And I'll tell you why I said that.
I mean sure I understand where the authors come from but seriously I don't see any jap manga artist doing this. I'm gonna actually get off manhwa. I only got here cuz the art drew me in and there were some very intriguing stories but I can't keep handling this drama of oh "It's illegal to upload if it ain't official" ummm... I'm sorry if my mum's not Madonna level open minded and I'm not born in Gangnam . I don't have the money or the parent support to buy the content. I'm sorry if this seems like a rant. But I guess we're all feeling the same since we're all in the same boat here. And I hate it when people say if you can't afford it don't buy, gurl dont tell me you never watched something of an illegal site or read something of an illegal site cuz societal norms and an expensive expenditure. Excuse you, for that hypocrisy right there. And don't get me wring I understand what the authors are doing I understand, but I don't support it. How are you gonna expand your reach to millions of people, cuz we all know the reasons why content like manga and manhwa gets traction is mainly cuz it's read ILLEGALLY,and the ones who enjoy your content when finally can afford actually go do that. I don't see no manga writers going hey, don't post that, it's cuz they bloody we'll know that fandom and the (actual spending) supporters grow only when there is reach. I know some y'all gonna come for me. But I got to say what I gotta say. And if you're gonna say put yourself in that authors shoes Lemme tell you I'm a manga artist and an author and Im not even able to get a publisher yet. So yes I understand struggle. So I have been in worse shoes than those polished one that you want me to put myself in. Don't tell me killing stalking would've rocked the stage, or BJ Alex or painter in the night would be so popular amongst international readers if it wasn't also found on sites like this. The support the authors got officially generally sky rockets when the content gets popular on sites like this, cuz there are kid out there with very fortunate wallets and very accepting societies that do afford this the legal way. The other ones like me who love the content try and work our asses off on jobs just so we can but maybe a volume or a chapter so we can support the author our own way and Blimey we do. It takes time cuz there are kids on this site, unlike the budding adult I'm becoming. And it's not even like WEBTOON these sites where they publish, I can't use one account I'm literally using a loophole to buy a chapter per week and if you wanna call that support I guess you can. But like I said. Manga artists don't cause as the drama as the manhwa ones do. They just inherently understand that reach is better this way and support will come with popularity. You don't see ishida, Araki or isayama okay they are shonen fine let's do shojo you don't see nanashi, oda or even miyajima; wanna talk yaoi authors..? Fine let's see do you see Nakamura, asumiko or kizu doing this do you? No. It's generally manhwa authors. I guess the concept of 2000 is when you can really have anything not on the internet has not yet seeped it. No matter what anyone does it's simple readers will find a way to obtain it the way they want to obtain it. There is always a digital illegal copy of their content floating no matter the lawsuits or the lawyers. It's the world we live in the times we live in. And that is understood a lot more by manga authors.
Okay end of rant.
Come at me.
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Man I agree with you manhwa authors really are so dramatic like many manga are here and mangaka are not even complaining .....as long as this site is here Im ready to sacrifice some manhwa like seriously some manhwa authors are acting like bitches and also warning for lawsuit I mean why man they gotta be so rude the author of banana scandal was also so rude....and now lucky paradise is also taken back I hate this honestly like love is an illusion, bj Alex, cherry blossoms after winter are all popular cuz of illegal sites like this I also buy the chapters to support authors I understand them but some are being rude af for no reason istg im not reading their manhwas again
idk abt any other sites but for lezhin the deadlines are rlly strict, n even if they do get it on time there’s no guarantee that they even get half of the money which can be very very stressful.
Also ur argument kinda gets lot bc mangas r less likely to be uploaded online than they are to have physical copies. Manga authors get their money from physical copies n bc ppl r more interested n having physical copies for like collections or stuff ppl buy them more. I’m not Korean so idk the situation in Korea but from my standpoint in international selling or trading or whatever I barely see any physical copies of manhwa since a lot of them are online, where they can be screenshotted n added into sites like this
I'd agree to your argument about physical copies 10 years ago. It's not valid anymore. They get payed based in copies sold physically or digitally. A lot of mangakas do have their own sites but so do most manhwa authors these days. It's all right I understand there is nothing brude to what you have out out here. Let me clarify since I am in the industry.
Deadlines are very strict everywhere. Even on viz and even more for mangakas. Especially mangakas who's work gets published in magazines like shonen jump etc.
Also. The argument here is a bit tad off. Since physical copies actually get less traction in this day and age. Since most of us deal with storage issues. Most mangas these days have become digitally popular.
About the pay I'd say the pay isnt great for anyone in this business. But that's solely on the site and the publisher. Since there is always publishing fees and editing fees etc to be payed and generally that's where the scam begins(and dontbget me wring but even we choose popular sites because of the marketting strategies they have)
we generally try and find other means also to increase popularity like merch or artwork or patreon etc. Also these days sites do try and pay well to artists, and from what I've heard lehzin pays well.
