WickedLilith's Topics (380)

Shame. I get you but they're not exactly the same. You'll see that in 4-5 chapters from here. I hope you stick around for a while more because I promise you, you're gonna love the next chapter.

No! you're making it harder for me to wait for the next chapter!

Satan? Is that you? How much to reveal the final plot twist?

I have to agree with @J
I can promise you, you will not be on Law's team for long. Curiously got the better of me and I unlocked ch 50 and damn I actually regret buying it because despite not understanding a lick of Korean, Law legit freaked me out and now I can't get that lunatic blondie out of my head.

I just don't know, perhaps.

I am pretty sure Law will still have all of me. I know he's no saint But it won't change that Jesse rubs me the wrong way. I will always see him as the gasoline and Law will be Sthe match to burn it all. still #TeamLaw ;) lol

were the same

it makes me angry

Great minds do think alike after all. It pisses me off too!

They're both fucked up. But Jesse with memory wipe is fine I guess.

Are you saying Jesse as an adult w/o his memories is an okay guy? Ummm, you do realize that isn't his real personality? Is something conjured up? I rather take real whether it's good or bad. But maybe, that's just me.

where? LOL cus nodody(here) said Jesse is an innocent victim..plus the majority is not still even sure about Jesse's feelings( the majority thinks Law is the only one who is in love here)
I think people has more sympathize towards Jesse more cos he is just more honest about himself (contrary to Law)
Law(himself) admit Jesse said you what he wants without embellishing things.

manipulator,mean,rude? yeah probably Jesse is all these things but he never hides that. When Jesse play his games, he even give you options and don't force you to be his slave.
Jesse is like "Do you want to play this game with me? good, you will follow my rules but you better leave if you can't. That is Jesse.

While Law is a sly fox who keep doing "things" excusing himself with multiple excuses..he really acts as if he is not making some bad thing (just wait for more chapters/updates ,you will be see his fucked up nature/mind a bit more)
Law is the type of person who will do whatever to achieve his goals no matter what.
He wanted to put Jesse on Moritat no matter what,then he did it.
When Moritat projects ended on chapter 33, this clearly shows Law put Jesse on Moritat without his authorization. That's why Jesse was angry and ask him why.

So yeah,Jesse is not a saint at all but I can said Law is on other level of insanity. At this point I would not be surprised if this is Law who killed Jesse's parents order to achieve his big goal.

Lol you are entitled to believe what you want. Jesse did put Law under first w/o his consent too so, you're mad because Law returned the favor? I repeat Jesse is a master manipulator. Law learned how to play the game and people are pressed. The student became the teacher. Surpassed too? This is not to excuse Law But once again this is for the people thinking Jesse is innocent or the victim. If it doesn't apply to you, ignore it. Yes people do believe that. We still have yet to see what made Law completely shut down or if he was behind everything. Another level of insanity? Until the WHOLE story comes to light I wouldn't give him that title. And even so...¯_(ツ)_/¯

we can argue who more extreme from the other[both of them basically]. who worse then the other, while the reality is....they both turn out this way not from the air. it their Environment and family that made them be who they are, that teach them that it is a good thing to manipulate people - they are the worse people!. [Law family (︶︿︶)＝凸 fuck them!]
and people believe that cause of the first chapters, you can't erase them from your mind and say Jessa is horrible now bla bla bla. it doesn't work this way!!!
again, we started with Jessa POV and now we seen the other POV while knowing Jessa mind from the first chapters. to me, Jessa is brilliant and cruel. he always has a sharp mind, a sharp logic and thinking.
and while I can say both of them are the biggest manipulate people. I can get clearly why Jessa become this way, and why he's doing what he's doing. cause he is very honest about it. he know people will manipulate him, and they did in a cruel way. he was right in the end XD what is ironic.
and the difference between the case that Jessa pick his mind first - it was when he was much younger and more stupid.
while Law doing it while he's older and know what he's doing! so what is worse, to me is the the older case. it a very very very big difference!!! even if you deny it, and I"m not saying anyone here is better. just that the whole comparison is wrong in the first place.
I still like Jessa mind XD he is a genies after all for creating that machine from the first place. so yeas, it is a very good comic for showing us that bad and good is not that easy to say in life. both of them were the worse!

