moody_bish May 22, 2020 8:21 pm

This is it. This is the vision of the future. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Two men just flirting like the typical binary couple. Ordinary men who is not burdened by their sex but simply by their love. Ah, this is pure bliss.

The power of "ordinariness" and "normality". ┗( T﹏T )┛

Let me savor this reality (▰˘◡˘▰)

moody_bish May 22, 2020 3:40 pm

Still at ch18 but I'm a little peeved at how the scars just appear when it is convenient. Theyre not subtle like the sort you discover then interpret or think about. Especially when Wooyeon suddenly had one when he was busted for tricking Junwoo.

I mean, look at Wooyeon's wrist at the photos about the manga. The scar is on his left wrist when they were on the tub but he's clean on chapters before it. It kinda plays off as an after thought concept.

    moody_bish May 22, 2020 3:58 pm

    At ch26:

    I kept frowning at how bitter the environment is in this manhwa. Junwoo is basically forced to be a shut-in rather than someone who chooses himself to be isolated. He is spoiled but he was used by his classmates. He was orphaned but was made out to be someone deserving of it. The whole environment has basically designed itself to make Junwoo live at home.

    Also, I dont understand why Junwoo and Wooyeon makes it as if Junwoo isnt working. He is basically a financially stable shut in who takes commissions as a DESIGNER. His artistic skills are basically the point of his job but Wooyeon makes it out to be more of the exhibit type of wasted talent (although this one would be a nice ADDITION).

    And... Idk alright, but their sex life doesnt match their sober thoughts of "like", "never leave me", "pity", "attachment". This is why I'm frustrated by some of the yaoi stories I've read. Like, don't add details on the sex which wont be acknowledge when their sober then.

    moody_bish May 22, 2020 4:12 pm
    At ch26:I kept frowning at how bitter the environment is in this manhwa. Junwoo is basically forced to be a shut-in rather than someone who chooses himself to be isolated. He is spoiled but he was used by his c... moody_bish

    At ch27:

    Wow, just one chapter after and I'm made to affirm my thoughts about Wooyeon. He really does have this insensitive and hypocritical personality. He doesn't want Junwoo sad? Lol, he's imposing his thoughts on Junwoo while ignoring the "Junwoo's selfishness he had to endure". The more I read, the more I'm thinking that though Junwoo has shut himself in, these pretentious bitches aren't the help he needs. The girl was right, sincerity will pull Junwoo out of the house and not their goody-two-shoes attempts. Wooyeon had issues of his own and Hanbit thought that it was a good idea to make them live together. Like, seriously? This is not about two broken people trying to help each other. This is a hypocrital move to make one broken person feel good about himself while he tries to force the other broken person to just move on with his life.

    Also, can Wooyeon really tell Junwoo to socialize when he himself pulls away and get called "gloomy, guarded, weird". Junwoo was right, "you hypocrite." I feel bad for him for having high hopes for Wooyeon's affections

    moody_bish May 22, 2020 4:37 pm
    At ch27:Wow, just one chapter after and I'm made to affirm my thoughts about Wooyeon. He really does have this insensitive and hypocritical personality. He doesn't want Junwoo sad? Lol, he's imposing his though... moody_bish

    Ch31:

    Well isnt that wishy washy. What, 5 years of justified misery and agony of being looked down... Ah, never mind. This is tragic really. This boy needed medicines and therapy sessions, but the environment he lives in just imposes an ideal "you have to overcome it" advices. Hey, Hanbit. Just because your mother died due to depression you could impose your way in to Junwoo with that fear of losing someone because of depression.

    Did Junwoo really interpret Wooyeon's advice? Pfft. Fuck no. The bitch was a hypocrite, ignoring Junwoo's illness with ideal advices he imposes on him. What, did he think sex was enough? Did he think he can confront Junwoo's breakdown when he can't handle his own fears? Fuck you.

