This feels like it’ll have a sad, if not bittersweet, ending :( Hope I’m wrong though. I don’t think I could deal with a painful ending, since I already tear up at the most minor of inconveniences.
nahh it won't go down like that..author nim won't betray us
i surely hope not :(
This is one of the worst stories that I have ever had the displeasure of reading, and I truly despise it from the bottom of my heart. Unfortunately, the BDSM representation is quite impressive, which is a shame because it is heavily intertwined with the abominable storyline.
Never have I ever wanted to gouge my eyes out as much as I did while forcing myself to finish this disgrace of a manhwa. On the bright side, finishing it allowed me to find the hidden gem that is the chapters 54-56 BDSM scene, so now it's just a matter of trying to disassociate it from the rest of the trash. If you're looking for some great D/s and S&M play, but don't want to subdue yourself to the previous 53 chapters (and the abhorrent second couple), then I recommend reading chapters 54-56 and pretend that they're part of a one-shot. Those chapters are disconnected enough from the main story that you can just act as if the main storyline doesn't exist, without having to actually suffer through the entire drama-ridden plot.
Just realised that tomorrow (17/04) marks 1 year since I finished this abomination. What a coincidence lol, and I still hate it as much as I did then <3
come on its not that bad...
Why do you hate it- I’ve read so many other that are like the exact same thing..
I’m not sure really. I don’t denounce people for liking it by any means though. I can see why others like it, I just personally don’t. There’s a lot of layers to it, but overall it just left a very sour taste in my mouth.
I haven't read this, but why do you dislike it?
I’ve got quite a few reasons for disliking it, but it seems like they’re all just personal issues I have with the story. Most people would disagree with every criticism I have towards this manhwa, so maybe I’m not the best point of reference hahah. I’d give it a try if you’re interested but I personally would not recommend it.
So is the sequel happening or not? I’d literally be willing to buy it if I just knew where to get it :( I love this story+author so much I would sell my soul to get more content
I think I’m quite happy with how their relationship got out. I’ve been making up scenarios in my head for YEARS at this point, trying to come up with what I would consider an “ideal” ending/resolution for both this manga and Sekaiichi Hatsukoi. I’d never considered the possibility of them getting caught kissing in a car, but I did dabble with the idea of them getting caught by Takahiro in some way. It just feels like the most realistic way of their relationship getting exposed, as I think Misaki would have a hard time coming out unprovoked. So although the method was rather surprising, I’m not too shocked by how their relationship got exposed and am honestly quite happy with it :)
Still pissed off about how long it took lol, so while I’ll give Nakamura Shungiku some credit for this resolution, I’ll still curse her from the bottom of my heart for the last 10 years of pure torture
So fucking annoying omg
Appreciate the update but pls I’m legit going to die of old age before this story ends ugh
Not sure how I feel about Yuma’s reaction to all this. If your partner looks visibly troubled by something that happened, your immediate response should not be to shut them out and leave them, telling them you “don’t want to see them for some time.” I understand that Makoto didn’t explicitly say that he was sexually assaulted, but if Yuma knows him as well as he claims he does, he’d have realised that his lover was in clear pain and was visibly struggling in that moment. Seems a bit selfish to just get up and leave, without giving them the chance of perhaps opening up to you about being raped.
Miscommunication is a big factor here, so this isn’t to say Makoto is entirely blameless. He didn’t talk to Yuma about what happened, and behaved in a suspicious manner when questioned about what took place. But again, Yuma could’ve done a lot better. Maybe wait until your SO opens up and talks about what happened? Maybe give them more than 5 minutes to collect their thoughts, instead of just leaving? Perhaps be there for them when they open up about sexual assault, rather than insinuating it was infidelity? Idk man. Do better lol.
THIS ^^^^^^
ALL THIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Like, I get Makoto's mistake here but he's a victim in this case and when dealing with something that could have traumatized someone, you have got to give people the benefit of the doubt and not jump to conclusions like hoops or sumtn. Yuma's actions really left a bad taste in my mouth, it's like he indirectly victim blamed Makoto who didn't even consent in the first place and who hasn't explained the situation by assuming something in his head. Makoto WAS very afraid and confused. He doesn't want to lose Yuma but there's already doubt. The guy clearly didn't enjoy himself, he looked fucking uncomfortable as all hell and the first thing he asks is, "Did you enjoy it?" BIG WTF MOMENT ?????????????? Like, sir, don't you think you should check in on them, probe why they look so traumatized? Oh, but idk *rolls eyes*.
This is why you don't go boldly claiming "I know you" to a partner unless you can back those words because actions often differ to what the mouth loves to prattle and words have impact.
