ppl saying there was also drama in the side story and then kasdjkdsfdf have y'all never gone on vacation with other people? they've been together for so little, and jumped into moving together way too quick. going on vacation with someone else is always a mess. they're still getting to know each other and how the other works. i've gone on vacation with friends and good lord some big argument always happens lool living together with someone even for a week is HARD.
now they know one likes to schedule the whole trip and that the other one is actually more chill and doesn't like it. now they have to compromise. choose the trips that work better one way and then the other way. beach trips are chill, visiting a new country should be a bit more planned.
i get that the ending was a little rushed and some things were very vague but i personally didn't mind it, I never took this work too seriously (dude killed ppl and nothing ever happened about that so i never expected anything much to be resolved lol) and it was a fun read.
so yeah i don't think the side stories had more drama lol just silly relationship shit where they're still getting to know each other. and maybe i feel like this 'cause some other stories' have really dramatic fucked up side stories aksjhsdfhg
when we found out about the accident i just knew he had done it on purpose so he could visit him LOOOL obvious crazy dude shit
pls don't tell me the first tattoo you're gonna give him is a big one start with something small. i get it, you're feeling your creative juices flowing, but dude's never gotten a tattoo, start small.
I think he's planning on doing one those artsy tattoos that cover the whole back or something like that, but a begginer can do it if they have multiple sessions
yes that's what I fear. and like it's not impossible to be done, whether it's your first tattoo or not but I have uh...19 tattoos if i haven't forgotten any when i counted them lol and having to do something that big straight away, with multiple sessions sounds like hell on earth. hope there's no coloring either, like fucking ouch. but that's me. ppl have different pain scales! but I do think everyone should start out with something small to at least know how it feels on your skin.
and the more details and shadows the more it'll hurt and the longer it'll take. so yknow. give him something small first lol
Exactly this! I get that everyone has a different pain tolerance but also pain tolerance for tattoos is very different to other pain tolerance. It's always better to start small.
yeah! like the first time i got something small and it hurt!! it was small so I just had to power through it. but like it felt like my skin was getting ripped/cut. And even now depending on the place it'll still feel like my skin is being cut. i've had bigger tattoos and one with coloring, with multiple sessions and the pain was so fucking bad i literally was pulling on my hair to no be a bitch about it lol so someone doing it for the first time??? i'd tell them they're crazy for it
My first tattoo was my most painful tbh. I got a tiny line only dinosaur but the artist went way too deep (so yes, it has very uneven lines and blowouts) and that made it hurt so bad, even scaring my skin underneath. I have since done entire day sessions which haven't hurt as bad as this stupid dinosaur that took like 20 minutes!
oh my first one was also made by like a friend of my sister's at his house it's the word ohana with 3 birds for cheap. and yeah it doesn't look great either. after that i found a studio and i always get them done there way more expensive but i prefer it!!! but no the one that hurt the most was on the side of my calf, knee to ankle length, horrible pain and then it had coloring on top of it...ouch. but even the one that i got on the front of my thigh hurt a whole fucking lot. especially near the inner thigh and close to the top and also on the bottom towards the knee
but your first tattoo sounds awful sorry you had to go through all that pain.
That sounds like torture! Wow I currently only have forearm and calf tattoos. Apart from my first tattoo, the only ones that really hurt were my calfs, only because I had them done line art one, line art the other, colour the first and then colour the second all in one day. The first 10 minutes after the break felt like sandpaper fr
yeah! calf tats hurt! i bet you ended up bleeding a bit too, 'cause they massacre your skin when they're coloring it. gotta do the same spot a bunch
i can't believe it stops there. and now i need to wait for the officials to catch up i am going to fucking cry holy shit
i have a lot of thoughts about this but i'm just gonna say that yeah wonil fucked up their relationship. taking a step back was the wrong move, but he was young and dumb...and he's still young and dumb tbh. not saying it's all his fault ofc. but if he really loves hyunjae he should have stood his ground for their relationship, and actually talked all of it out with him. about hyunjae's fears and worries. taking a step back and acting like a fuckboy who doesn't actually care about him is just stupid.
and yeah hyunjae is the other part of the problem for pushing ppl away and giving up on the thought of ppl loving him and sticking with him which wonil basically perpetuated with his behavior. so when someone shows up and basically takes over his life, love bombs him, gives him everything he asks for and acts like he'll never leave him? yeah he holds onto it. even tho the dude broke his fucking leg and kidnapped him. it's a lot of manipulation. and the idea that he also had a leash on him made him feel like he had some power over him, therefore couldn't be manipulated (liiiiies). ok i wasn't gonna talk this much i'm gonna shut up just holy shit this is so good
It's funny I saw my past self in hyunjae but I still can't blame wonil, coz I feel he so far has ended up playing the role that hyunjae set up for wonil, he did love hyunjae and was open about it, and ultimatly had to distance himself because he thought thats what he needed. I assumed initially wonil was trying to end this for good as hyunjae wanted affection without the commitment with wonil. It's a huge responsibility for wonil or any partner to bear, to help overcome someone's trauma of their self worth.