    For sure, thanks for trying to help Junwoo but you're just adding on to his guilt everytime you ignore the root of his depression and show him that he has somehow insulted you. Did you ever really listen to him? Fuck no. If you did, you wouldnt be playing house with him and feeding him advices that just slaps him in the face.

    Seriously. Socialize? It's fucking people who made him that way. Try something new? He can't even confront the very guilt that weighs him down. All you're doing is telling him RUN AWAY from his problem and PRETEND that everything will be okay.

    God. What a tragic plot.

    moody_bish May 22, 2020 5:06 pm
    Ch31:Well isnt that wishy washy. What, 5 years of justified misery and agony of being looked down... Ah, never mind. This is tragic really. This boy needed medicines and therapy sessions, but the environment he... moody_bish

    35:

    Haaaa.... Seriously... Look, I love the concept and it raises some sort of mental illness awareness. And I'm just triggered at how the plot is charted out of convenience. I don't want to discredit the author cause the art and concept is fire. This is just my response to the execution of the plot and how the characters play it out.

    First, Junwoo is suicidal and will have the tendency to self inflict pain. If Wooyeon is indeed sensitive to blood or suffering, then he shouldnt have been the hikikomori Hanbit went to. The other girl was a Hikikomori herself and was more confrontive about it than Wooyeon. Is it because it's BL? And the advice on how sincerity can pull Junwoo out of his house came from that girl, she's by far more effective.

    Second, Wooyeon's suffering is made clear only to make Junwoo second guess himself. However, i'm glad that Junwoo is aware that Wooyeon is being a hypocrite. But why is Junwoo retracting it just because Wooyeon is being more obvious about his own issues? What, he's supposed to feel bad for not understanding Wooyeon when it was Wooyeon imposing himself on Junwoo? Like, really?

    Third, my views on Hanbit doesn't change. His actions are merely out of obligation. Does he ever really look at Junwoo or is simply weighed by the fact that he couldnt help his mother when she was reaching out to them? And now apparently he is sick, which makes his purpose more urgent. Which is why he's really is handing over Junwoo to Wooyeon to take care of as some sort of "dying wish".

    All things considered, i like that I'm having strong emotions for this story because it means that it has an impact. If I am able to just scroll through this, then why the hell am I reading right? I'm just hoping I get the good kind of kick out of this. Ive had held strong emotions for this other "well-loved" manhwa but it wasn't the good kind of conclusion.

    moody_bish May 22, 2020 5:27 pm
    35:Haaaa.... Seriously... Look, I love the concept and it raises some sort of mental illness awareness. And I'm just triggered at how the plot is charted out of convenience. I don't want to discredit the author... moody_bish

    At 41:

    Grief and Guilt are different. I dont want to compare but Junwoo is right when he said that Wooyeon wouldn't understand nor will they ever be at the same page. Wooyeon is wallowing in grief for a lover, still able to carry himself through 2 years. Junwoo was right when he said that just because Wooyeon slit his wrist once he can impose himself on Junwoo.

    Junwoo was forced to be isolated, made to carry the death of his parents and pushed away without an ounce of sympathy. Junwoo's grief is coated with guilt. All this during childhood. If Junwoo is made to retract his words or even be guilty of overlooking Wooyeon's pain, that's it for me. Junwoo has no obligation nor does he deserve to discredit himself of his pain just because someone is still suffering from their own while imposing themselves on him.

    Junwoo does not deserve that guilt from Wooyeon.

    moody_bish May 22, 2020 5:34 pm
    At 41:Grief and Guilt are different. I dont want to compare but Junwoo is right when he said that Wooyeon wouldn't understand nor will they ever be at the same page. Wooyeon is wallowing in grief for a lover, s... moody_bish

    42:

    Well what about that huh. I was right. The pretentious childhood friend didnt event think about how Wooyeon's issue could make problems for Junwoo. The fucker doesn't even realize what Junwoo is suffering from and underestimate Junwoo. Wow. Looking for a lover from someone who is mentally ill without even considering the said mental condition? I applaud you Wooyeon, you son of a bitch.

