I’m actually kinda mad bc why did it work? Like why is Oushi going to be friends with him? Like Itsuomi doesn’t respect his boundaries at all to the point of damn near harassment but now it’s fine because he pushed hard enough?!?! He already had to deal with horrible friends and now he has another. He can have friends who want the best for him and also respect his boundaries and he doesn’t. Like he should have just kept walking it’s so ughhh especially bc he respects the FL boundaries by not pushing his feeling on to her. I hope they give him space and don’t just shove girl with dog in his face and give him time with the ONLY PERSON who respects his boundaries aka the guy with the glasses.
He wasnt pushing it that badly. “Harrasment” is kinda exaggerating here man..
He was pushing it a lot actually. Harassment is being dramatic I admit but basically at every step Oushi would be saying no and they played it for laughs like genuinely just leave him alone. He wasn’t even being a tsundere. He just didn’t like him and that wasn’t respected.
He didnt like him simply because a random guy took his first love so quick before he could make a move. Nothing more and nothing less. He hated him for whichever bad idea he made up that he is a guy not worth for the girl. And oushi knew that. So he just pushed buttons for him to realize nah he isnt that of an ass he made him up to be. Basically itsuomi had the thought process of this dude gotta chill out and better hate me for a valid reason than trying to break me and my girlfriend apart for something childish
Also we cant forget how pushy pushi was when he tried to even kissed her when he knew damn well shes taken. THAT is pushy and harrasment. Especially when she clearly was uncomfortable
Yes and we can acknowledge the fact that oushi was pushy in that moment while also acknowledging the fact that itsuomi is also pushy in the moments he shares with Oushi. Who cares what the reason was, Oushi’s boundaries were being disrespected. He just wanted to be left alone at some point and he wouldn’t be granted that dignity. The whole conversion could have been done while having respect for Oushi but it wasn’t.
And the whole reason why this upsets me as much as it does is because they go out of the way to explain why he was wrong for doing that to her. Nyjah out of the way to explain that he is wrong for pushing his emotions onto her and that he should just move on however they do nothing to discourage the fact that he didn’t want anything to do with him in the first place. And they still don’t do anything about it and now he’s rewarded for his constant disrespect of boundaries.
Also I don’t expect a lot of people to agree because I don’t think a lot of people have originally liked him when this was going on and they were head over heels in love with the ML but I don’t think it makes it any less the truth.
hello ?? harassment is so so OA. oushi was not left with no choice. itsuomi was “pushy” but oushi was absolutely capable of you know, NOT going through any of the things he was “forced” to?
and btw no, oushi was never “respectful” of yuki’s boundaries. he just hid his romantic feelings. that’s got nothing to do with her boundaries. these chapters literally happened to give closure and development (which were VERY much needed) to oushi’s character. like it or not, itsuomi and yuki and his so called “horrible” friends were the one to push him to change for the better. sometimes that’s needed.
don’t baby oushi. he is fully able to leave his friends and leave itsuomi hanging.
That’s not why his friends are horrible. Do you not remember the reason why they there? they’re there to break up Yuki and Itsuomi. Like entire time instead of being, maybe you should we were like no let’s break them up for you king like that’s crazy like and toxic you can help someone change without over pushing on their boundaries and Itsuomi specifically didn’t. He didn’t respect them at all. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have gotten closure. He just shouldn’t have to be friends with someone disrespectful of his boundaries. It’s not babying to call out toxic behavior. It’s babying to accept that behavior simply because you like the character. I feel like you don’t understand I’m calling out the writing. Like yeah he is able to theoretically, but at the same time, his action are whatever the writer wants him to do and for a very realistic manga this is incredibly disappointing.
i feel like you’re over inflating everything. oushi’s friends were questionable at best. itsuomi was never toxic, and oushi (like someone else alr said) wasn’t even SERIOUSLY putting up boundaries, everyone and their mom knew oushi only “hated” itsuomi because he felt like he “stole” yuki from him.
you say it’s disappointing for a realistic manga as if people aren’t like this irl?? especially when the characters are only in college. in the real world, nothing is ever cutthroat black or white. even yuki says that oushi is flawed but STILL kind, and him appreciating his friends, finally moving on from yuki, and developing a friendship with itsuomi is literally proof of that. oushi understood that itsuomi was only ever pushy with him because he needed it. i can think of a hundred real life scenarios where the same has happened.
boundaries aren’t just take take take, and it’s not just people accommodating what you want. considering oushi’s past behavior i think it’s only fair he gets his boundaries “pushed” (if you really think so)
He can move on from his feelings and not develop a friendship with him. He doesn’t need to develop a friendship with him. He doesn’t even need to have to like him. He just didn’t have to hate him anymore. it’s just extremely weird to see someone constantly pushing that boundary and no repercussions come from it. It leaves an extremely bad taste amount. I think it’s fine if others disagree or others simply don’t care because it’s Subjective.
you’re right boundaries aren’t only take, however, that’s what itsuomi has been doing with Oushi. To call it a friendship would be exaggerating.
In this situation to be fair to Itsuomi Oushi is the one who invited him out. He could’ve gotten closure without Itsuomi there. A basic meetup with Yuki at the park or over some tea would’ve been enough. Oushi says one thing but he keeps contacting the guy and engaging with him.
