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I hate klopp I hope he gets tortured for eternity in hell where he belongs

I was reading the whole thing all over again and I'm sorry to say that I lost all sympathy towards jiwook I don't even pity him no because he was the problem he was selfish and full of his pride and his inferior complex .. seung eun tried over and over again to assure him that he loves him he wanted only to love him and see him happy he tried to fix his attitude he got over himself and changed for better but jiwook didn't care or appreciate or even seize his opportunities he was arrogant with a chip on his shoulder he hurt seungeun so much and disappeared , seungeun told him he would settle if he used him for his money his willing to as long as he stayed by his side .. but nah this wasn't good for jiwook he loved to suffer and wanted seungeun to suffer too I know part of him was relieved that seuneun was suffering he saw seungeun as a privileged person with a spacious warm house top of his class an heir to huge company it won't matter if he was rejected or humiliated or broken by the person who loved the most I'm suffering too anyway .. I'm sooo fucking mad all of this couldn't have happened they could spent the 10 years happily together if he just trusted him and swallowed his pride for once accepted the help you're allowed to show weakness in front of your loved ones and it needs courage to ask for help too asking for help is not a defeat

hello ??? this is from an actual webtoon with a story which is it bc half a chapter in im hooked

I hope the seme gets burned alive, i want him dead by the end of the story. This had so much potential yet it just turned into another rapey trash story in which mc will probably end up with his rapist.

Everyone’s saying he’s the worst toxic male lead but I have other thoughts lol there’s an account on Instagram that explains why he’s not a red flag and it’s eye opening to me, someone who has never read the novel and just listening to people saying he’s a red flag. If you read the novel in illegal sites I won’t believe what you say

I've read the novel and as much as I hate toxic male leads, that's the whole point of this story. Matthias is addressed as a cruel person by numerous people throughout the novel, that's the genre of the story. It's supposed to be dark, similar to Killing Stalking. While I completely understand the complaints, there's no point since the author wrote this story with the goal of it being about possession and power differences. Layla is like a poor bird trapped inside a painful cage by Matthias who would rather kill his birds then let them flee his grasp. Abusing his authority to bind her to him, that's the whole point of the story. I quite like how the story uses metaphors of how disgusting nobles treat those lower then them like animals. If an awful male lead isn't your cup of tea, then this story DEFINITELY isn't recommended for you. Matthias isn't a character about growth or change, he does what he does to get what he wants until he succeeds.

One thing I will admit tho.. romanticising this sort of behavior is extremely problematic and when writing this form of fiction, writers should be more clear within the story of what is and isn't ethical and moral for the viewers who digest this type of content wrong. Readers should also be careful when consuming this sort of literature, not everything has to teach a lesson of good deeds and acts. Some stories will purposefully depict horrid things to showcase the reality of the world we live in and signs to avoid.

My little ted talk is done, see yall for ch 11.

Honestly I’m feeling for the mc right now. The feeling of being sheltered and only being around few people who are all positive to you that’s all you can believe. It’s not his fault he thinks he’s cute, that’s all he ever hears. He obviously doesn’t talk to other people he’s just innocent and ignorant. And the feeling of your only friend who is with you for everything slowly moving onto new people that fit them better. Haha reminds me of the old times. It’s really crazy how life changes I’m so happy and content with life now. Bruh I’m reminiscing in a comment.

It’s gonna hit him hard when he get introduced to a reality away from his own. You’re not the sun. No one revolves around you. (What the fuck am I typing I’m so tired)

Reading this while listening to Mitski was a bad bad idea, Every chapter makes me want to cry (and I did cry) this was soul-crushing. I am not okay. I hate Kloff for what he did to Aeroc. It's understandable that you hate him for what he did and want revenge but damn did you really have to take it that far? Aeroc suffered so much physically, mentally, and spiritually. I salute Aeroc for staying strong till the end and not only that he also learned his lesson.