I get your point of view But you see, I see it differently. I think it's much worse for a young kid to be able to manipulate, be calculating and cold at such a young age (Most serial killers begin this way ) Lol. Means he's better at it. You expect that from adults not a kid. It s much scarier to me anyway.

I get your point of view But you see, I see it differently. I think it's much worse for a young kid to be able to manipulate, be calculating and cold at such a young age (Most serial killers begin this way ) Lol. Means he's better at it. You expect that from adults not a kid. It s much scarier to me anyway. Law learned as the years went by. You're right, that is a big difference. All I know is both have been groomed to be the way they are. I just think it's unfair to make Law the only bad boy here. We all know better. x) Oops I posted to myself like a noob. Lol

actually this topic come out in Danganronpa Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls, and show this topic much batter!!!
basically children, cause they young and pure tend and can be even more cruel then adults are. they have the possibility to enjoy killing animals, bullying, judging others, hurt them and hate them without even thinking about it or feel guilty or get that it is a bad thing then after they grow up and get married.
has young you are, the limits you have is less. which means, if you don't have those limits, with the environment the crueler you are. and yeas, some children, I seen a fucking 8 years old talking and look at others like they are trash! so yeas, the younger you are, the bigger the chance you can do much cruel things then after you grow up and learn that it is bad.
but that is also differences that children that are cruel can learn and get batter from what they were unlike the adults. they can change! unlike adults that it very hard for them to change [anime that show this was "Kodomo no Omocha" much more then the manga. with the teacher that decided that one kid in his class is "bad" cause of his past and treat him like he is a devil.]
of course the family can be at fault too, but I think that adult that know the limits and still doing it is much worse then the younger and stupid kid that just wanted attention and to try this new toy he created. but that is only my opinion XD
and in this case, after Jessa grow up we didn't seen much of his manipulate thing like he was when he was younger. well there was that maids case, but that cause the maids just wanted to fuck with him soo....yeas. actually he seem much more kind then he was when he was younger maybe? yeas he still clingy has fuck and possessive, but that help him feel not alone or a tool I guess. and Law like it XD I"m not saying Jessa is an angel, he still the manipulate cruel genies I come to love ^^ but not that much manipulate like Law is been now. since he show him his weaknesses what Law took to use for his benefit very fast.
Jessa could have get much more manipulate then he was when he was younger, but he didn't. so give him some slack and get that this is their Relationship, a circle of manipulation of the other without mercy or guilt, they both doing it when the other putting his guard down.
so I mostly blame the parents!!! they don't deserve to have children!!!

Exactly what I was thinking while reading this ahaha

Yeahh, exactly.

At least we tried! Lol

They can't say we didn't give it a shot, but... x)

It's actually on hiatus for years now but a new chapter will come out in Japan next month. The schedule is no longer regular though, it just comes whenever Ayano sensei will want to put out a chapter. If you noticed, each volume always talks about a "most awaited return", that's because it usually stops every volume arc.

Yikes! Thanks for the 411! Sensei's passion for the manga is dwindling? Why continue to draw it out so much? Hmmm I love her work and creativity But my patience is not the same anymore. （￣へ￣）Lol

Its because we are getting old in age waiting for main storyline to be released..patience has gone out the window with father time.lmao

(●'◡'●)ﾉ Preach! Lol

please do realize that Siwon has been endlessly tortured by the dreams Jun has been forcing on him. I personally think that Siwon isn't really homophobic but more upset that Jun is trying to break their friendship... or something along those lines

OMG YES!!!

Tortured how? He was showing him what happened. I know he is confused But that doesn't give him any right to say the hurtful things he says to Jun! Especially since he claims he loved him as a childhood friend. Siwon wants to be angry, fine, But once again putting someone down for who they are sexually isn't. He is in denial and can't accept what he is as well. That is one of the main reasons Jun acts the way he does.

High ten!

I'm with you on that.

