They really calculated the order of stories... the last one was actually a good, healthy relationship, so we don't leave the manga with a bad taste in our mouths lol.
That aside, the others really were interesting, but ofc very twisted.
Interesting...
it could be making fun and analyzing an overused yaoi cliche...
or you could view it as a disgusting shota manga
uke had too choices...
1) a rapist
2) a tsundere who actually cared for him
Guess who he picked!!
*two oops
Let me guess... The rapist
1...it's so sad that people think that's real love
wow... with such a sensitive topic, you'll either love it or hate how realistic is it. I thought
What defines "normal"? Morals are something society makes up, and it becomes embedded in our bones as we grow up. If something influences who to stray from that list of rules, who are "abnormal", forced to fit in, filled with self-hate, hated by everyone for not being like them. They usually never get a happy ending.
The characters were extremely well built, and the relationships. It's hard to know who's the real "bad guy"- is it the parents for refusing to understand? (but who can blame them) The pedos who target young boys? Who is to blame when the little boy actually falls in love?
Can't say I really enjoyed it, but it makes you think.
You're definitely right.
I can't speak for other people, but for me, I also experienced sex at a very young age. I was 5 when my babysitter who was a guy dragged my feet while I was sleeping and brought my face near his D. I sucked it. Very willingly. I don't know about others but, I was very aware of my surroundings even at that age, biggest reason why I could remember almost everything from that age to now.
Anyways, I didn't know what it was called at that time, but I knew what I was doing and I liked it. I even wanted more of it even though I was too young for such thoughts...
That's what you said, what is normal,who's the bad guy... I definitely agree... because, if that was discovered, I would have come out (in more ways than one) and say that my babysitter didn't force me and that I wanted it.
for me it seems like i really hated it at the beginning but going towards the end it felt a little heart-warming but knowing the realationship can become this concerning is just i dont know...
No.. xD Why would I tell them??? My mother have didn't care that I was gay when I came out and that she still loves me... but I doubt she would have such a positive thinking if she knew bout that.... My father... let's just say he's better off dead. xD
But even if you did, "want it" most people would still say that he was at fault (which he is) because as a grown adult they shouldn't be putting their genitalia to or near a child's face with the intention to have oral sex or sex at all. He as a grown adult is responsible even if you as a five-year-old were to go up to him and beg to suck his dirty pedo dick he as the adult in this situation has to say, "No." and if he did let you suck his dick he would be in the wrong because a child cannot give consent to an adult.
As long as you are safe and okay it is your decision what to do from the incident people make mistakes whether you think it is or not and you were young no matter just be happy.
I really wonder about that... xD You know, if you think about it on a different perspective, if the world has a different version of normal, different views of what is right and what is wrong, it could be said that, you only have a different opinion which can be taken as good or bad, depending on what is believed to be right or wrong...
I'm not arguing, but rather, I'm just amazed that it is highly possible that things could have been different... I have this belief that Right and Wrong depends solely on the individual. There's the collective agreement of right and wrong but there's also the individual beliefs of right and wrong.
Which is why, to you, what my babysitter did was wrong, but to me, I would have pushed him to do it with me more, which I did, and that, to me, was not wrong... xD
But as I said, I understand that collectively, people would think that me wanting to do it with my babysitter, or my babysitter doing it with me, is absolutely wrong... so... xD It's really funny. I'm not laughing at other people's experience, just at my own way of thinking
To: @Cruz & @Otaku1237
You both mentioned how I was so young to make those decisions... which is also a funny thing... Now that my age is considered as an adult, I really wonder why adults think that children cannot think for themselves... I remember a quote from a book by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince, "All grown-ups were once children... but only few of them remember it." And that sruck me as odd...
This is just based on my experience, so it doesn't have much basis, but, as I have said, I was quite aware of my surroundings and even my own thinking at that age... All the decisions that I did, I thought of them and acted them knowing all the consequences...
When threw rocks at my neighbours roof, I knew that it was bad, and that their roof would probably get damage and that I'll get scolded or more, but I did solely because I wanted to.
When I gave up something for a person, I did it knowing that they'll be able to use it more than I do and that it was good thing...
And this without my parents telling me what is right or wrong. I simply understood it on my own. (My father might be slightly inattentive but he disciplines when necessary, and my mother was very caring and loved us, so that there's no misunderstanding that they didn't do their job as parents.)
I didn't regret any of my actions mostly because I already knew and accepted the consequences beforehand...
That is why, I wonder, why someone would tell me that I was too young to think for my self, when, at that age, I made decisions based on my thoughts and assessments.