    Hanbit really wasnt considerate. These hypocrites.

    moody_bish May 22, 2020 5:47 pm
    42:Well what about that huh. I was right. The pretentious childhood friend didnt event think about how Wooyeon's issue could make problems for Junwoo. The fucker doesn't even realize what Junwoo is suffering fr... moody_bish

    44

    Let me slap you in the back for being honest you son of a bitch. My god, I'm glad Junwoo turned away. And what's worse is that Junwoo has to suffer from the lies he's fed. I do think that this one was dragged out too long because Wooyeon was already busted before but it does help that it happened after Junwoo took a step forward from the guilt he's been carrying.

    It's just sad to have Junwoo having to be the one understanding why Wooyeon lied when all Wooyeon did was ignore Junwoo's pain. As helpful as he was to be Junwoo's companion, he listened to what he wanted to hear. All the things Junwoo suffered from (the classmate bullies and dickwads of a relative) didnt even make him want to think about what he's doing to Junwoo. After all that he still looked at Junwoo as a replacement or at least percieved him to be a lover that could help him move on.

    moody_bish May 22, 2020 6:07 pm
    44Let me slap you in the back for being honest you son of a bitch. My god, I'm glad Junwoo turned away. And what's worse is that Junwoo has to suffer from the lies he's fed. I do think that this one was dragged... moody_bish

    Complete:

    Well, wasnt that disappointing for me. By the time Junwoo chased Wooyeon I have lost the strong emotions of anticipation. The plane swooped down and crashed. The ending was a montage, playing out the future like an ideal dream. After being dragged by emotional and mental burdens of their cohabitation, it vanished into thin air.

    Junwoo was right again. Being outside doesn't mean it is the real world.

    moody_bish May 22, 2020 6:19 pm
    Complete:Well, wasnt that disappointing for me. By the time Junwoo chased Wooyeon I have lost the strong emotions of anticipation. The plane swooped down and crashed. The ending was a montage, playing out the f... moody_bish

    Let end in this in a better note. Ive been frustrated by how people treated Junwoo to the point that I babied Junwoo in my head. Of course, Junwoo picked himself up to chase after Wooyeon because Wooyeon is the manifestation of what he wants. That is his choice a person who is no longer obligated to be guilty about other people.

    He has grown over the years and though je cane breakdown again, he has finally heard the words he wanted to hear which can really be simple to people but really does weigh more. That's why now, he is owning his life by getting out that door and choosing to go for Wooyeon.

    That is his choice (which even if I am not satisfied with, I should accept.) Since he is happier now by his choices, I can be satisfied with the image of picking himself up.

moody_bish May 22, 2020 6:44 am

"Send my love to your new lover~~ treat her better~~" just a snippet of a song that the seme reminds me off hahaha. Like, he really wished Yuka to be happier after having betrayed him. He must be the sort to be disappointed in you for suffering when you betrayed him for that new love.

After the main story, I've become more attached to Minato especially since his past was fleshed out in this. Shizuka gives off a more mature and stable personality which makes sense to cause more insecurity in Minato. However, since a relationship isn't the sort to be perfectly stable all the while, it makes their bond capable of getting stronger in the future.

I really doubt loving the other is ever enough in a relationship. Minato is scared of hurting Shizuka which shows how little he loves himself. Shizuka values himself because he trusts in his own capability to hold on to Minato. This trait of his makes him more stable and able to help Minato overcome his insecurity.

Also maybe seeing Shizuka jealous and somewhat possessive of Minato is an expression of his love and valuing Minato's attention and affection. (idk if this makes sense to you because I think that jealousy is not only because you are insecure or doubtful of your partner. Jealousy can just come from your desire to have your partner dote on you more or redirect their attention and affection towards you instead of someone else. Hmm, maybe it's more of "greed" than jealousy per se.)

moody_bish May 21, 2020 6:43 pm

It gets really frustrating then comedic. Just when the plot turns dark, some sort of numbness or apathy intervenes. Truth to be told, I relate on Tae's emotional confusion int terms of my real life experiences. My mood can change drastically when the stress piles up or just something random occurs.