He was killing himself with guilt and all together while dealing with all the things he had to go through yet he still chose to stay to redeem himself, learn from his mistakes, and try to make it up to you. But no you just gotta be the devil incarnate himself to make yourself feel better. I hope everyone in that rotten mansion who mistreated Aeroc will die a miserable and painful death, I hope they'll experience the pain Aeroc went through especially that devil spawn Krapp. Toodles

Google translate isn't helping I wanna read chapter 20-22 soo bad

This is an absolute MASTERPIECE.

I agree with the comments saying how phenomenal the paneling work here is. So much of the story telling and narrative can be elevated by an excellent paneling work. This had so much development within 5 chapters than most MCs do in 60 chapters and that's talent right there. The dialogue was done REALLY well. The translations team is also BLOODY awesome. Stunning job with the translations. It's done very very well and I like how many unique words they used. I didn't know what phlegmatic meant before. I learned a new word.

PLS BE AWAKE. PLS BE AWAKE. PLS BE AWAKE.

i literally know the spoilers to the very end but i'm still hooked.

Listen man MC was completely in the wrong for what he did, even if he didn’t want them to actually hurt whatshisface it was still messed up. What kloff did? In my opinion, maybe 10x worse. Not only did he physically, verbally, and mentally abuse him, he also raped him and locked him up for years- forcing him to give birth to his kids 5 TIMES all while in insufferable pain (and then refusing to let him see them and even beating him when they accidentally met). Also oh yeah he drugged him to make him be able to get pregnant in the first place, and threw him out on the street right after a pregnancy knowing bad things would happen to him… MC wasn’t even allowed to smile or be happy in any way.. And Kloff calls the MC pretentious and shit when he is constantly misunderstanding him and never bothered to try and understand him (even when they were initially on good terms) and always jumped to conclusions.

We want to talk about evil? There is absolutely no excuse for what Kloff did to the MC. To be able to do that to someone no matter how much you hate them? You have to be sick and twisted. If anyone should suffer it’s him. I feel sorry for his kids.

Who is the target audience for this at this point??
People who read dark stuff for the plot?? Then where is the "dark" plot like the author promised? Where is the warnings and dark tags??? How tf do you have a romance tag but not the "dark" stuff??? I dont get it??? Like anyone who came here for the plot clearly cant understand what unique plot she is aiming for?? Anyone who reads dark stuff for the plot definitely has high expectations, like the author definitely disappointed us with that one. (Anyone who finds this story interesting genuinly tell me why? Like, seriously)
12 year old girls who just got into bl and likes hot people and cant understand what is actual sex and what is sexual abuse???? What is a good plot and what is bad??? Thats problematic.
Women who fetisize gay men??? Like aint now way. if there is not plot thats the only thing left. Gay sex dubcon. Bruh.
Or women who self insert themselves in mah boy dan to imagine getting abused by a hot gay man???
I am genuinely thinking so hard of people who would like this type of stuff and this is all.

Okay if this is targeted towards people who love to shit on trash then she got that right.

Bj alex was pretty good yk (my views on that has changed but hush) it was pretty creative. It had its weaknesses so i expected her to do better in her future works yk??? But this is what she came up with?? This is not an "i hate the author so much" but my genuine questions that i just cant find the answer to...

Seriously what dan said "he probably is suffering more"...what sane person can believe that...did the author made him this stupid on purpose?? Aint no way an adult with more than 3 braincells cant let that go...Or did the author self inserted herself in to dan to say that shit? Coz i cant believe dan is this down bad???? Demn okay now i am overthinking...

Ig gay men in the chat remain...this basically is gay porn so you all good. You all have the right to fap to it.

LOVE re-encounters. I hate them. So much. Kdramas, novels, comics...wtf is it with this trope?

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

If anyone is able to find the artist social please let me know. I want to send the artist so much love and support and just tell them how amazing their art is.

people forcing the artist to quit are brain dead morons how could you think the art is bad??? it's drop dead gorgeous, ethereal, world changing, everytime i see their art i feel like im drowning in the ocean and as im drowning i can see these beautiful glass sea creatures that take my breath away each time thats just how amazing it is. especially considering how most cn art is insufferable no other artist can top that. the training they must have gone through to reach this im just in awe.

