So this is where their relationship will really start... I think the only thing that keeps me reading this story is the art
It's been some times since I've started reading this manhua and don't really remember si much about it, but the premise seems interesting so I'm gonna reread it :3
I've come across somewhere, some years ago, a study that was made about which countries has the bigger dicks and which ones the smaller.
And no surprise, Asian men tend to be at the smaller side, with Korean men... being the smallest of the smaller on average. Porn aside, is this why we're seeing now these humongous penises thrown at us like this in these manhwas? Is this the expression of their subconscious frustration?
More than arousing, it's a turn off. This size is just so uncanny and a bother compared to the nice art. What did they smoke, really?
It's sad if your theory is true, complex over dick size is very sad imo since some people just like smaller pps, it's nothing to be ashamed of
Yeah, it's sad... The size isn't the most important thing in a relationship (aside phimosis and ED, of course). Most men have an average size, which is perfectly fine
We like average. No one wants something too big to the point it'd be like having a baby humans head in you even if thats an exaggeration. If child birth ain't gonna feel good, neither is that ToT just sayin
True true and I agree with that
I get it's porn but there should be a limit at how it's big
Overly big hurts so badly
I think Koreans kind of have a size complex overall. Not only drawing big penises and tits, but also making men very tall and with wide shoulders so their heads look smaller. At least Japanese artists draw regular sizes ( /ω )
Yeah, I share the same thoughts.
The top looks a lot like the Alpha in The Alpha's Bride. They're both classic beauty, the cold type. Too bad this cool charadesign was not used in a more readable story.
The art for him has dropped a lot since the first chapters, and the bottom looks so small and thin beside him. Their S acts look nothing but brutal and painful. There's something uncomfortable about that size difference.
Hopefully it's all a fiction because I don't see how the beautiful bottom won't end up broken from all this.
Dan as baby is the cutest babyboy, I want to pinch his cheeks and pat his fluffly head ^o^
How can these brats be so mean to him? Kids can be so cruel to each others.
I wonder if jjk, with his selfish personality, is capable of ever loving someone sincerely and fall in love. Can he really love Dan genuinely one day, with affection, and treat him like a lover and family should do? And not because he needs mc for his jinx, his health or whatever else.
He's been an assh*ole for so long, only using other human beings like tools and utilities for his own good and his passion, mma. His cold and greedy personality makes me fear he's only pursuing the boy just because this one is the best tool he ever had.
What about Dan...? Will their relationship be healthy and moved by love or just fear and lust...?
well, yes of course he can, he's human being like any other dude and also the author post so many official arts about them being together and in the latest post they have a mutual necklace (JK,DAN) so now we have to be patience and see the events that lead to their happy ending :)
I'm not on these social medias, that's why my question is genuine
yes it's very good question ;)
Very good questions. This is a big challenge for the author, since she wrote Jaekyung this way. It would be easier to write Dan's character development, bringing up Dan from the earlier chapters. But it would take excellent writing to redeem Jaekyung and make their relationship healthy.
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Thanks for the appreciation.
They clearly need each other because they're both alone in their life and are lonely. We have no info about jjk's family side. What happened to him and why's he alone? He only has his mma staff, his collegues and the people he employs for S services (mc included). A rather sad environments even though he's so financially well.
Their reunion will put them in better state because both have become alcoholic, they need reassurance and get back their marks... Though what about after cleaning their misanderstandings, doubts...?
Will they continue their preview arrangement, or will their relationship turn into something deeper? For the first time, jjk really needs someone else in his life. He feels sexually frustrated and only Dan Can satisfy him, but emotionally there's still nothing really.
Kim Dan, about him, has become financially independant, but if he moves back to Seoul, will he find a job? (threat by that disguting old pervert for Dan to never get a job there).
I think Dan is hurt and lonely, but he won't go back easily with jjk, he's now independant financially and get the work for what he studied. He's not obligated to go back with the jerk.
There, this is where I think the author can make a great change. Jjk may have to beg and rethink his behavior towards mc. At least I hope... Or will the problematics be brushed away under weak motives, lust etc...?