I feel wonil was the reality he refuses to face because of his fears and he's happy to live his fantasy with jaehyuk instead no matter how messed up.
Anyway loved hearing new perspectives!! I can't stand the wait for the officals to catch up
oh 100% it is not right to completely blame wonil, because hyunjae basically set up a self-fulfilling prophecy by acting the way he did towards wonil (nobody loves me, everyone leaves me). he pushed him away and wonil took that as he had to stay away in an emotional way. and wonil isn't a mind reader, so he doesn't know what hyunjae truly wants. and that's what i meant with wonil failing from the beginning, he gave up on having anything meaningful (which obviously came from hyunjae's actions) instead of actually having conversations and trying to make it work between them.
and yeah the conversations could've come from hyunjae as well, i'm not saying otherwise. but he's obviously traumatized by his past experiences. they both fucked up the relationship. but wonil saw that hyunjae was lonely and even now knowing where wonil comes from the whole "you want to pretend to be lovers again?" hurt me like fuck bro. he doesn't want to pretend he wants it, he just doesn't think you want it.
yes wonil should've made a clean break. since he didn't bother communicating, he should've just taken a step back, probably would've been the best for the both. and i do agree no one should have to take on someone else's traumas! but if you love the person and want to be with them, you need to at least make an effort to understand why and see if the other person actually wants to get better and heal. it's a mess!! but i do think it's a lil silly of wonil saying hyunjae trained him to become how he is, he himself put up that façade because that's what he thought hyunjae wanted. because he put hyunjae's wants and needs (what he perceived as his wants and needs actually) above his own well being :(
AND YES!! that's literally it, that's what hyunjae's story was from the beginning, reality vs fantasy. real vs fake. and running away from what hurts him. he feels safe and loved in that fantasy...but only surface wise. because he's actually very anxious, unsure and afraid when he stops to think about it all. he's deluding himself, trying to convince himself because he's scared of being rejected and abandoned by wonil and reality.
anyway I'M SO SORRY FOR THE HUGE REPLY AHHHHHHHHHH i just love talking about shit like this. and it's always so cool to be able to talk about stories with someone else!! thank you!
SORRYY your reply got buried under all the manga notifs!!! I love talking about manhwas too thanks for yr reply I liked hearing ur perspective!
I agree with you for the most part, but I do think so far hyunjae himself doesn't know wat he needs/wants, he's troubled and hence says he wants to try to see the ended with his kidnapper, wonil steers in the right direction but always ends up in the wrong track so far.
"you want to pretend to be lovers again?" Was truly a sucker punch with hyunjae thinking he's falling out of love to wonil feeling helpless because he doesn't want to play pretend.
(But i believe a therapy session or two would've done these two a whole lot of good)
Nevertheless loved these fucked up little blorbos I'm really curious as to how it'll play out....
no problem haha that happens!!
it's def interesting how obsessed he is about how their story is going to end, he's holding onto hope they'll be happily ever after as if it really is disney fairytale. and at the same time one of the reasons he can't bear to let go is his abandonment issues. he hates the thought of being abandoned, so the idea that he'd abandon someone else instead? someone who "needs" him just as much he needs them? it's impossible. and also the anxiety and gaslighting makes it hard to get away.
wonil is a fucking mess and keeps fucking it up, because he's also not ok poor dude is fucked up. and he fails because he simply keeps pulling away because that's what he thinks hyunjae wants.
right??? that shit hurt and he didn't say it to me akjskddfg how a sentence changes meaning depending on the POV huh
one or two???? they need years of therapy sessions LOL
yessss gotta love me some fucked up little blorbos
says the guy who raped him to get a reaction out of him and exert control over him. bro you need help.
everyone around me got hurt but my brother didn't....it's so weird...LIKE COME ON!!! i get why he doesn't realize it, but if someone heard that story the first thing that'd come to mind would be "oh honey...he's hurting the ppl...sorry to tell you but he's a bad person."
he killed someone why are you saying he's not a bad person??? an accident my ass. and the way he treats you isn't normal either. you're scared of him!! ahhhhhhhhh
not me just rolling my eyes. ugh again? like you said it yourself that you don't want him, stop going along with his BS you're only hurting yourself. and you're basically cheating on someone as you go along with it too.
imagine beefing with a child 'cause you're jealous aljkdfjdf