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The funniest thing about these comments asking for yaoi and saying that they don't like straight sex, is that most are straight women. Cringe.

1. Seungho ruffled Nakyum's hair in an affectionate gesture but also checked his fever as he did so. That's why he was like I won't do anything you're still feverish.

Its cuuuteeee. Also shows he regrets that Nakyum got as sick as he did because sg overdid it and now he is treating NK with care.

2. Raw spoilers / When Nakyum noticed Seunghos tense fist during the convo with his brother and his pained nightmare face, Nakyum allowed himself to be held (in order to comfort sg) and lied fo the Inhun about knowing anything about Seungho

This shows that what Nakyum feels towards Seungho is also affection and care and my guess is that these feelings have grown in him as they've continued to have sex. A lot is communicated in those moments and as SeungHo basically provides validation to Nakyum's sexuality and sensuality and need for touch, Nakyum may be feeling more tender feelings towards him.

Before Seungho, all Nakyum knew was to be ashamed of that part of himself and guilty that he couldn't push it away. It tormented him to the point of alcoholism. So I think what's happening for Nakyum is big.

3. Inhun keeps showing himself to be an insect. When NK was sick he didn't give a shit and Nakyum is beginning to notice, especially since he now has a strong foil to Inhuns behavior. Inhun has him on a yoyo. He does something mean or self serving and follows it up with a sweet touch or word. Nakyum, who was previously starved for male attention, may have easily fallen for that before, but now Seungho gives him uninterrupted attention and *wants* him more and more and even beyond common sense and reason.

4. When Seungho goes to buy Nakyum clothes, I think that's a huge sign of what Seungho intends to do with Nakyum's status. Nakyum is right not to think of himself as a servant in the household. He is more like the mistress and soon to be wife ;) sorry but I love it

Overall, historical context considered, Seungho is very good to Nakyum and Nakyum's character is developing in a way such that he also understands that.

I think their kisses and touches are a lot less forced / unwanted on Nakyum's end. Seung ho is mr steal ya man lmfao

5. Why is he so tortured when he can't touch Nakyum? Does Nakyum provide some sort of respite for him?

Can someone please help me how to upload mangas in this site?

Late night reading: I suddenly felt an urge to go through the Joseon period caste system. I know nothing about Korea's history but according to Wikipedia (see below), this was the Joseon caste system. Can you tell me who belongs where in the story? Like, I assume that Seungho and his fam are Yangban, but then what about the learned sir, Jiwha & all of Seungho's harem, and our cute painter?
Tiny spoiler but Na-Kyum argues in chapter 38 that he's not a slave. Given that he's an orphan who was raised by courtisans, why isn't he a slave? And is he a Sangmin or a Cheonmin?

Joseon caste system:

Class HangulHanja Meaning
Yangban 양반 班 aristocrats
Jung-in 중인 中人 middle people
Sangmin 상민 常民 commoners
Cheonmin 천민 賤民 vulgar commoners
• Baekjeong 백정白丁 untouchables
• Nobi 노비 奴婢 slaves or serfs

Hold on..hear me out. Nakyum clearly didn't want to have sex with Yoon bc he loves Inhun, yeah...BUT he clearly told Yoon 'I will do all that you have asked' to divert Yoon's bloodlust off Inhun..Nakyum knew that meant sex and that he'd have to paint it. It is so much more tragic than a simple fictional yaoi rape. This author is really pushing the envelope with that yaoi trope. When Nakyum lost his virginity to Yoon, he gave his consent--Yoon was wrong to take advantage of Nakyum being so drunk he thought he was doing the deed with Inhun, again that is so much more complicated than rape or consensual sex. The only unarguably rape moments imho were the chapter before the bath scene--Yoon stopped when he saw Baek was not getting hard and the forced bj Nakyum performed to keep Yoon from killing Inhun for the evulz. This story needs a psychological tag and I need an aspirin and a fluffy manga break.