Petition to stone homewreckers to death like that co-worker guy who doesn't deserve their name remembered because their the kind of people who are just maliciously evil-spirited. Liking someone who's in a relationship isn't really terrible but you don't go pouncing on them and breaking safe spaces and boundaries, what he is is a rapist. Fucking loon is 'educated', went abroad and all and for what? Goes to show status means nothing in the face of one's morals and how loose it is. Some of these people are just so infuriatingly terrible. I hate it here AAHKJDSFHFGFCX
this is a good analysis, and i'm not sure if this is what the author is trying to go for, but makoto didn't speak up about what happened for a lot of reasons 1) he has just gone through the traumatic experience of being raped 2) he was manipulated into thinking that he cheated on yuma, ergo not being able to tell him what happend out of guilt and 3) he feels as though it's his fault, as many sexual assault/rape survivors do. it's extremely sad but true but yeah that's why i think makoto didn't speak up about what happened but i love your analysis it's extremely eloquent!
Yuma asking Makoto if he enjoyed it really sent me into a frenzy. I found it so absolutely disgusting to see him treat his partner like some used goods, as if being sexually assaulted was somehow his fault. Maybe, idk, don't ASSUME he cheated on you? Maybe pick up on some verbal and non-verbal clues to find out why your SO looks so bothered? Like ugh smh dude lmao. I so agree that the whole "I know you best!" line needs to be reevaluated lol because if you're so insanely blind that you can't tell when your partner has been through some traumatic experience, then idk what to tell you buddy :/
Honestly same though, that co-worker gives me such bad vibes. Like it's clearly what the author is going for, but still. Left a bad taste in my mouth.
I completely agree with you. I found it so heartbreaking to see Makoto display "SA Victim 101" signs and have Yuma not only not pick up on them, but instead accuse him of infidelity. Makoto clearly did not speak up because of all the reasons you mentioned, but as the user above pointed out, "knowing someone" means that you should ideally be able to pick up on stuff like this. Especially considering how Makoto was, as you said, manipulated into thinking it was his fault. If Yuma had even TRIED talking to his visibly-disturbed partner, then maybe Makoto could have told him what happened, and would've immediately recognised that it was non-consensual and sexual assault. Makoto wouldn't have needed some elaborate excuse to "make it sound like assault" because the smallest mention of the events that took place would've given that away. Just ugh lol.
Now, Yuma is clearly younger than Makoto, so this level of immaturity could be expected of him; not as a justification, but more as an explanation. I'm guessing this will server as some form of character development for him, and hopefully we'll see him become a more supportive boyfriend than this. Cause this ain't it tbh.
yes! i'm glad you agree and you are so right!
I think you are being way too harsh on Yuma. He doesn't have any information on what went on. None. All he knows is that Makoto has a kiss mark and looks troubled. So he asked what happened and Makoto says a kiss. You can be trouble, sad and anxious for other reasons than being assaulted. Like regretting cheating for example. You say Yuma shouldn't just assumed Makoto cheated but is it more normal to straight up assume assault either?
He doesn't ask if "Makoto enjoyed being assaulted". He doesn't know it was assault. He asks if kissing another guy felt good because previously Makoto said only Yuma feels good. And the silence comment is clearly mistranslated. It should be silence is agreeing, meaning "it did feek good". It's just a bunch of miscommunication and barely any communication.
Yuma also does hug Makoto when he cries despite thinking he was cheated on. Then he leaves because he is hurting. I think it's key to remember HE DOESN'T KNOW IT WAS ASSAULT. HE DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. You can't victim blame a victim you don't know they were a victim because victim blaming is blaming the person for being in a situation that led to an assault. Yuma is blaming, and I think very very lightly, him for cheating (Though of course it wasn't cheating but assault) because he doesn't know.
Absolutely, and one possible reason why Yuma chose to get out was maybe he starts to feel angry, irritated with the silence, and feeling like doing something impulsive and that is why he said that he wants time to think first so he won't hurt him. Its clear that Yuma genuinely trust and cares for the uke. Facing this type of situation is hard for the both of them and no one should be blamed for it except the motherfucker who claims to be the uke's friend.
Very glad that the assault scene ended up being a dream. Was a bit worried that perhaps there’d been some history of rape in their relationship which didn’t sit well with me, so I’m happy that it wasn’t the case. We got a hot scene and avoided sexual assault, sounds good to me!
Mizukami Shin’s stories are truly unique. It’s a common theme with her that, upon my first reading of her books, I tend to dislike them. But upon my second or even third reading, I come to truly appreciate the beauty of her stories.
When I first read this story, I was probably between 10 and 11 years old. I didn’t enjoy it, and more than anything, I didn’t understand it. The plot was confusing due to me being so young, and everything seemed so... dark.
After revisiting it a few years later, I came to understand the story a lot better, and actually began to love it quite a bit. The wholesome fluffiness in the last few chapters had completely flown over my head as a kid, since I was blinded by the morbidness of it all. But I’m happy I came back to it, as I do believe this author has something special to offer.
The same thing happened with my first reading of Rikugun Renai Shikan Gakkou. A problematic story, yes. But quite beautiful if read under the right conditions.
This is fantastic. Can’t wait to see them develop their dynamic further.
Blegh no thanks
So did you drop this?
Not sure yet. Have read all the chapters available so far so I might give the next few a shot but I honestly don’t like it
mmm okay,okay,okay