And still, as I look on my past, there is apathy and misery. Dayeol also has that impulsive and non-committive personality. He gets fired up yet pulls back then tries to redeem himself from the words he's said.

I doubt their relationship will be smoother after this conclusion. It would be more like another season of character development. These two weren't even prepared to be in an intimate relationship with each other. Although, I doubt anyone is ever prepared in a relationship. It's just that these two must own up to their feelings and commit. I'll be anticipating for a next season tho.

moody_bish May 21, 2020 4:45 pm

I do not hate it nor do I love it, but I am enthralled by their relationship. To a reader (generally speaking), the slow build up of imprint by the stalker has less impact than to the actual MC. That's why even if it is predictable for Hyungsung to be dependent on his stalker and the stalker becomes too attached to Hyunsung, they're relationship still ends up being ambiguous. The thoughts of Hyunsung are merely his own conscious perspective which the stalker has reminded to be very much subjective (a conscious choice of how to interpret a situation).

But what of the change in Hyunsung as he rope his stalker back to his side? Hyunsung wanted to break his stalker's tenacity, but Hyunsung hesitates and chose to let him go. The pity he feels is foreign for someone who wanted his stalker to suffer. He consciously chooses to percieve it as pity and decides to make their relationship "work". He is frightened by his stalker's sincerity which is different from the first fears he had against his stalker. Pitying your stalker while being frightened by his sincerity are like proof of what his stalker was telling him. Hyunsung kept rejecting to accept his stalker but now, by pity or fearing sincerity, he really didnt have any choice but to accept his stalker.

His stalker may be broken, possessive, and obsessed but he did rip Hyunsung of any choice but accept him. He might not be having the same playful fun but he did get what he want while losing himself in Hyunsung.

He lost his heart to Hyunsung. Hyunsung lost his "freedom" to his stalker. (Lowkey proud of this interpretation)

Wrapping my head around the latter episodes is intriguing and albeit confusing. However, it becomes easier for me to accept the twisted plot when the damage and conflict are centered on the concerned parties instead of roping in an unnecessary number of people besides themselves. It sounds cruel but that makes the conflict and consequences easier to isolate.

FD0 May 21, 2020 1:23 pm

Man, when I was 12 and reading on mangazone, this was among the first mangas I've read (▰˘◡˘▰). Koujirou made me want to dye my hair red (cause I'm brown lels) and since I've already been in love with Barbie, I had a new image of mermaids (even if I cant swim ( ̄∇ ̄"))

Lau is just so sexy ~
And Kou is so fine ~

FD0 May 21, 2020 12:40 pm

At first I was hesitant because Minjae caught feelings too quickly and even when their bodies switched, they were very much conscious of each other's soul than looking at their face and body like lucid dreaming. I mean, come on, wouldn't you look at your own body and at least freak out. Also, i feel bad cringing on the reality show created for this hehe, but the old couple was humorous.

But by the 2nd season, the 1st season made more sense and there weren't much plot holes to be wary off except that the pacing was quick. I'm glad the author held on to this story to the extent of going to Australia. This may be supernatural but it gave that element of learning about Australian aboriginals (of this I don't have knowledge of). The author took the opportunity to broadcast queer love as something as normal as binary relationships. The wedding scene really grabbed my heart because it wasnt used as another obstacle, rather an opportunity which Minjae's sister and Woochan took.

The ex gf was an addition/link rather than a reincarnated existence and she's frustrating. From beginning to end, there wasn't anything redeeming about her beyond letting Minjae and Woochan meet. She was simply the manifestation of ambition, ego, and revenge.

