Girl how do we delete this I love this webtoon it's one of the few I've bought in full but it's available in other places if you wanna pirate it, do you really need to risk the site going down again??
Tell me if you get know cause if this site gets deleted we are cooked
I feel like although this story is cute by the end it is basically a completely different story from the one in the beginning. Not just the art but the whole isekai part was removed and alongside it the vibe is totally different!
I mean the mc *SPOILER*
being the reincarnation of the goddess makes no sense if we take the "original" version of the story at face value, not just cause she dies but also her being a sort of petty villainess is completely at odds with what she was supposed to be at the end. And if the story was meant to end the way it did, then does that mean someone interfered in the previous version..? And I don't get her saying she "pretended" to be in a novel because that would still not make sense since she got isekai'ed from "our" world. Idk it just feels like many parts of the story got clumsily skipped over and a bunch of plotholes are just left behind. I did like the story for what it is but it makes me take it less seriously and takes some of my excitement away...
i don’t think she was the reincarnation of the goddess, i think it was just prophesied that she would inherit the goddess’ powers because her mother was a magician and the floyen family have the protection of the goddess passed down to them, if that makes sense? i definitely agree that a lot of the lore was skimmed or dumbed down, especially when the novel part was explained in only one single sentence where legis said “oh your mother probably made up the novel part to protect you from your traumatic memories” like hello, more explanation please?? i think it’s similar to “villains are destined to die” where penelope’s consciousness was split apart so many times that the current tl version of her ended up in modern korea, but that soul from modern korea is still the penelope from the “game” (again if any of this makes sense). i just wish the lore and setting up for the final battle was more thought out, instead of making readers make sense of it on their own…
I bet Gjord kicked some sort of fuss to get that previous sorcerer out because they think the meds they gave the mc are making him lose memories or any of the other weird side effects that make him meek and compliant. I don't trust Lisbet's reaction to the new meds either. Seems sus as fuck. Though it is upsetting to think that this means she's being nice to him also partly out of guilt. Which makes Lister... a monster. This fuck basically is getting off on having all this power, probably because he had an inferiority complex before. Ugh makes me gag
wtf is up with the random other manga who did thissssss
I think sometimes we don't realize that in most cultures we have pretty fucked up ideas about raising children, where they are easily seen as the potential to be "a person" instead of a person who is already "becoming", or as an extension of their parents, while the parent's word is often forcefully the equivalent of God's to them. How often do societies reward children for obeying versus learning to exercise their own critical judgement?
It's a rough relationship, yet honestly I can't say I don't know people who haven't been in Shima-kun's shoes. I am curious as to what happened between his mom being this control freak hellbent on making her child a successful star and the meek person she is now who looks terrified to do something to get on his bad side.
it's disturbingly realistic, the depiction of abuse. It's not that the prick is upset that he's afraid of him, he's excited. His desire is all about power and manipulation, all fueled by his own fragile ego and inferiority complex. The fact that Sylvan is afraid of him just gave him more power to take his abuse further, yet giving himself as many excuses as needed for why what he's doing is not abuse.
Some people are so oblivious to their own vices that they turn like that the minute they learn they can get away with it. What makes it all the more tragic is how Lisbeth is so ignorant of it, only knowing his good side. Makes one sick, really. What I want to know is whether he basically is feeding him these meds that make him forget because he wanted him to forget his lover and it was all a ploy for him and his sister to take over. Ughhhhh soooo disturbinggg
WAIIIIIIT YOU MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING IN THAT LAST PARAGRAPH. I'mma keep my eye on you
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS NOW???
THATS WHAT I AM SAYING (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ THE CLIFFHANGER
ikr I was like THIS BISHOUNEN BETTER BE A GREEN FLAG AND HELP HER OUT THO WE'VE NEVER HEARD OF HIM BEFORE!
I don't understand something Alicia says to Oscar and then thinks to herself, if anyone who got it can enlighten me. The official chapter on Tappytoons says the same stuff so I don't get if it's a translation error.
When she asks why didn't he just force himself on Inez to test him by his response, she has what seems like a flashback? And she thinks to herself something like "he wouldn't have done what he did if he had loved her anyway" "no man would ever destroy a woman he loves like that".
