i mean, hangyeol is deeefinitely weird & manipulative. the way he talks is definitely in a way to take advantage of woojoo (ig his parents taught him well)
edit: i think due to an added emoji in my original comment, the rest of my comment was deleted, so i'll j do a tl;dr here (which is still going to be quite long)
1. while i believe hangyeol is wack, i don't like woojoo either. i hate how woojoo never clarified he was doing all this, including enjoying sex & being shy with hangyeol, all for the sake of suho
2. there is such an imbalance of reality & fiction considerations. this manhwa provides woojoo with SO MANY "technical" leeways. technically, woojoo was never dating suho, so who cares about who he's fucking right now? technically, they were dating only for 2 weeks & it was for the purpose of getting rid of woojoo's "trauma", so why should woojoo know hangyeol was serious about acting as though they're dating? technically, hangyeol is a weirdo & he never clarified with woojoo either, so why should woojoo? all of these are "technically", if you REALLY want to stand by your best friend who's clearly doing something bonkers & you shouldn't reallt support, on woojoo's side. but there is such an imbalance of fiction & reality. there's a "realistic" sense to it - of trauma, of technicalities. but be fr rn, it is so FICTIONAL to be THAT dense & naive (ntm lowkey, the trauma in this manhwa is p shaky & odd, so again, fictional). ntm there is NO sign of any neurodivergence by woojoo - it's j how the author has designed his character to be in such a 2d way & due to this, i j fucking hate his character & cannot stomach his behaviours. there's no REAL strong reason to stand by woojoo
3. i really like suho's character & i want him to be happy. i don't want him to go through confusion, disappointment, hurt, anger & sadness because the person he liked couldn't open up to him. i don't want him to become the target of hangyeol's hostility because woojoo couldn't fucking talk to hangyeol to respect suho. i want suho to be with someone who's not only clear about his feelings, but is in a position to protect suho, prove it to suho directly, & make suho feel loved
4. if any of y'all are gonna come up to say "oh! woojoo is doing all this for suho, so he loves him so much!" ... okay, &? does suho know? is this good for suho? does suho FEEL loved? none of you should be romanticising hurting your partners j because you think this is how you prove your love. the only person you're "proving" that you have feelings for is yourself. this is SUCH an insanely selfish take. you are protecting YOURSELF. while i agree you should always prioritise yourself, it should NEVER be at the expense of another person, especially someone who has loved & treated you kindly. if your partner doesn't know you love them, & is only hurt by your actions, is this REALLY for them?
i may have forgotten a lot of points because i haven't read this in a while, but does yeowoon's friend notice smth about his behaviour that indicates he's got some feelings for jigu that he hasn't unpacked yet? so far, i personally believe yeowoon's behaviour is j normal, but the way his friend is reacting & his last sentence makes me feel like there's sumn about yeowoon's feelings towards jigu too, & not solely j jigu's towards yeowoon
How I understand it is that the friend remembers MC had a lot of guys confess to him in the past (i.e. he "confuses" them lol), then puts 2 and 2 together that him and Jigu were acting close, and Jigu had a strong emotional reaction to something MC did.
Usually strong reactions like the one from Jigu are because a person really cares about you and the way you act toward them. So I think the friend is just kind of concluding on his own because of the two experiences.
yes, i understood the same! i was j wondering if at the end, his reaction of "this crazy bastard (i assume is about yeowoon/mc since yeowoon started going off on jigu). looking at them, it's only a matter of time." implicates yeowoon may have some sort of feelings towards jigu as well, & not only jigu towards yeowoon
i tried to zoom past this arc but it's already updated to the most... this arc is genuinely j so frustrating & hurts so much, omg. it feels like it's getting dragged on longer because of the sex like... Please... RESOLVE ISSUES FIRST...