They did a good job painting the stars, I want the same thing in my chamber.
The way they interact is so precious, this is how you fall in love
Just clicked because it's featured on the board page, without expecting much considering the cover.
Despite the brutal entry, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of art and the dynamic action scene: this looks like it has great potential. But then (of course) we get the usual SA and in this one, all the torturous devices that promise the readers they'll see pain and blood, tears. But like this wasn't enough they need to add a ridiculous size difference and a horse dick to ml.
I don't know what's bothering me the most: all the useless devices or the gigantic dick?
That's not sexy, not arousing even as porn material and despite the hot character designing. My stomach hurts just by looking at the dry S scene - horrific. When will Korean authors put a stop to these surealistic surdimensionnés penises? At some points that's not sexy anymore and looks painful.
And let's not forget the premise of that paper thin plot: HUMBLING a fierce agent by treating him, brutalizing and soiling him like he's less than a dog. To top this all they'll make him fall in love with his rapist (Stockholm Syndrom). So predictable. Do people really need such porn material to feel horny?
When will we get good art coupled with interesting plot and exciting smut in bl, or is it too much to ask?
There are plenty of manga/manhua/manhwa with good art and interesting plot. You’re just not searching the right places. You keep clicking the one with obvious, glaring red flag covers.
Honestly I absolutely agree with the horsedicks being a major turn off.
An average sized dick is so much hotter! I like a tall Top but his dick shouldn't look ridiculous on him.
Also I kinda enjoy when the bottom has a bigger one as well, makes it kinda unexpected and fun.
Alright that's enough "dick" in one comment.
Not all, just this one and Reverse Thinking and mainly because of the art.
It's clear these are ref flag covers with red flag content, but this degrading...?
Actually, there's not so much art styles that are great ; most always contain some issues (anatomy or something else). As a bl reader I can assure you that finding a bl/yaoi with the equation nice art, nice story, nice smut, is like finding a rare gem. When the plot is good, that's the art that's bof. When both are good, you don't get the smut. It depends on your standards also, but I can't' even name 10 bl with the golden equation.
This art style here is amazing (gorgeous faces, proportionate anatomies...), dynamic drawing with a mix of eastern and western influence... though it's wasted on such vapid content.
After No Reason, Reverse Thinking and this one for the latest... There's a tendency that makes us think artists with great art tend to chose the trashiest 'plots' to display their talent
IKR? Lol. I'm partisan of the saying "it's not the size that counts, but the way you do it".
Girl readers generally like smut scenes with lots of kisses, embrace, stimulus etc, good atmosphere, to enjoy our lemons. But I guess this one target another public.
The dick can be normal or massive but if it feels dry and the act rushed (like here), it's not good smut.
These third legs look like they could unalive the bottom, who's much smaller btw, which is a real turn of to me.
An Uke can be bigger if the smaller Seme is more assertive, of course :))
i’m with manga puppy on this one. i agree with you about the plot being trash & the smut not being exciting, but to read the extremely explicit material & then complain about it is getting exhausting at this point. i’d be more understanding if you weren’t being warned, but there’s obvious trigger warnings telling you there’s cruelty & violence involved. personally, when i don’t like something, i avoid it at all costs.
I get what you mean, however people still have the right to express their opinions or dislikes. The comment section is made for that purpose. I could also ask you to not bother to reply to my comment since you clearly can tell it's about negative avis.
Btw, wasting such art on a trashy plot deserves for this work to be roasted, anyway.
Nah, obviously I’m not going to tell you what you’ve read and what you haven’t. Like you said, everyone has different standards, and in my opinion the art style of this manhua is actually not good, the proportions are also not accurate. Like when the top had his hand on the agent’s back, his palm literally covered the entire back (from what was drawn earlier, we can tell the agent isn’t small, neither is he a twink) and then the top’s palm can cover the agent’s entire dick.
So nah I’ve seen way better art than this, great proportions, good smut. You just have to avoid mainstream ones and search beyond ones that appears on mangago, and also (i don’t know you at all so im not going to assume, but) don’t only stick to webtoons and manhuas because they are colored and avoid mangas because they aren’t. A lot of gems are in mangas and this is why people don’t find it.