Now, I laugh at it because I still don't get why or even how anyone could think that, especially adults who were once children themselves...
I just thought that it's either, Adults are embarrassed to admit the mistakes they made as a child or if they truly forgot their memories when they were a child... xD hahahaha
I understand I am sorry if I offended you but I didn’t mean it that way by saying you were a child so you didn’t know better I meant that even when you are young you still know what is good or bad due to how the everybody’s mind works. Anyway All I am saying is I hope you are okay and happy.
No No No!!! please, I wasn't offended or anything, in fact, I was practically laughing my ass off at my own thoughts and how weird and "not normal" it is. xD Hahaha It's just that I had this same argument with my self some years ago... As I said, I was simply wondering if other adults actually forgot their childhood or if they were simply embarrassed... And I was laughing at that. xD
Also, it's questionable if I'm ok, and being happy is like a special occasion, like a birthday, that comes at certain moments of time... xD In my case, that experience didn't really affect me, in fact, it simply made me realize that I was gay even before knowing what the word dick means. xD ahahahaha
Well that is good, not everyone can be happy all the time anyway this is was a good conversation. I hope you have a great week xD
Whoa whoa whoa, hol up. That's illegal, even if you say you weren't forced. The fact that your babysitter put his dick near your face is already messed up and pretty much illegal. I think this is what you call statutory rape?
Read the rest of my comments and you'll understand that I couldn't care less if it is or not. xD hahaha
Wait I'm confused on the ending. The author's notes at the end made it sound that Souma would be alive because he decided to live and, as the author said, "someone who has decided to live will not die so easily". So did he die or not????
Sometimes I wonder... there’s no way that schools like that exist right... where young boys rape regularly, right?
honestly idk like i hope not, but some twin guys at my school got expelled for molesting a guy so-
The stories were good... but realistically a relationships built on hate never works lol. The epitome of toxic relationships.
while reading I realized what type of "rape" turns me off. First, there's the more psychological, twisted, dark mangas, that depict rape and all its complications. Then, there's stuff like this, where the rape is unnecessary and takes away/contrasts with the whole "wholesome" tone and art style of the manga. This is more romanticizing rape.
The parents are sooooo annoying. Like, stop being so carefree if your child is suffering everyday to make ends meet, and can barely afford suppressants (which is why he got raped!!!). And I hate how accepting they were to everything? Like, they didn't even care to know more about the seme and how the uke felt (he clearly showed how uncomfortable he was at first), not to mention they're literally getting friendly with their child's rapist. And I can't believe that everyone was so happy about the supposed pregnancy. Does the author know how a teenage pregnancy can ruin a mother's life?
The seme is a bit bleh. He sorta dismisses a lot of the uke's feelings at first? Like, pairing with the uke with no consent. He's very pushy too. But whatever.
I usually like omegaverses, but idk this one pushed my buttons. Nice art tho
Totally agree. I wish omegaverse authors or yaoi authors in general would stop light heartedly putting rape scenes into their work. I mean if the scene is important for the character development or if the scene will be discussed later on or someghing than go do it. But just as it is, just to start a "romance" is kind of unsetteling. I generelly support authors freedom to draw whatever they like, but sometimes the audience might be tirggered or else so yeah, well thx for putting your thought.
Totally agree. I wish omegaverse authors or yaoi authors in general would stop light heartedly putting rape scenes into their work. I mean if the scene is important for the character development or if the scene will be discussed later on or something than go do it. But just as it is, just to start a "romance" is kind of unsetteling. I generally support authors freedom to draw whatever they like, but sometimes the audience might be tirggered erc. so yeah, anyway thanks for putting your thought out/voicing your opinion.
true, I usually don't mind rape but sometimes it just doesn't make any sense as a plot point and seems a bit illogical/insensitive to put smth heavy like that in here. Lol, I sounded sort of annoyingly ranty-complainy-like, glad to see you agree :)
I completely agree! If the parents cant afford suppressants for their kid what makes them think that they can afford yet another kid! And also why does the eldest have to take care of their wrong doings!?
He didnt ask for that, but do they care ? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
Also, i'm fine with rape in yaoi, however this one's rape made me mad and sympathetic to the mc. When reading Yahwacheop (Painter of the Night) i was fine with the rape in it, it was not like this!
The supposed pregnancy thing made me mad too. What i'm imagining the parents are thinking in that moment is "yayyyy we get a grandbaby" however what would be better is if they thought "oh no, how are we going to afford two children when we're already super poor!" Thest parents are obviously narcissistic!