I don't get if that scene is her memory (as in she was violated by oscar), a hypothesis she made, or her witnessing or knowing something else. At first I thought it was her imagining something, but it kinda looks more like a flashback, and her words don't make much sense. Or is she referring to the fact that he tried to kill Carcel? Doesn't she know Oscar's a psycho? I was thinking that there's a weird chance, she remembers their first life and remembers Inez's treatment..? Idk there's many possibilities and I can't tell if it's vague because of translation error or on purpose.
I think those were images to the question she was asking Oscar. Like to make it graphic. What I don’t understand is about Ines having his son. Why does she needs to be married to have his illigimate child? She can still do it while being single if he abused her and made everyone know
If I got it right, Ines needs to be married to be separated from her family. Once she is married, the only one who can protect her is her husband. He plans to kill her husband so he can have her. Once he has her, he wants her to give birth to his kid. (That idk why, probably because he thinks she's the best/noblest?)
If she was NOT married, her brother or father could protect her from the king. I'm pretty sure they've hurt him in previous lives. Also, he knows she remembers so he's trying to make it so she can't escape him.
Yeah I re-read a couple times and figured it out. I think it is afterall her thinking of the scenario of him violating Inez in public space and making sure people knew. What I got confused by is the rest of their dialogue in combination to that scene, and I think Alicia did refer to him trying to kill Carcel, not just because she loves him but also because that would have left Inez quite vulnerable socially speaking (which only fits tbh because she's also delusional about what a psycho Oscar is). And that matches to the fact that because Oscar is aware that Inez remembers their past, he is basically trying to isolate her social standing and cut off her resources like @XXX says. Even the weird fact about how "when" she bears him a child (ugh disgusting) she can't be a virgin because again the child should not be able to hold much power, like his half sister.
The freaky shit about all this is that maybe then he has some sorta long term plan to make her be with him but tbh he's probably highly delusional anyway and obsessively thinks they are destined to be together so like most abusers he's probably gonna try and pull some sorta "look I've changed!" bs. Also btw Dante Ihar who was supposed to be on the Prince's side and kind of against Carcel's family is doing interesting background shit. He told Alicia about the assassination attempt (in which the prince tried to fuckin frame his family for) and also warned Inez when that worm asked her to attend that event. Hmmmmmm...
I'm so looking forward to us getting back to Carcel's pov since we left him when he remembered something from the past and was gonna go meet Emiliano. Feels like then a bomb will go off.
Sorry Idk why but I'm lowkey obsessed with this webtoon these days and my head is going crazy overthinking everything lol.
Omg thanks so much it all makes sense now.
I don't get why this went viral it's pretty badly written. Most people are caricatures and all of it is so divorced from reality already without the alien that it all doesn't really matter..
I meant to dislike
lol
You got disliked to hell but I agree with you actually lol. Grief pirn, everyone's lives are the absolute worth they could possibly be and then they inflicted the absolute worst on others. It's a shame its told in such extremes because grounding it a bit more could result in something special...oh well!
eh, Im fine with being a hater and I think if some people had this story resonate with them and disagree with me, I mean good for them!
I think the author is writing more with "vibes" in mind and trying to tell something interesting but it falls flat because as you said it's not really grounded in human reality in any way but it's all in extremes. Like, if you have a naive alien trying to improve some kids' lives fucked up doraemon style, only for it to find out the rough way that its intentions are not enough, that's a decent premise. However none of the people in this story have believable problems or react to them realistically. I'm not saying you cant go extreme, but then you need to make it believable. And I'm sorry but half the things that happen here I do not buy no matter the angle. Like it's not that kids in this story are drawn to extremes because of their inability to process their environments, because the adults are even more extreme than them. And the adults are either completely absent or sadistically cruel, or supposedly went mad from one day to the next with no explanation. If the point of the manga was just to be dark and edgy I'd say okay fine, but that's not what it's trying to do, it's trying to say something about human suffering and the undeserved cycles of violence people fall into, and it's just not good enough at doing that. Also, what's up with the octopus alien being some sorta jesus metaphor, literally absolving their suffering by sacrificing himself and everything is magically solved, like what?? It freaking dyed for their sins like stoppppp I cant-
I could go on and on but I don't think anyone would care, not even me tbh but thanks for agreening haha