hey hEY HEY December 26, 2020 12:16 pm

i know i know, it wasnt sudden really BUT it wasnt explicitly stated, heavily implied yes... but not explicitly stated.

so im running off to the hills believing its the yakuza guy and not kiku-chan nyaha.

why? because it doesnt fit the characters imo.

i hardly doubt that kiku would see konatsu like that, however similar she is with miyo or sukeroku. instead, shouldnt that be the main reason he wouldnt lay his hands on them? still stuck on their deaths and haunted by their presence, he would feel guilt and be more haunted by his sins. cause im pretty sure he would feel guilty after they did the deed.

but thats my interpretation, dont blast me lolol. i just dont like incest in any forms of media. lolol

    butchdykerights December 28, 2020 8:11 pm

    hey if it makes you guys feel better+helps to resolve anything:

    you need to read the omake of volume 10 to find out (it's in my google drive so i am happy to share with anyone!) but it HEAVILY IMPLIES that Kiku/Yakumo is NOT the father! i will explain below:

    essentially it goes back to when konatsu was a teenager and Kiku is talking to the yakuza boss. She gets into a lot of fights and goes out late with guys a lot. Kiku doesn't know how to deal with her and has been ignoring her for a while. why? because Kiku has realised that she started developing feelings for him and it disgusts and distresses him. he blames himself for not acting enough like a parent, he feels guilty like he did something to make her see him like this. this is when he started pushing her away and being extremely cold and mean to her, and this is when she started acting out, hoping for any kind of attention from him. this is where/why their relationship broke down and was so strange. the impression from the yakuza boss was that he felt sorry for Kiku and saw Konatsu as a child.


    it's also why Konatsu refused to answer the author's question of "is the child yakumo's?" because she had feelings for him until the end. he never reciprocated it, and there is some circumstantial evidence from the mangaka that he is gay.

    it's likely that the child is from some unknown guy who she had a one-night stand with and not from Yakumo or the yakuza boss. remember that a running theme in the series has always been truth and the manipulation/concealment of it

    butchdykerights December 28, 2020 8:11 pm

    hey if it makes you guys feel better+helps to resolve anything:

    you need to read the omake of volume 10 to find out (it's in my google drive so i am happy to share with anyone!) but it HEAVILY IMPLIES that Kiku/Yakumo is NOT the father! i will explain below:

    essentially it goes back to when konatsu was a teenager and Kiku is talking to the yakuza boss. She gets into a lot of fights and goes out late with guys a lot. Kiku doesn't know how to deal with her and has been ignoring her for a while. why? because Kiku has realised that she started developing feelings for him and it disgusts and distresses him. he blames himself for not acting enough like a parent, he feels guilty like he did something to make her see him like this. this is when he started pushing her away and being extremely cold and mean to her, and this is when she started acting out, hoping for any kind of attention from him. this is where/why their relationship broke down and was so strange. the impression from the yakuza boss was that he felt sorry for Kiku and saw Konatsu as a child.


    it's also why Konatsu refused to answer the author's question of "is the child yakumo's?" because she had feelings for him until the end. he never reciprocated it, and there is some circumstantial evidence from the mangaka that he is gay.

    it's likely that the child is from some unknown guy who she had a one-night stand with and not from Yakumo or the yakuza boss. remember that a running theme in the series has always been truth and the manipulation/concealment of it (●'◡'●)ノ

    butchdykerights December 28, 2020 8:21 pm

    sorry for double sending my wifi was bad:

    this is the "gay kiku" so called evidence, the mangaka specifically put him and only him in for a Japanese expo about LGBT characters in manga.

    https://twitter.com/KUMOHARU/status/1132975043506462725

    hey hEY HEY December 28, 2020 8:49 pm

    MMMMM THANK YOU SO KUCH for the clarification. truly a godsend you are, my friend bless you. may 2021 be a wondeful year for u

    ojousamaa February 19, 2021 12:38 pm
    hey if it makes you guys feel better+helps to resolve anything:you need to read the omake of volume 10 to find out (it's in my google drive so i am happy to share with anyone!) but it HEAVILY IMPLIES that Kiku/... butchdykerights

