He was actually so nice to that guy like other stories would have killed him right there but he was like I will talk with you but you HAVE to stay calm like that’s fair. I love so far how even though we have seen a little about the uncle that I already feel like he’s much better then the father.
So I think the father of Megu is Shoji but she knew Sentarou would be the best father out of all of them and that he would be mad at her but happily be the father even if he knew he wasn’t connected by blood but I don’t think she would have even told him
I don’t think you guys understand. Their relationship barely changed. We don’t get any information on their relationship in the afterword like guys I’m crashing out. Like, yeah they trust each other more but end the relationship between the two has not changed in a meaningful way like they act the exact same like at this point I think I don’t even think they were the C couple. Like every time something with them comes out I have hope and then that hope gets smaller like I’m trying to gaslight myself into thinking this means that they will definitely be a side story about them because there’s so many places where it can go but .
I'm suffering from second couple syndrome and your comment is making me suffer even more. Wish there was clear ending for them. I'm rooting for them bro, hope author will feed us with
their side story .
Literally I was just sitting here and then I had that realization and I was like no way I don’t even need a clear ending. I just need a hopeful one but instead, we get the boss throwing up like my god
I'm still in the beginning chapters and please wdym by boss throwing up?? Sweetie ! I'm literally here for the 2nd couple fuck I'm suffering
So Taeyang was in love with him first right? Or was he just being extremely nosy? They’re not giving as long as time to develop their relationship, but like the fact that there was really no buildup is crazy
I love the idea of Taeyang being at love first and Hyesung catching feelings later on.
I feel like the side chapter with Jiyhun was cruel. It’s very obvious that even though five years has passed he is still “in love” with chiwoo when it could have been left at that. Having that side story where they stay together but even then it’s horrible is insanely cruel. Especially making it clear that he is insanely suicidal after everything that when down. Not saying you should be forgiven or even allowed back in his life because I think that was good. I think him saying “ i’m not gonna give you a hug as a friend because we are not friends” is good. However, I’m having the character who was being abused by his father who internalized how his father acted killing him/being insanely suicidal is a good ending like I’m sorry but wtf? Even the way the original story resolves with him being sent away to America without his brother, his only support system, was terrible. Now he’s engaged most likely to a woman he doesn’t love due to being in charge of his family’s company and like that’s insanely hopeless. He went from a child who was being beaten every day to an abuser to an actively suicidal man and I’m supposed to be happy about this? Mmm yeah. ok.
His rich and can afford a therapist and what’s stopping him from getting a job and breaking away from his father? He can be an adult choose his own spouse, find his own support system. You’re acting like his father is holding him hostage from breaking away and choosing his own path.
So like That doesn’t dress like half my points, but if I address yours, I would say abuse is complicated especially recovering from abuse and he is rich and he can’t afford a therapist, but that pathway isn’t linear like I don’t think downplay abuse is beneficial to anyone. He’s an adult right but who really knows how active the father is in the company which we don’t know because we don’t really have information on him. Also, I was talking about when he was being sent to America when he was sent to America. He didn’t have a support system. You can’t just find a support system. You have to find people and it takes a while to build that support system. You’re making long and complicated processes down easy when they’re not. Of course he can find a spouse but you know how hard it is to find a spouse like are you crazy? and that still doesn’t address the point that he’s like actively suicidal like what are you honestly talking about?
DEADASS like get help fr
This was really good and I’m glad that the end went into his relationship with the parents however, I wish there was a conclusion to the story more from the ex’s side of things because he was clearly willing to dump the girls he was sleeping with to get back with him and even though he is sleeping with women, I believe it when he says he is gay but he desire is fitting in more then being true to his sexuality it’s very interesting and I wish we at least got one chapter from him
Everyone is like “girl go watch your granny” but like how is she supposed to know she was going to have a dementia episode?!? And she already came to the conclusion of it’s wrong like she’s clearly working through something give her a minute to breathe
Buddy, if granny got a bracelet, she's not meant to be left unsupervised.
And yet anyone who has had actually had to take care of an elderly person with dementia knows that, sometimes, this happens because people are. What? Humans and not, what? Machines. It's a lot to handle on one's own. Which is why it's always important for people in communities to look out for each other.