I don't know how the artist is feeling rn but I just want to show them our love and support and if they can to please not quit just because some people don't have eyes to witness how their art is perfect for capturing the beautiful pain little mushroom is about to bestow on us

To ppl who wants a copy of the novel:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1NxrebkAArULriTsVED4KAFGPh8_RyyYh

Note: I did read the whole thing

The writing's a mess here, but the author does have some few capabilities with it anyway.

Aside from the art being pretty good and visibly improving over the course of the series, the author is at least able to maintain a brisk pace throughout the entire run, all the way up until the very abrupt ending. The main character Kang Junho is generally likeable even if his character bears the cross of some of the most egregious writing problems.

I guess, since I do this so frequently, I may as well discuss some of the problems in this story. Although I probably don't have too many outside of what others have already said in the comments/topics/etc.
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General:

- Lack of establishment of scenes. Some scenes occur in places you have no idea about, or where they are, for example, that basement-y warehouse-y place where the chairman is holding Jihoon at the end. Is it the basement of his mansion? Is it an unused warehouse on the school grounds? Who knows! And I'd also like to know how crazy-blue-hair happens to know.

- Jarringly weird flashback-flashforwards in many, many of the chapters. For example, a chapter will end on a cliffhanger, then the next chapter will show a character flashed forward a few hours regretting something they did, then it will flash back to what happened in the interim.

- Overuse of tropey/cliche things. Lee Kang is that typical high-octane top, and everyone he bones falls immediately in love with him (apparently including Junho). Parents killed by car crash. Evil aunt/uncle who take him in then blame him when they can't make it work. Don't-have-an-umbrella trope and getting-sick-in-the-rain trope. As an aside, it is so irritating when a comic leans so hard on a trope that is total superstition to make things happen in the plot, such as getting sick in the rain, which pretty much never happens in real life. How do these people take showers?

- Junho being a beefcake is all aesthetics, and was put in this story to satisfy a fetish, rather than for him to actually be strong/powerful. He should've been able to throw at least a couple of punches against Lee Kang before getting grappled and raped any of the many times he was determined to fight back.

- BL crazyworld stuff. Everyone's gay, like apparently Junho's friend from the baseball team is suddenly in love with the TA and is ok with boning him without any prior hints of this? Lee Kang thinking that no one will love him at the end of the comic despite everyone he boned being totally in love with him as stated in the story. Having sex everywhere in public and only getting caught when it's convenient for the plot. People knowing other peoples' phone numbers without them ever exchanging numbers. Lee Kang always noticing Kang Junho spying on him, but never vice-versa (I guess he has a Junho detector). And many, many more.

- Characters do things that make no sense. At the end, the chairman threatens to ruin Junho's life in front of Lee Kang, and then Lee Kang's strategy is to go to school and ignore Junho rather than tell him, and help him to protect himself. A beefcake (Lee Kang) being at all threatened by an old man with twiggy arms (the chairman) when the chairman seems to be threatening Jihoon by himself at the end of the story. Also, Junho going to help Lee Kang by himself at the end when he knows what happened to Jihoon's leg back in the day, getting attacked by a group of toughs. How about instead make Junho assemble all the beefcakes on the entire baseball and swim teams, give them all baseball bats, and take them with you? I think there's a pretty compelling argument to get some support out of them in this situation, even if there's some personal risk.

- This is an addendum to the above two, but: Do police not exist in this world? How about we call the police when Lee Kang rapes Junho, or when the chairman beats up Lee Kang, etc. How exactly did the chairman have Lee Kang's parent's killed anyway? I can't imagine the police are so inept as to not be able to tell the difference between intentional sabotage and a drunk driver (??)


Story specific problems:

- Lee Kang needs to be redeemed before Junho decides he's in love with him. Doing this out of order turns this from a redemption plot into a stockholm syndrome plot, which is no good.