    Yes thank you! Cause i dont think kiku can just disregard his feeling for Hatsuro to make a child with his daughter. Idk his feeling is that light and that what makes me cry. The heaviness of his heart to Hatsuro

    butchdykerights February 22, 2021 3:55 pm
    Yes thank you! Cause i dont think kiku can just disregard his feeling for Hatsuro to make a child with his daughter. Idk his feeling is that light and that what makes me cry. The heaviness of his heart to Hatsu... ojousamaa

    yea! so i found my google drive link which i will include below; but i think i may have figured out who the biological father of shinnosuke is, or who i suspect it to be. I feel like without a doubt, the father is Mangetsu.

    here's why i believe this:

    - in chapter 3, he asks yotaro about konatsu and in that conversation goes on to say that:
    1) he's been to the house
    2) he lived around the area while begging yakumo to take him on as an apprentice
    3) talked about konatsu like they were more than acquaintances saying that he "would go mad with jealousy" because yotaro got to live with her

    - we don't know for certain when he was living around the area, but if the timing was fairly short, then he could have been there around the time of conception

    - shinnosuke looks exactly like him. and to me the kicker is MYOPIA/NEARSIGHTEDNESS! the daughter of yotaro and konatsu does not wear glasses. being nearsighted is a genetic trait. neither miyokichi nor sukeroku wore glasses or required them, and hence neither does konatsu. yakumo wore reading glasses for far-sightedness as he got older (which is a common part of aging) but he never required glasses in his youth, and hence never had myopia.

    who is the only character in the series with myopia? mangetsu. shinnosuke also looks just like him. hence it's more likely than not that the biological father of shinnosuke is mangestu. konatsu probably didn't want to get together with her, because from the way he spoke, he seemed to be interested in her only for the relationship she had to sukeroku and yakumo.



    https://docs.google.com/document/d/17tCeZ6hVS4wRhDDvKlsYK3dnm1qhsS5oZwqXPGX4DsE/edit?usp=sharing

    ojousamaa February 22, 2021 4:03 pm

    Thanks. I’m crying thanks for replying to both of my comments

hey hEY HEY December 19, 2020 6:09 pm

FUCK TACHIHARA. vitchass thought he could get that ass once he exposed, boohoo instead he just dropped his chances to zero.



LMAO I KNOW THAT THIS IS A COMEDY, i just gate it when love 'rivals' do this. LIKE USE YER BRAIN???ah idiots

hey hEY HEY December 17, 2020 11:04 pm

he wasnt shown nor did he talked, but i felt so sad for him LMAOOOO.
the seme didnt even bother to whisper, he just went on and on loudly lololol.

i enjoyed the 1st couple more than the 2nd bc the seme just aint hitting it. idk why but his approaches are giving me "straight guy just trying it out cuz he's curious" vibes. maybe just me? but ig i just dont feel the luvin from him lol.

any F in the chat for the taxi driver herhaw ( ̄∇ ̄")

hey hEY HEY December 9, 2020 2:06 pm

FINALLY!
well tbh it was kinda obvious www,the teacher and the PO was a bit too on the nose to be rum, with how much the 'oh they sus' framing for them happened both in anime and in manga it just felt kinda, eh when compared to sushi guy lol.

considering gosho said it was out of the three, having one being out of the spotlight seemed kinda obvious lolollolololololol

hey hEY HEY December 2, 2020 6:03 pm

they look so pretty but so expensive TT

    juuulya December 17, 2020 9:37 am

    Wait, that’s a name I never expected to read on this site...

    hey hEY HEY December 17, 2020 4:32 pm
    Wait, that’s a name I never expected to read on this site... juuulya

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

hey hEY HEY November 25, 2020 12:46 am

lets look at this from a proper experimental value. its a psychological experiment that focuses on brain activity and social relationships.