Also mangakas make money off physical copies - let me expand in that, several times in Japan one guy buys the manga and passes it on. It's a share culture especially if you're in the same community, (quite like here isn't it, mangago. We share because we have similar tastes), my older partner used to live in Japan previously and his mates all used to die for Tokyo ghoul and the opm mangas, and it was common culture there to share mangas.
It's alright I hope I wasn't rude though I sound like an asshole. I hope I clarified stuff a bit.
i hope you know that mangakas publish physical copies of their works and physical copies bring more more money than digital ones. plus, those volumes are even translated into diff languages not to mention they have weekly magazines too aside from digital releases. Meanwhile, manhwa authors rarely publish their works into physical copies and only serialize their works digitally. its so weird comparing kr authors to jp authors esp jp mangakas whose works cater to almost everybody. theyre totally different from these kr authors who write mature content.
I agree. I discovered manhwa/manhua/manga through this site. I already have a job but I can't afford paying/reading through the site because it's really pricey plus there is still pandemic. Still, I was able to support some authors like the author of Cherry Blossoms After Winter by buying some of their official goods. I mean, if it wasn't for this site, I wouldn't discover that amazing story and I wouldn't be able to support the author in a different way aside from buying chapters. I also agree that these manhwa authors are soooo fucking dramatic.
thank you bestie, im in quite the same position, i spent 4 years and a ton of money on a design degree and now im basically living off my parents until i graduate. i have gotten hate from commentors who generally all go like but the authors need support , if you cant afford it then you should'nt read and im here like thats what im trynna do, i wouldn't even know they existed if it wasnt for this medium. like more than half their reader base would'nt know.
https://twitter.com/lovaluvluv/status/1415988948099158018?s=19
Here, they want Pearl boy and Painter of the night next
sheesh man i just saw such hypocrites, every fucking mofo starts off with an illegal site in our community, or at some point has used an illegal site to consume the anime and manga media, the absolute contradiction with their actions and their comments seriously, entitles mofos, (I just saw the tweets, it triggered the shit out of me, pardon my language, this is why I don't go on twitter)
Lol. These people on twitter acting like they are so holy but I guarantee these people are 100% pirating some form of media. You're telling me they never watch ANY anime from non official source? Never listen to ANY kpop/jpop/cpop/whatever on youtube except the official MV? Never watched their favorite K-Variety shows from any source except the official? Kdrama/jdrama/cdrama/any series/movie whatever? Bullshit.
And you're on point about manga>manhwa. I admit there's a few manhwa that I really like and will continue to support even if it's no longer on this site but I've never had any interest to read Banana Scandal, Blind Play, Love for sale, Painter of the Night and have zero interest to look for any new manhwa series. Top in Lezhin means nothing when even the smallest Japanese BL can get book release meanwhile even top manhwa struggle to do so. That's how big the disparity of income is between JP and KR manga artist. And yet its KR who always raging. Whatever. I'll just keep supporting the JP series I like and am staying away from manhwa now.
Yeah I totally understand your point I agree I even bought every chapter of most manhwa I read to support authors cuz I know they do hard work... But man I got to know that manhwa through illegal sites ppl promote their work and also tells to read on only legal sites and suddenly the authors send notes to threat lawsuit and court ....its just so disturbing but they are the owners so as they wish we just gotta read something else.... ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Damnn finally someone said ittt. Like c'mon you prob wouldn't even know the yaoi genre if it wasn't for a random tik tok vid or a friend who mentioned this or any other illegal site. I would gladly offer my money to creators I support but honey, there is NO moneyyy. Excuse me for having the decency to not spend my mother's money on yaoi which is literally gay animated p*rn when I'm scared to death to come out as gay MYSELF(toxic homophobic household unfortunately)and knowing our financial state. Many people say about free coins and stuff but keeping my mangago account secret is hard enough, let alone a l£zhīñ one that could ask for money at any time . I just wanna read my fave stories and escape reality for a while but oh wellp I guess I'm getting criticized for that by some toxic and unstable authors like YD (Bl*nd Pl**)
Are you fucking kidding me now? Fucking hell. Damn. Why cant... You know what I any got another job just so Incan spend on buying chapters and manga. It's not great pay but I can afford maybe a few chapters a week. I hope they don't remove this. But if they do I'm just gonna have to work to pay and read cuz my dumb ass can't stand being bloody empty shelled curious about the story.
That's all o feel when I read this story. No one is right and no one is wrong. Everyone is suffering except I don't feel bad about youngwoo I would feel terrible for him too if I didn't know about the shit he pulled.
But truly everyone in this story just suffers and suffers and suffers and suffers.
It's so heart wrenching, it actually hurts to read this but I can't stop. I need to see how this ends.
SPILL THE TEA ALREADY YOU TWO. i so wish this was fantasyso we could've had a character like the suriel from acotar spilling everyone's secrets like spices during the spice fest. UGH JUST CONFESS YOU IDIOTS