Exactly like clearly she thought her Grandma was getting better because of realization that that simply isn’t true, would’ve been too hard on a lot of emotions going on which is why it’s nice that they are leaning on their community
Dementia is not an episode, it is a debilitating disease, in which a person loses memories permanently. If she is wearing a bracelet, it means every single person of her family is aware of it.
I’m actually kinda mad bc why did it work? Like why is Oushi going to be friends with him? Like Itsuomi doesn’t respect his boundaries at all to the point of damn near harassment but now it’s fine because he pushed hard enough?!?! He already had to deal with horrible friends and now he has another. He can have friends who want the best for him and also respect his boundaries and he doesn’t. Like he should have just kept walking it’s so ughhh especially bc he respects the FL boundaries by not pushing his feeling on to her. I hope they give him space and don’t just shove girl with dog in his face and give him time with the ONLY PERSON who respects his boundaries aka the guy with the glasses.
He wasnt pushing it that badly. “Harrasment” is kinda exaggerating here man..
He was pushing it a lot actually. Harassment is being dramatic I admit but basically at every step Oushi would be saying no and they played it for laughs like genuinely just leave him alone. He wasn’t even being a tsundere. He just didn’t like him and that wasn’t respected.
He didnt like him simply because a random guy took his first love so quick before he could make a move. Nothing more and nothing less. He hated him for whichever bad idea he made up that he is a guy not worth for the girl. And oushi knew that. So he just pushed buttons for him to realize nah he isnt that of an ass he made him up to be. Basically itsuomi had the thought process of this dude gotta chill out and better hate me for a valid reason than trying to break me and my girlfriend apart for something childish
Also we cant forget how pushy pushi was when he tried to even kissed her when he knew damn well shes taken. THAT is pushy and harrasment. Especially when she clearly was uncomfortable
Yes and we can acknowledge the fact that oushi was pushy in that moment while also acknowledging the fact that itsuomi is also pushy in the moments he shares with Oushi. Who cares what the reason was, Oushi’s boundaries were being disrespected. He just wanted to be left alone at some point and he wouldn’t be granted that dignity. The whole conversion could have been done while having respect for Oushi but it wasn’t.
And the whole reason why this upsets me as much as it does is because they go out of the way to explain why he was wrong for doing that to her. Nyjah out of the way to explain that he is wrong for pushing his emotions onto her and that he should just move on however they do nothing to discourage the fact that he didn’t want anything to do with him in the first place. And they still don’t do anything about it and now he’s rewarded for his constant disrespect of boundaries.
Also I don’t expect a lot of people to agree because I don’t think a lot of people have originally liked him when this was going on and they were head over heels in love with the ML but I don’t think it makes it any less the truth.
hello ?? harassment is so so OA. oushi was not left with no choice. itsuomi was “pushy” but oushi was absolutely capable of you know, NOT going through any of the things he was “forced” to?
and btw no, oushi was never “respectful” of yuki’s boundaries. he just hid his romantic feelings. that’s got nothing to do with her boundaries. these chapters literally happened to give closure and development (which were VERY much needed) to oushi’s character. like it or not, itsuomi and yuki and his so called “horrible” friends were the one to push him to change for the better. sometimes that’s needed.
don’t baby oushi. he is fully able to leave his friends and leave itsuomi hanging.
That’s not why his friends are horrible. Do you not remember the reason why they there? they’re there to break up Yuki and Itsuomi. Like entire time instead of being, maybe you should we were like no let’s break them up for you king like that’s crazy like and toxic you can help someone change without over pushing on their boundaries and Itsuomi specifically didn’t. He didn’t respect them at all. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have gotten closure. He just shouldn’t have to be friends with someone disrespectful of his boundaries. It’s not babying to call out toxic behavior. It’s babying to accept that behavior simply because you like the character. I feel like you don’t understand I’m calling out the writing. Like yeah he is able to theoretically, but at the same time, his action are whatever the writer wants him to do and for a very realistic manga this is incredibly disappointing.
i feel like you’re over inflating everything. oushi’s friends were questionable at best. itsuomi was never toxic, and oushi (like someone else alr said) wasn’t even SERIOUSLY putting up boundaries, everyone and their mom knew oushi only “hated” itsuomi because he felt like he “stole” yuki from him.