Jun disappeared for 11 years and didn't even tell Siwon what happened or who he even is.
He left Siwon in questions but never stopped chasing after him.

Siwon is straight (at least for now haha), how would he react to a gay man trying to chase after him? He declines.

Jun is like the smart asshole in class, if he really likes Siwon, treat him better but THAT RUDE.

A gay asshole trying to rape a straight boy who didn't know he was his childhood friend... and the victim is blamed? gosh.

Siwon is in denial I agree, both of them are. However, if I were him I won't even try to cope with a rude 'stranger'.

I apologize for rude language. No homophobic ideas intended. Pls don't get triggered.

He's just confused

^^^^^^^^^^This person gets it!!!!

Ditto to Ayame! Besides, the victim should never be blamed in a rape situation

You didn't trigger me but Siwon surely did. Lol Let's get something straight. (No pun intended) There has been no rape as of yet therefore Jun hasn't "raped" Siwon so no "victim" blaming here. When they made out whether Siwon was under the influence or not was Consensual. Once again no rape. Yes Jun is being a bit forceful and aggressive even when talking. Still that does NOT give Siwon the right to use homophobic slurs. You can turn someone down w/o the slurs...And I did say, "If the mangaka makes Jun force himself on this whiny ass in denial wimp I am done!!!" As in rape definitely isn't right either also, "Jun isn't innocent" and I am sure that one is pretty clear. Jun isn't a stranger and by now Siwon knows this. Jun has issues which Siwon knows because mommy tried to kill him then killed herself. Not an excuse just facts. Once again Siwon can be mad/confused and turn down angry crazy aggressive liar "stranger" w/o using homophobic slurs. That is my main point here. People have died for such hurtful words being said to them just as rape has done. (Which Jun hasn't done)

Rape or no rape depends on how you define sex,

Spoiler alert!!!













How would you feel if someone you liked and trusted tied you up? Then did what Jun did to Siwon? I don't know about you, but I would see that as rape. I'm not trying to argue with you, just want you to see my point on this rape part.

Once again that is not my point. My point under the comment I made mas specifically talking about homophobic slurs. Not about rape. One thing definitely does not nullify another. Rape is never okay and I never said it was...If homophobic slurs is okay by the lot of you then Yaoi isn't for any of you. Find where I condoned rape??? I clearly stated "Jun isn't innocent" and "If the mangaka makes Jun force himself on this whiny ass in denial wimp I am done!!!". Where am I condoning rape??? I am entitled to MY opinion as you are all too. Jun hasn't gone that far. What I don't appreciate is people dismissing what I wrote and putting words into my mouth. I see the wrong Jun has done and have not given him a free pass But I still can't stand what Siwon has been on numerous occasion saying about Jun's sexual preference. He tied him up (Once) because he finally snapped due to all the nastiness out the other's mouth on numerous occasions. Not an excuse at all btw. How would you like it if someone you loved and trusted kept calling you a perverted faggot? Especially after you made out in the past? Last time I checked and by experience of my own eyes you don't make out with someone gay, if you're "straight", due to being drunk. Siwon is in denial too. And no that doesn't give Jun the right to be forceful. Look I am not going to keep going around in circles. In the end people will side either with Jun or with Siwon. You are entitled to dislike Jun as I am to dislike Siwon for whatever reason. And you're definitely most right about defining rape. Now I need some tea. Lol (●'◡'●)ﾉ P.s to be honest they shouldn't end up together. Jun should get counseling for his anger and mommy issues and find someone who isn't in denial. Siwon should get counseling about being homophobic and then get with a girl. That would be a realistic ending!

Lol, but are manga ever realistic?

Not for the most part. Lol But it doesn't make it any less real to us. I mean here we are discussing it like we're watching reality TV (⌒▽⌒) and we all know how real they are.

so does that mean Jesse saw Law coming from his windows and scared the maid exactly when Law came? Idk it just looked like an accident to me. It didn't look like Jesse had planned it to see Laws reaction.

jesse looked pretty hurt when law insinuated that jesse attacked/ tried to force the maid so i think it was an accident, too