I may get many downvotes if I say this but here it goes. The shippers of this couple do not own any explanation to anyone. Every single person who choses to read this do it at their own risk of discomfort. Imagine start reading something and then expecting others to stop shipping or romancing a couple because you don't like them or feel uncomfortable?
I don't know how many times Yaoi readers in general have to say that just because one engages and enjoys stories and ships like this doesn't mean they condone rape or abuse.
There are many readers who don't ship the MCs but I haven't read one single poster here who is capable of express their opinion without going ten steps further and laying shame to others than do.
How many times the same thing has to be said over and over and even more in a
Yaoi genre? We all have different tastes and this is what makes these kind of moralistic shaming in PON even worse. I have seen people here that apparently enjoy other stories/ships that also have their grain of abuse, yaoi or shounen ai . For whatever reason, they seemed capable to enjoy other 'more friendly' abuse plot, Yet, they become the banner abusive relationship educators in this particular story -- that, by the way, is not even one of the most classic rape plots.
If you enjoy the story for the art or because you want to see Seungho dead or whatever, okay, stay and enjoy as you wish but why the need to put down people who ship the characters? If they want to ship Seungho and Nakyum and fangirl over it and you get sick with it when you are in a story that this is more than expected and common, the problem is not the shippers, it's you --- who can't express your point without making others feel below you and you think others should adjust to make you comfortable to be here.
Nobody is required to stop liking or shipping something just for you to feel better.
If people want to see romance, let them. Its not your problem. If you really think people who ship these two are immorals or stupid, be even better, refrain from making people feel trash, just say a prayer silently thanking the Gods for your higher intellect and morals. Imagine judging people you know nothing about, never saw or talked based on the fact that they ship a Seungho x Nakyum Yaoi story. Life is bigger than this and so it's our morality.
It would be perfect if stories like these were actually locked by a password, like a forbidden room only for 'immoral' perverts. Like an orgy. You don't enter an orgy just to stay there and keep preaching to everyone how nasty they are. I mean, yes, you could be a voyeur and pass silent judgment but that is exactly what you are incapable of doing it. It's not enough that you engaged in a situation that would make you feel uncomfortable, you also feel uncomfortable that others are enjoying and then you NEED to shame them for making you feel uncomfortable when it was your choice to engage in a situation that triggers you.
If you can't post your opinion without shaming others and telling them you have higher MORALS (really? the moral line is shipping rape plot yaoi?) then your argument is already flawed.
Yes, everyone has the right to opinion but somewhat I find it unnecessarily wrong and impolite to go to Shotacon for instance, start a story with a plot I despise and then proceed to hang around chapter after chapter shaming the readers who are shipping the couple and asking them to explain themselves. I can't relate to readers who enjoy Shotacon but I can relate to the idea of respecting people's taste in fiction and knowing my business is not confront them with my particular view, especially if the premise of the story is something I know in advance that I don't like it.
Stop shaming the shippers. Let them see romance. Let them root for the couple. It will not affect your life and if it does affect your enjoyment of the story... again, that is on you to adjust and decide it it's worthy it. If you feel uncomfortable with others shipping something, it's your place to excuse yourself from the situation instead of ask people to adjust to your level of comfort.
Shippers, you don't need to feel shame. Nobody pays your bills, knows your life and what you have been through.

Things we know so far:


-He's the firstborn son of the Yoon familly.

-Since his grandfather has passed away, no one of his family has took a government post.

-His family's power and influence is declining.

-He seems to have some trouble sleeping.

-He's been deeply hurt in the past that now he's very unstable and has violent mood swings.

-His whole family left him alone and took the servants.

-Mr. Kim is the only who knows his past.

-Has an extreme obsession with sex.

-Used to need help to get it up (wonder why)

-He's well known in the region as a sodomite.

-He's highly educated but lacks emotional intelligence that he can't differentiate jealousy from anger.

-Very intelligent and observant.