safe word and proper debriefing. though the experimenters did brief the participants properly (not giving away the aim of the study to not create any demand characteristics) there should've been a safe word or something so that participants could show their reluctance or refusal.

this may result into participants backing out quickly however this creates an urealistic approach of the situation. considering how unrealistic the situation is outside of a bdsm scene that lacked aftercare or consent, the data is not ecologically valid.

since we dont see anything after the 3rd day, we dont know if the participants were debriefed or not. but i highly suspect they werent. debriefing is when the experimenters reveal the true aim of the study after the aforementioned time period. this debriefing period would also mean that the experiment do the 'aftercare' portion, assuring all aspect of health be OK as to not harm the individuals.


but hey its fictional, its not meant to be realistic. im just nitpicking lolol

hey hEY HEY November 24, 2020 7:51 pm

out of the three books and the three brothers, da silva is my fave no doubt. he treated with the ML with respect and was patient, his prejudice wad justified and wasnt exaggerated or overdramatic like his brothers.

ABSOLUTELY GLAD THERE WAS NO BABIES. ive been on a josei reading spree and almost ALL stories has pregnancy-> marriage situations that's makes my blood boil.


in conclusion, eldest siblings usually have more Brain cells and respect juice.

(jkjkjk)

hey hEY HEY November 24, 2020 3:21 pm

yaoi from the 90s and the early 2000s really be having rape, dubcon, incest and intense age difference that i just feel very cleansed when normal yaoi from that era appears.

i dont really like chapter 4 story (mukahi x yukiyanagi) simply because of how stupid it was? lololol

im fine with him getting annoyed and pissed at a kid, though i think it was a bit too much? though if there was some back story aside that he was jealous maybe i wouldve been by his side. though everything worked out at the end so das good. i liked the couple alot, they're actually my favourite out of 3.

kids are piece of shiz yall, cant let your guard down.

though i think in context of how ridiculous the story it with its humour, the stupid fight fits right in.

thoroughly enjoyed the manga, it was a solid read with a good cast. maybe a bit too outdated/ cringey? them yaoi hands are BIG lolol

hey hEY HEY November 24, 2020 12:30 pm

i enjoyed the series, i was really rooting for a poly but i was satisfied at the end. micchan is a good friend, i really thought he was gonna stop the two from being together but then i realize that he treasures both of them so im ヾ(☆▽☆).

i enjoyed all of them! but i absolutely love the love letter chapter. lemme say this, its not kotera's fault. as he said, he told his friends to go away and couldn't stop them. think of it from his perspective, he doesnt remember the guys face and also felt guilty afterwards. he couldnt have searched and apologize to azuma during his school years.
im amazed that he confessed instead of being immensely guilty... just love them so much TT. not only that he did say that it may have had a different ending if those guys wasnt there.

i wish micchan the best of luck in his future relationships! he deserves a happy and wonderful one (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

hey hEY HEY November 14, 2020 10:46 pm

he hooked up with a lot of girls, yeah but like he's just doing it for pleasure. he wasnt even aware of his own feelings until keito exploded. so ngl no harm was done to anyone.

yall might be mad at keito for technically leading masayuki on for like 3 years but i dont think keito actually confessed to masayuki. masayuki may have given hints but never downright said it and keito prob caught on but didnt want to make things awkward (he said it himself).

and i want a shinya x masayuki extra/ series, wanna get more angst uwu

    LadyHekate November 15, 2020 3:47 am

    I agree with you partly. Masayuki was definitely led on, but he didn't also made it really, as in really clear that he's serious. It became some sort of an inside joke, or a comfortable 'elephant in the room' idea that they got used to and didn't talk about seriously.

    And Hating Gino for having partners would be rather hypocritic. Having a lot of partners don't mean thay are incapable of having a relationship. That isn't the case all the time. You can't always expect the person you were with would be a virgin, or someone who strongly abstained from Sex.

    all in all;

    COMMUNICATION IS IMPORTANT!!!
    (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

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