- Kang Junho is both ineffective and inept throughout the entirety of his own story. All he can do is get mad, look like he's about the beat the stuffing out of Lee Kang, and then ... not do that at all and get raped instead. This happens repeatedly, and it's so aggravating. But it's not just the rapes, either. Junho's inept at coming up with any kind of revenge to ensnare Lee Kang in, or in otherwise improving his situation. He has no plan and can't think of one, and so his character just has to sit there and be at the mercy of everyone else in the story. The entire ending was orchestrated by swimming #2 crazy blue hair and Jihoon. We don't even get the satisfaction of Junho putting his foot down with Lee Kang and refusing his rapist-summons and telling him enough is enough. In fact, no one has a moment of putting their foot down and saying enough is enough in this story full of bad actors, other than maybe Jihoon (who is also ineffective throughout). This item in particular sucks so much worse because Junho is the main character, and throughout the story we desperately want to see him make any progress at all in getting out of his horrible situation. But he just can't seem to muster it.

- The author trying to pretend a sad backstory is any excuse for the bad behavior of an adult (namely, Lee Kang). It isn't. Lee Kang should've had some glimmers of resistance and made some attempts at breaking free from the cycle before or threaded in with all the sad backstory stuff that was shoved in to try and make the audience feel bad for him.

- No explanation as to why Lee Kang likes Kang Junho in particular, in any way that is different from all the other sex friends Lee Kang has that are all so in love with him. It seems like it's solely because Junho is the main character, and that is the only reason why. This isn't good enough for a character like Lee Kang who is way beyond the norm in terms of things that make him desirable/a good catch.

- There was no reason to make the TA a vindictive baby, taking out his anger at Lee Kang on Junho, when Junho was a victim the entire time. And keep in mind that the TA knew this because he had the video footage of at least two of the rapes, including the original/first one that incepted it all.

- Why is this story about a high-skill baseball player and swimmer, yet we almost never see either of them doing either of these things? We didn't even find out that Junho was a pitcher (I think??) until all the way into the middle of the story. At least we see Junho working out regular intervals. I was actually hoping early on that we'd have Junho play in an important game, and see Lee Kang in the stands smirking at him to set him off balance, but we never got any kind of scene like that.

- The conflict between the baseball club and the swimming club is made to be a big deal at the beginning and on into the middle of the story, but this is never resolved. I was awaiting that moment where Junho and crazy blue hair aka swimmer #2 would lead both teams to storm the chairman's place, but we never got any kind of unity between the two clubs, or resolution to their conflict.

- The story had an abrupt ending with no real wrap-up of the main romance plot other than the fact that the two admitted they loved each other in completely separate scenes (but whyyyyy). The story just suddenly stops right after Lee Kang confesses. The redemption of Lee Kang was probably the most important part of the story but it was cut off before it could really get underway. Jiwon in BJ Alex had an entire second season solely devoted to his redemption arc, and Lee Kang was way worse of an ahole than Jiwon ever was, and needed at least as long to clean up all the messes he made.

- Why did the author use the same name for their two protagonists? Lee Kang and Kang Junho. This is confusing, and nothing in the story is ever done with it, so change one of their names to be some thing different so it's easier to understand who is being talked about.

- Why is Kang Junho's character design almost exactly the same as the #2 swimmer / crazy blue hair? There is no reason to make them look that similar unless the story was gonna go for an "Lee Kang's in love with #2, but its unrequited and #2's got a girlfriend, so he jumps on Kang Junho instead because he looks similar" type plot. Doing this for no purpose is confusing. Give #2 pink hair or w/e to distinguish him some.

- Raping w/o lube via buttsecks is ridiculous. I'm sorry, but you generally are going to have to have lube if you're not going to show major injuries resulting from a buttsecks rape or attempted rape. And even then, given the size of most of these BL tops/semes, you're just plain not going to get it in without lube.

Well, I think this is more than enough. I do want to say most of the general topics have many more examples, such as the "doing things that don't make sense" or things happening that have no setup for them. In fact these things happened so often I was frequently shaking my head at it. I really should've kept a list as I read so I could post the entire thing at the end. Oh well.

Anyway. While the problems were incredibly numberous here, I did actually find the story to be very well-paced, which is something a lot of other authors fail at. So kudos there. I also liked the art, especially towards the end of the series. These are the only things which saved this story from a 1-star rating from me. Peace, out!