-Currently, developing feelings/obsession for Nakyum.




Questions/Speculations

-Why Seungho and his father didn't follow the steps of his grandfather? I read that in those times nobles would prepare themselves to aspire a high post in the government. Seugnho has more opportunities than Inhun, he's more prepared and most importantly, he has a name of power and influence. So why hasn't he tried to get one? Also, why hasn't he married yet? People married quite young in those times.

-Seungho looks like in his mid-twenties to me and Mr. Kim has worked for him since a decade, so probably he met the master when he was an teenager. So I think something happen in his adolescence that transformed him from a regular noble to a depraved and violent one.

-How old was Seungho when his family left him alone? It seems that it has passed some years since that happened, so if they left him when was young, no wonder why he turned so unstable. Sometimes when I'm reading this, he reminds me of child throwing tantrums or an angsty teen. I think he developed his sex's obsession after being abandoned, maybe his trying to fill a void with that. After all, in the Joseon era, the family played a huge role.


-Finally, did Mr. Kim chose to stay with Seugnho or it was his obligation? Does the master trust him enough that he hasn't change of servant?

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Man, I really love this series, I can't wait to learn more things about the lord's past. I think the servant is going to play a huge part on the future.



P.D. English isn't my native language, so forgive me if I have some errors.

I know it's impossible for many readers but I think to fully enjoy this story we need to make a mental effort to transport into that time period and see all the characters are men of their time.
It's a mistake to apply modern morality standard to them, because they do what men of their time and age were supposed to do.
This is valid for almost everything we denounce as wrong today but were widely accept as the norm in the past ( think about how men treated women, about slavery, about public hangings, etc, etc).
Seungho is a rich Lord, a master. Li Hiun is not as powerful but it has an intermediary status in between Seungho and NaKyum.
I'm not saying that people couldn't still be reasonable split between honorable or evil but overall, the world was much more cruel and status hierarchy ingrained.
Seungho is not a good person but I disagree to qualify him as psychopath or 'Sangwoo'. He is a Lord, used to get everything and everyone. Killing a low born clearly is not a matter of law at that time, even more raping.
To say that Seungho is a psychopath is just flat the character in my opinion. Do we see him raping or forcing sex before NaKyum? No. So, if we analyze his sexual kinks, he doesn't seem to be exactly the type that enjoys inflicting pain or raping just for the sake of it. Does he kills anyone who upsets him? Yes but just like the rape with NaKyum, this seems to be more like a sense of entitlement that the psychopath need to torture or pain.
What I am saying is that, maybe it's impossible to stop using modern standard to judge Seungho ( and InHun and Nakyum) characters but if we make the effort, we may see a more interesting story. Seungho is visibly jealous of the teacher and he has for a while desired Nakyum ( remember he saying that he would never embrace a low born). He also clearly despises the teacher so his anger is even worse because NaKyum idolizes the other man.
I think Seungho started feeling lust as the promiscuous guy that he is and he also may have only intended to fluster Nakyum with his advances but things changed when Nakyum took him for the teacher and the sex happened.
Notice that out of all things sexual Seungho could have recollected, it wasn't the hot or forced things he remembered, it was the tender moment of confession from Nakyum when he said he was happy in his arms ( when Nakyum thought it was Inhun). This is what he envies the most about the teacher right now, the affection and desire Nakyum feels for the other guy. He, of course, doesn't compute this to be romantic love nor even jealousy but all he knows right now is to have by force. He is irritated because he just doesn't know rejection and when it happens, it was from someone he would never expect to care about it.

