“this manga looks great!”
“can’t wait to read another great thriller!” i
“yuna(yura?) is a fucking cunt”
“why do i want to protect yoseob...”
“why is she still going after jaeha”
“hE CLEARLY TOLD YOU HES A PSYCHO AND NOW YOURE GOING AFTER HIM FOR REAL?? FOR REAL????”
“why am i reading this pain”
“i still hate that chick”
“why am i crying?”
“WHY WHYWHYWHYWHHHYYYY”
“look up agonizing pain and this webtoon will pop up”
“uuuggghhhh still hate the chick”
Still hate her too. She treated Jaeha like cr@p then has the audacity to whine because he didn't tell her something when she should have just stayed out of things in the first place. And the reason she treated him like cr@p was entirely because of her petty selfishness, nothing more. Jaeha's friend was cr@p at the beginning but he actually had character development unlike that chick.
omg thank you!!!! i could literally go on all day ranting about her, i hate her character so much. i’ve never seen a character development where you hate them even more after they’ve changed lmao
You're welcome! Not many people agree with us I think. So yeah I'm happy to see someone agreeing with me too! Yeah Yura has her issues but she's a hypocrite. She treats people who have some similarities to her bullies kindly but treats Jaeha who has nothing in common with them like sh!t. Ugh can't stand her!
i understand why..i mean she did have half her face ripped off. but she still went after the kid even though yoseob threatened and scared her and the other guy definitely warned her he was a psycho, like?? i hate victim blaming but damn dude can she be any dumber??
it’s like two people warning you not to go to someone’s house bc he’s a rapist then being shocked when you get raped after going???
never mind i’m definitely victim blaming but for the first time i am not sorry lol
She had half her face ripped off but that wasn't Jaeha's fault and he wasn't anything like the people who hurt her in the past.
But you are refreshing! I know most people think I would go ballistic after reading the part about victim blaming but those who do think that are missing some very important parts of my points:
1. I only care if someone likes or does something that could be considered wrong *as long as they neither acknowledge the behavior is wrong nor typically avoid that behavior otherwise*. Imo, and what I find refreshing, is the fact you're doing exactly the opposite of that.
2. There is a manga by an author who is called Fukai Youki (I believe) who wrote a BL story about a seme who was sexually assaulted by the uke when he was young. The seme then r@pes the uke. Do I feel one iota of sympathy for the uke? You can call me cold-hearted all you want but, nope, I don't (I'm just pointing out to those who draw those erroneous conclusions about me that, even if I'm basing things on the motives/purposes/goals of the person doing the act, it doesn't mean I can't hate the person it's being done TO, IF very strict criteria are fulfilled).
Thank you!! I’m glad someone on this site understands different opinions
But Yeah, right? I hate to say it, but I love shit like that. I’m not saying every character deserves such an extreme example of “you get what you deserve”, but at the same time, if a situation comes up like the one we’re talking about, then I absolutely won’t feel bad for them. If you aren’t willing to change, then there’s repercussions, and usually brutal ones too, in Yaoi.
I’ve made a few comments that have gotten me in trouble before about was it rape/consent/dubcon and its always the same thing. That I’m a victim blamer
But I guess in a way I am, bc to them he/she is a victim but to me, they’re also not in some ways.
Complicated, touchy subject amiright lol
Very complicated (but the ones who argue that we should sympathize with anyone to whom evil actions are perpetrated against are often the ones who also argue that reasons justify everything). I tend to compartmentalize things though. Because while I can see an action as wrong I don't think it means I have to sympathize with the person experiencing it. To me the evilness of an action (action being differentiated from behavior here: where action is anything that involves more than one party) is separate from the evilness of the person.
I completely agree. That’s why I think this genre is so hard, because there’s a lot of horrific things that they gloss over in stories that we’re now immune to, and even expect it. But if you voice your opinion that goes against everyone else’s then you’re a terrible person.
Anyways going back to the point, yaoi has kind of opened the reader’s eyes to very different justifications and actions, one’s that you would’ve thought were unjustifiable to being arguably fair. It’s kind of crazy, but that’s what I love about it.
Unfortunately a lot of readers expect us to have a black and white perspective of right/wrong and that’s impossible when you start reading in this genre.
And let’s be real....THAT’S WHAT MAKES IT SOOOO GOOODDD
Just to clarify my last post for anyone else who might decide to join your thread: for the people I was referring to in the first point I made in that particular comment, they do the opposite of what I do. By that I mean they conflate the evilness of a person with the evilness of their actions so if the person has 'reasons' to be evil to these people the evil person and their actions are similarly justified whether the evil person is the victim or the bully. And yes, just to be VERY clear here, I even separate the evilness of a bully from their actions.
In response to your last post Jimin, I am very argumentative so I'm 100% in agreement as well!
Please don’t call me Jimin I do not deserve such a title
Omg are we friends now bc let’s be friends
The word bra makes me uncomfortable (*coughpunnotintendedcough*), for personal reasons. So can I call you Jb then and confirm that we are friends that way? ✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧
*Begging with cute eyes*
Sorry I’m a huge BTS fan so being called jimin is kyaaaa
either way we are friends now pls call me JB
Cool! Followed you back too!
i’m halfway through and this bitch(his “best friend”) GOTS TO GOOOOO
i reread the ending a lot, like a lot a lot, and every damn time I CRYYYYY
it’s a fact that this manga will make you sob so hard until you’re a husk
TOP 100 DATE SPOTS IN HEAVEN
idk why people are calling the hotel scene rape, it’s more like barely dubcon
pretty sure jin has now been taken to the dark side of light sm
Sorry... Supposedly thumb up..
Oh em geeeeeee
keep holding a grudge...you know it’ll only lead to your KO mf
that tattoo either sets me off or turns me off, there is no in between