Still, it's fun to have a refreshing take on reincarnation. Like, enemy to friend and student to teacher. Even if Choi did end up to be the same rival who wanted to separate them, he was aware of his limitations. I'm also happy that the wedding didnt involve anything life threatening, but was more of a challenge that queers really do have to confront–society. Judgement and rejection, the sort which a conservative society choose to do. The old couple is a nice addition, too. Like, at first it's the husband adjusting to his wife's taste. Then at the end, the husband made his wife understand that same sex marriage has surfaced already (even if this is rare for the earlier generation to understand).

I'm in love with this story

FD0 May 21, 2020 5:39 am

For someone who worries about others he doesnt really care much about these "others". Yeon kept throwing himself in danger and feel bad when someone else receives the danger because of him. Let's thrive not to make "worrying others" an excuse to meet a potential threat without planning to keep yourself safe.

If he's had an experience where someone begs him to die with with them, then he'd be smart enough to be wary of those who obsess over him. He is "cursed" yet expects others to be rational with him. That ex band member of his fed him cookies with glass shards and threw acid on him (even if Taeho received it), so why does he expect him to someone you could negotiate with?

Also, the whole conflict and dialogue between them was chaotic and Yeon (who is troubled by his curse) does not even think it to be the reason why his ex band member js acting this way.

This is the author's first published work so I hope they'd be more consistent next time. If the curse produces conflicts, then at least make the curse relevant and don't let the MC forget about it after basically blaming the curse.

FD0 May 20, 2020 5:58 pm

This whole mess is a misunderstanding turned into an opportunity. Andy is by far my favorite character which doesnt really imply that the rest were admireable. Jesse is an egoist with daddy issues. Chase is an orphan who is too manipulative and flirty for his own good, but he's kinda the "dream wife" I think? Good with chores and a seductress? Joel? Haaa... Joel doesnt act his age and is more likely to be the most immature in the bunch. He is protective, yeah. But more like controlling because he really does only care about reputation. He even made Jesse his enemy just cause he didnt like being responsible for Jesse's problems. He wanted a "perfect son" who didnt trouble him and when he learned that Jesse was gay he made it seem like a "parenting mistake". He's favoring Chase, too, and going to "dates" with him like a son even while Chase assumed otherwise. Joel is sulking because Jesse isn't being "cute", pfft.

Nah, Chase is flirty and all but he deserves someone else. Being with Joel is really like the puppy love type of relationship. Joel may be acting all mature and wanting to spend his love life through the ups and downs, but I'd rather he learn to be an actual father first. Besides, Jesse is the one adjusting and bridging the gap while his father thought of him to be troublesome. Joel blamed Jesse for all the things he had to suffer from, even the reason why he can't date Jesse. Like, why the fuck does he question Jesse's sexuality while also blaming him because he can't date Chase (a boy and as old as his son??)


The plot was dramatic during their conflict but Joel wouldnt even say sorry to Jesse and communicate his "hardships". Jesse contronted Joel several times, Joel HAD SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO BE A FATHER. Dumbass.

FD0 May 20, 2020 1:45 pm

Okay... Okay... So a few days passed after that night and now Ed is going to Glenn, ready to re establish their relationship. But Chang re appears with that pathetic desperation apparent in his actions. And the trio are about to collide.

Wait a damn minute... Did I skip an episode? Why is there a drastic change in pace? Im glad and all that Ed is ready to rekindle the fire but the how Chang is easily brushed off without the classic persistence and bruteness of his is unnatural. Besides, if Chang and Glenn did end up fighting and something happened which triggered the sudden mellowed Chang, I hoped it had been fleshed out first before Ch57...

I did expect Ed to be hesitant because he had to straighten some facts with Chang but I guess it went more of an emotional and mental recalibration. And i guess by straightening some facts, the words Ed told Chang at the hotel after the assault was the end of it... That by now, he's going to let Chang suffer from his own new found feelings.

( ̄へ ̄)(〜 ̄△ ̄)〜 ┗( T﹏T )┛ okayyy fine, let me hope for a fleshed out episode to justify these turn-tables

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