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I’ve been reading through the comments, and I’ve noticed a few that note that Seungho’s appearance at the end of the 28th chapter could very well hint that there is murder upcoming.
A few note that this could mean that he very well could hurt Nakyum and Inheon as a result of their “escape.” (In quotations since there is still a possibility that it hasn’t happened.)
The reason why I think he wouldn’t hurt them (by this I mean kill since I believe that physical ramifications are still on the table) is the following:

-Seungho has shown before that he is attached to Nakyum in a way that he hasn’t been to anyone before
(1. “I can’t think about anything else [when talking about Nakyum’s paintings.] 2. “Is it the paintings he’s staring at or is it me?” [during the sex scenes] 3. “Why did he do that? He usually doesn’t go back on his word....” [when Nakyum didn’t get the straw mat beating])

-Seungho is also someone that shouldn’t be taken lightly because he is a lot more intelligent than people perceive him to be
(1. When he admits to the teacher that he was aware that the poem he’d given Nakyum was a bad plagiarization. 2. “Why would I keep books I haven’t read?” 3. When he didn’t hurt the red-haired young nobleman and instead took out his anger on the ‘amateur spy.’ (He is aware that there are ramifications for hurting someone of his equal or better status)

-Because of this, he is aware that Inheon is the key to Nakyum (time and time again, he’s threatened the learned man’s wellbeing for Nakyum’s subservience! Either by threatening his possibility of being on a government post to his life)

-He has a growing care/ affection/ obsession(????) with Nakyum
(1. When he first meets Nakyum, he’s surprised by his tears, and he wipes them away. 2. He changed his mind when Nakyum was about to get the straw mat beating. 3. He took it slowly with Nakyum after he asked him to during their first sex scene. (Even if he got ahead of himself after). He also accepted Nakyum’s fond words and caresses with that strange look in his eyes. 4. He told Nakyum to call him “lord” during their sex scene. (He seemed to not want Inheon’s title brought up during it) 5. He defended his ‘property’ after he found out the red-haired nobleman had played schemes. He also stopped him from hurting Nakyum further. 6. When he was in the pavillion with Nakyum, he notices that Nakyum isn’t breathing regularly and orders him to “breathe.” His eyes were very expressive when he noticed that Nakyum was not hard, only in pain. 7. He points out Nakyum’s “swollen eyes” tenderly as he caresses Nakyum’s face in the bath scene. 8. He’s prone to become jealous or incensed when Nakyum mentions his teacher. (Right after Nakyum hits him, Nakyum tells him that that night wouldn’t have happened if he weren’t drunk as those words were meant for his teacher. His reaction?: violence. (In fact, some of his most recent reactions towards Nakyum are physically violent but more on that later!!) 9. He is unhealthily obsessed with Nakyum’s pretty face (as some have seen from the ch 28 raws; he’s blushy)

-the last reason is: the story is far from over!!! If Inheon or Nakyum are killed prematurely, there is no more story!! This story is titled “Painter of the Night,” so, while we are getting the chance to see Seungho’s possible character development, it’s very likely that it will be Nakyum’s that will be the end goal. Inheon still also has a lot of potential as well—the author has made him a rising threat and we still have to see that threat grow.

Therefore, if Inheon and Nakyum have truly escaped, Nakyum will not be hurt in a permanent way.
However, notice that I did not say Inheon? The reason is, in the end, I do think that there will be repercussions. Why?
Because Seungho is not someone that talks lightly about threats. He’s been “nice” to Nakyum from his constant backing up on hurting Nakyum more permanently. But that doesn’t count Inheon. I do think that he will use Inheon again to manipulate Nakyum to keep him there and possess him entirely, but, because Inheon is Nakyum’s “want,” he will not get rid of him entirely.

In terms of story speech, I believe this story is an obsessive romance. Obsessive romances rarely end well. Obsessive romances rest primarily on a character’s/s’ physical desire for someone/ each other. These are ‘cautionary tales that show no deeper connection other than the physical/ psychological necessity of coupling’. While I do think that Seungho will become so attached to Nakyum that he will become possessive, I do not see Nakyum falling for him for various reasons. One of them being that Seungho has caused him a lot of pain, and he currently views him as a monster.