more angry rant here but i j hate soohyuk. he's hot & all & i wanna get on my knees for him too, but the way he's j sooo disrespectful towards bum's relationship with yeonwoo is so frustrating & angering me sm. how can you be a best friend if you're screwing over their partner & purposefully making their partner insecure/upset? how can you say you love a person when you're trying to ruin a relationship you can see is making them happy? i am j SOOO angry with him. NTM IF HE J OPENED HIS MOUTH & CONFESSED THEN & THERE, WE'D BE OVER THIS GOD DAMN ARC THAT'S BEING DRAGGED ON FOR WAY TOO MANY CHAPTERS WITH SM FRAGMENTS IN BETWEEN. & yeonwoo, mg. what he did to bum was horrible & i hate angry sex. i'd rather we get another jumping from the roof scene than that. & honestly, i understand bum wants to protect yeonwoo's feelings but come on. if your partner is asking you MULTIPLE TIMES where you were back-to-back & re-confirming your location like... let's be real. everyone knows something is wrong. your partner knows something happened. hiding that is literally j going to hurt them even more & make the misunderstanding worst.
also, i'd j like to say i appreciate the fragments in between because that's how reality is - things pile up on you & your unprocessed past catches onto you while shit's still happening. the background story of yeonwoo is much loved & appreciated, it expands his character well. the ending of the expansion was abrupt, but i get it. that's how trauma is & it's unrealistic to suddenly be dumping allat to your not-long boyfriend in his family home while everyone's happy. i'm honestly j v upset & frustrated with having started the manhwa thinking i'll be having a good sleep tn & now i'm the most angry i've been in a long while, lol. ntm i always think like okay... this arc can't go on for THAT long considering how the story's progressed like, right? haha, boy was i WRONG. but i think that's j how the pacing with this story is. sm is happening & is added onto the more the story develops, everything is intertwined & explored in between, so it feels like the arc that i wish was already over is progressing slower. haihz... i'll j... stay away for now & come back when it has 80 chapters or smth... hopefully by then, i won't finish reading the latest update all angry again ;; i yapped sm because of how frustrated i am with the last chapter lol... 99% of this is mostly j me letting out my anger so it's likely incoherent & messy af, & maybe i have no ground/basis & i'm j mad & frustrated, lol
i understand everyone's frustrations & dislike with woojin's character portrayal. i personally believe he's wack & bonkers, there are a lot of psychological aspects to be uncovered, however this story was meant to be toxic anyhow & i personally feel as though it's not really allat bad compared to many other toxic love stories. additionally, the author is literally sick & had to delay many of the later chapters due to their health. i'm p sure the reason the story is lacking & the ending was v rushed was because of this. at least, thank you to the author for providing a closed &
happy ending. i appreciate all your hard work
j to be more clear - no, woojin's character is not okay & there are maaany signs of abuse by him. haegyung's friend herself stated woojin is similar to seunghyun, although their reasonings are different (& neither are good). it's j, there are A LOT of toxic stories where there's no redemption whatsoever except for "i can't believe you're leaving me now because i abused you & cheated on you... suddenly i miss you so much </3". i think compared to those, woojin isn't AS BAD because, putting aside the isolation & control of haegyung's daily plans, i think many of his actions were to protect haegyung - j done extremely wrongly
j to provide More Clarity (sorry, a v anxious time in my life is happening rn, lol), i understand i may have contradicted myself by saying many signs of abuse & then saying to put aside the isolation/control of haegyung's life - but because i believe woojin's "abuse" towards haegyung are primarily those. his other batshit crazy actions were towards others, granted in front of haegyung which could be classified as "abuse" as well - but again, that's where the intentions to protect haegyung comes about - j done so v wrongly. though, after his conversation with his father, it seems like his development in this area could be great, if the author gets well soon & wishes to continue writing jinx & explore the characters. regardless, again, this story was meant to be toxic anyhow. so... j another one i suppose
i fucking hate that loser ass bitch of a family. 1 deranged, control freak son wasn't good enough, you've got another fucking crazed, sadistic bastard in that nutjob family?