Being perfectly honest, I calmed the fuck down and took a minute to breathe and I don’t 100% feel the same anymore. I do think you bring up an interesting point now where he really didn’t need to invite him in this case, but I do think it was an act of Goodwill to fine with their relationship. I don’t think that necessarily validate everything Itsuomi was doing but I do think it speaks to the growth of Oushi.
I already know I’m coming in with a controversial opinion, but I really liked the sister because I really liked how it showed that none of the people she thought supported her bill had her back like her twin brother finds out she dies. He doesn’t even react he does not care about her Person who genuinely cared about her was her father and the servant. And I like how just like with the main character the sister doesn’t really take the fathers regrets But allows him to be a better person, but it has to be without her because she’s being sent away to God knows where. I really love the end. Her personality is I made my bed. I will lie in it and she does. I don’t like the fact that her lover became a child and the fact that he’s the only person around, but I like the fact that I can picture her with the song I guess by Mitski. I genuinely believe she should’ve showed up in at least one side story, even if it was for a panel and I understand in the original novel she dies. I think her dying was insanely stupid because there’s so much more to say with her living. So many bill stories don’t really have a bill in this. She is a perfect film in this and I can totally see her getting a story maybe move away from her lover being a child and maybe her loving him like a child or moving on and marry someone else like there’s a lot of possibilities that you can go with exiled Child and I’m glad that she is finally able to remove herself from her family and I hope one day she’s able to have a conversation with her dad and only her dad.
What do you mean they have long way to go? What do you mean the actual side couple was the villains what is going on? You’re going to make me crash out like WHAT
I know people are mad at her but it’s very obvious she’s projecting the village’s views on to him and is doing this to help him like how he helped her and is going to learn that he doesn’t need her help but her support instead
Still, if the two really loves each other, then she must not force them to break apart, "not normal" she says. Who knows if the people will react positively or negatively. She's interfering and forcing Kwon to date a girl when she knows damn well he loves Sungho. The most kindest thing she can do in the situation is to keep quiet and wait for the perfect time when Sungho and Kwon are ready to announce their relationship.
I think the clingy possessive friend would be a fun second couple, especially if he becomes a bottom. There’s like 10 other guys at that gym. I know we can make something happen let’s put our brains together.
doesn't sound bad.. someone gotta crush his smug face
youre on to something.. i would very much love to see that lol
Which one? The brown haired guy who showed up at the ring buying? I actually like that guy, he just wants to be friends with Geon.
I need him to find a man who humbles him (≧∀≦)
no no, theyre talking about the new guy whos living in ml's house
It’s so funny how gay this family is, and how the sun always taste. The father like I hope his son hates him forever simply because I think it’s the best thing for him so that he never becomes like his father. I am kind of sad that the hot DILF Is alone at the end I really don’t know what happened to him other than him being alone like the death of his heir but he’s a side character so ultimately, I don’t even know if the creator knows about his fate
I still think it’s so interesting no matter how much the witches are like “at the end of the day we’re just humans with human hearts” their humanity must always be questioned because of the pact. Even the wises who are supposed to represent the borderline, try to find ways to deviate from the past, but even they must be questioned when it comes to their humanity because at the end of the day, they will never truly cross the line that’s in the sand and there is nothing non magics can do about it but suffer. In the fight between the brimmed hats and the pointed hats the only real losers will be those who can’t do magic specifically due to the magic cops because they can fight without magic and they can fight with magic but non-magics can’t do the same. Like Custas said they are in a fight against fate and due to that they will never truly be on the other level of mages.
I genuinely think there needs to be another character like The King, who keeps trying to cross that line due to his pure heart and true desire of wanting to protect those who can’t protect themselves. They need to do something to even the playing field because taking away the knowledge of medicine isn’t the same of taking away the knowledge of magic especially in the middle age setting where science isn’t where it’s at now. Like if they were granted the ability to do life-saving surgery, but our only allowed to do such surgery on those who don’t know magic like if they’re able to heal those who have become paralyzed, but can’t heal the wise in teaching.
Please, please please get your happy ending king please please please like if he doesn’t get a happy ending, I’m gonna crash out like what more do you want from him?!?!?
She needs an actual man to be her boyfriend one who can meet her where she’s at instead of someone who she hast to wait for like he’s genuinely so pathetic. It makes me sad. Like what do you mean? You just started on self discovery journey like a month ago. What is wrong with you? Don’t take him back, girl raise the bar for yourself.
Everyone is like “girl go watch your granny” but like how is she supposed to know she was going to have a dementia episode?!? And she already came to the conclusion of it’s wrong like she’s clearly working through something give her a minute to breathe
Buddy, if granny got a bracelet, she's not meant to be left unsupervised.
And yet anyone who has had actually had to take care of an elderly person with dementia knows that, sometimes, this happens because people are. What? Humans and not, what? Machines. It's a lot to handle on one's own. Which is why it's always important for people in communities to look out for each other.
Exactly like clearly she thought her Grandma was getting better because of realization that that simply isn’t true, would’ve been too hard on a lot of emotions going on which is why it’s nice that they are leaning on their community
Dementia is not an episode, it is a debilitating disease, in which a person loses memories permanently. If she is wearing a bracelet, it means every single person of her family is aware of it.