I, personally do not see this story becoming a courtship story (where there is commitment between two characters for ‘fidelity, honesty, and servitude above all others’ and where the characters improve themselves for each other.)
Why is that? Because I believe that these characters will become darker versions of themselves.
There is a dark, enchanting attraction between Nakyum and Seungho that, for the moment is being held back by Nakyum’s affection for Inheon, his morals, and his unwillingness to fall into debauchery for Inheon’s sake (he cares a lot about what his teacher thinks of him).
As I see it right now, Nakyum’s wants and needs are still opposing.
Nakyum’s want: Please his teacher and have him accept his love.
His need: embrace his inner darkness and sexuality.

I’ve also noticed that most of Seungho’s violent moments come when he feels undermined, humiliated, or when his rank is contested.
Inheon reacts very adamantly when Nakyum badmouths Seungho and he basically tells him to “know his place.”
Seungho is someone that always gets what he wants. Nakyum is someone that intrigues him from his unwillingness and contrasting actions, as we’ve seen from his various musings to himself (1. “How can someone so adamant on lying who refuses to draw make such a lewd painting?” 2. Another is when Nakyum badmouths SH and tells him that his teacher is better than him. SH questions his actions as NK is usually scared of him but is suddenly so willing to defend his teacher)

The society in this story is marked very plainly by rank. The top knots is one of those examples, which people can clearly see marks social status.
SH is used to getting what he wants because of his rank and the power he owns. He has spies and people that do the work for him. He has servants and noblemen that fall on their knees to have a night with him.
NK is the first person to challenge that. (As we know of for now.)
Every time NK does challenge that, there is a consequence:
1. NK tries to snatch his poem back from SH and his hat falls backwards. Reaction: SH pushes him backwards to the floor.
2. SH thinks that NK poured water on his painting. RCT: SH almost has him beat but changes his mind.
3. NK rejects his advances and hits him, leaving a mark on his unblemished face. RCT: “Have you gone crazy?” SH reacts three-fold.
4. SH is tender when he notices NK’s swollen eyes. NK hits his hand away. RCT: SH holds on to NK’s face harder, roughly.

NK’s reactions are all normal to the readers, who are aware that people are people regardless of rank. But, to anyone else in that era, his actions are rude and unaware.
What does the old man tell him? Not to escape but to just lay low. SH is constantly incensed by NK’s rejection, but I do believe that this is because he’s used to getting what he wants.

Future Guesses:
-it’s likely that there will be a punishment for NK if he’s really escaped. Either some servants will die and/or Inheon will be hurt to show NK that his actions have consequences. SH will show NK again that he can find him no matter where he goes.
-it’s likely that once he gets him back, things will go as originally planned with the mirror and the drawings
-NK might be hurt in a way that has SH realize that he has deeper feelings than he thought
-SH’s jealousy will either make him create a mistake or will make him realize his feelings

As you can see, I had too much time in my hands!!!

Edit:
As of ch. 28, Nakyum is still a means to an end for SH. He has yet to understand why someone who is underneath him is so easily able to dismiss and challenge him. His obsessive feelings are still in the budding stage, as he’s barely starting to notice that the catalyst for a lot of his interest is NK.

We’re in stage one still, as he hasn’t realized his feelings. He’s aware that NK’s presence causes him a physical reaction, and he’s constantly keeping an eye on him to see what he’s up to.
Stage 1 shows his interest. The last stage would show that obsession growing into full-fledged yearning for possession, regardless of NK’s will.
Therefore, for his character growth, he needs to understand NK and where he’s coming from (but it’s debatable if he ever will). I believe that’s why the red-haired nobleman and Inheon are conflicts. At this point, they both want to see SH fall, and if NK does as well, it’s even better for them.

I hold a hypothesis that they will succeed in hurting SH’s status as a nobleman to an extent, and how NK reacts could very well define how their relationship develops. SH is also someone who doesn’t submissively accept downfall, so I expect that he’ll be fighting the whole way through.