you say it’s disappointing for a realistic manga as if people aren’t like this irl?? especially when the characters are only in college. in the real world, nothing is ever cutthroat black or white. even yuki says that oushi is flawed but STILL kind, and him appreciating his friends, finally moving on from yuki, and developing a friendship with itsuomi is literally proof of that. oushi understood that itsuomi was only ever pushy with him because he needed it. i can think of a hundred real life scenarios where the same has happened.
boundaries aren’t just take take take, and it’s not just people accommodating what you want. considering oushi’s past behavior i think it’s only fair he gets his boundaries “pushed” (if you really think so)
He can move on from his feelings and not develop a friendship with him. He doesn’t need to develop a friendship with him. He doesn’t even need to have to like him. He just didn’t have to hate him anymore. it’s just extremely weird to see someone constantly pushing that boundary and no repercussions come from it. It leaves an extremely bad taste amount. I think it’s fine if others disagree or others simply don’t care because it’s Subjective.
you’re right boundaries aren’t only take, however, that’s what itsuomi has been doing with Oushi. To call it a friendship would be exaggerating.
In this situation to be fair to Itsuomi Oushi is the one who invited him out. He could’ve gotten closure without Itsuomi there. A basic meetup with Yuki at the park or over some tea would’ve been enough. Oushi says one thing but he keeps contacting the guy and engaging with him.
Being perfectly honest, I calmed the fuck down and took a minute to breathe and I don’t 100% feel the same anymore. I do think you bring up an interesting point now where he really didn’t need to invite him in this case, but I do think it was an act of Goodwill to fine with their relationship. I don’t think that necessarily validate everything Itsuomi was doing but I do think it speaks to the growth of Oushi.
I already know I’m coming in with a controversial opinion, but I really liked the sister because I really liked how it showed that none of the people she thought supported her bill had her back like her twin brother finds out she dies. He doesn’t even react he does not care about her Person who genuinely cared about her was her father and the servant. And I like how just like with the main character the sister doesn’t really take the fathers regrets But allows him to be a better person, but it has to be without her because she’s being sent away to God knows where. I really love the end. Her personality is I made my bed. I will lie in it and she does. I don’t like the fact that her lover became a child and the fact that he’s the only person around, but I like the fact that I can picture her with the song I guess by Mitski. I genuinely believe she should’ve showed up in at least one side story, even if it was for a panel and I understand in the original novel she dies. I think her dying was insanely stupid because there’s so much more to say with her living. So many bill stories don’t really have a bill in this. She is a perfect film in this and I can totally see her getting a story maybe move away from her lover being a child and maybe her loving him like a child or moving on and marry someone else like there’s a lot of possibilities that you can go with exiled Child and I’m glad that she is finally able to remove herself from her family and I hope one day she’s able to have a conversation with her dad and only her dad.
I actually don’t hate the brother or his motivations. By the Brother, I’m referring to the new antagonist or whatever not the main character. Him panicking and saying, “I love her because I used to teach her” is clearly trying to think on his feet right. Him and a couple other people have came to the conclusion They can’t rely on the aristocracy to always care for them because of situations around them and to be fair he’s kind of right because the region he lives in is one who is ultimately covered by a man who cares not for people, but for the law. Like he made it very clear if any of his children cross the law, he will deal with them in a swift and decisive way, and he had that done before. He is also worrying about his place in the system. His family is middle management, but if anything, they are lower management like they do not have the power. I think people are assuming them. Like they have more power than other people of the land, but out of everyone we seen so far, they have the least power. If he marries into this family, he will be able to protect him his sister and their descendants. If his sister marries into the family, she won’t be able to do the same. Where is he can extend the protection to her she can’t do the same for him so ultimately he will be in a worse predicament if he particularly doesn’t marry into this family. And if he doesn’t thing that is applicable is him turning down the entire system, which ultimately won’t end well because the one who controls the system isn’t even being touched yeah his family members might die, but him and his wife are fine.
The situation is a lose-lose for him but he also cannot rely on the empathy of people who have shown not to be empathetic towards him. Because it’s not like when he started speaking, they tried to find an end for the situation. They just shut it down. If he was smarter, he would’ve tried to come in the middle of his sister‘s relationship. However, his father is probably not gonna care because at least one of his children is succeeding. There is genuinely nothing he can do and no way he can get out of his situation and I will be surprised if it doesn’t end in his death or him going to jail and being erased and his sister not caring.
Ig but he still gives me the ick since he was a grown ass adult trying to force a marriage on a child who told him no multiple times yet he still tried to force it...