But let me drop my number one recommendation for you that is underrated for whatever reason. It’s called “Game therapy”
Agree on the proportions on this one, I complained about the size difference in my thread. They are messed up but only when you have the top standing beside the bottom. But separately, they're fine. I don't see the need to put such great difference in their size because its gets ridiculous. The art in itsef is beautiful though, I stand by that, and it's the only good point to me about that work.
I mostly have read mangas, bl mangas, though like everyone I tend to read more K manhwas lately because they've overtoken these sites :/
I'll take a look a your rec, thanks
Correction, the name of my recommendation is “Therapy game” not game therapy lol
Np and thanks
With all these spoilers I feel lost and terrified to read further. It's hard to tell what's true from false for the moment. If this is where It's going then there's no point in pursuing the lecture.
I feel the need to protect my mental by avoiding this one -again, another work chosen by this artist. Why it's not a surprise they'd picked this one. Where's the point in this kind of fiction, except bringing more violence and depravity into this already sad world. Will we grow better or happier after reading this?
I was eager to read a revenge bl, where the victim would 'fight fire with fire', though knowing this I don't wish either for a porn trainwreack that ressembles No Reason. Didn't read No Reason, why would it be otherwise for this one? Btw they pretty much have the same ending, apparently...
Good thing for those who enjoy reading torture porn, though this is not my case. And sadly the splendid art won't help
Generally I would avoid this kind of content, if it were your usual grape porn, though apparently this manhwa was a 'revenge bl' so I decided to continue reading and even get to chapter 5 of the novel.
For the moment it's difficult to know where this is going. For a revenge plot it's very focused on the smut side, even though aggravated. If not for the spoilers, we wouldn't know why the ml is doing all this ravage to mc and the reasons behind his violent actions. The narrator, exterior, just describes coldly and crudely the events as these show up, without any background or explanations that could help to understand better the situation. I think it'll be done much later, but this doesn't help to empathize with the characters. It's a litteraire choice though this could play against the authors as they could be blamed because of the frustration and lack of understanding from the readers. I think the artist does a good job to portray and retranscribe the novel, plus the art is superbe, but they could be blamed again because of their choice of work despite not being the author. The novels they chose to illustrate always contain heavy subjects.
About the plot:
As a victim of SA, gangrape, by numerous boys, the ml could just trap his abuser/s into gangrape by hired thugs as he's rich, and it'll be more fair compared to what's done to him, so why did he decide to rape mc himself?
How did he deal with the other abusers? Does he rape ml himself and sleeps with him only because this latter is... handsome? Or is it because mc was particularly cruel to him, did he decide to handle things in his own hands?
Technically, the text is well-written, so I hope everything will make sense, in the end, and it'll avoid the grotesque clichés we're used to in this genre. But if it does, it will not be a surprise and it'll just reveal to be a waste of time.
Maybe such fiction was necessary, as we're tired of seeing victims of such crime never get real justice, so for once it's a change to see a victim gets back to their abuser/s... But here, the ex-victim now perpetrator, seems to take too much pleasure in taking revenge. He seems void of humanity and it'll be interesting to know why, how, he gets to this point (his real motives); like did the bullies messed with the wrong guy, is he really crazy, or does he intend to get at them ten fold what he (they?) did to him? I hope these questions will find their answers as we advance in the lecture and that this bl has more to offer than what we can see for the moment.
Where'd u read the novel? Link pls
I can't link, sorry, but go on:
Lilyonvalley.com
EMP (Empathy)
Lilyonthevalley.com
Thanks <3
The art is inconsistant since the start. That position of mc lying in the coffin, fold like a mannequin... is really not natural. He looks so small now and pitiful. The proportions are off...
If not for the tasteless porn, rape and 3m long D, the plot has potential despite being desultory. Maybe now we'll get some real actions (and not that 'kind' of actions again). Mc is combative, it'll be interesting to see how he'll get away from this whole situation, and not simply depend on that mf for his survivance even though I guess it'll be pretty much all we get from this story.