It sucks cause we all know that Chanwoo is gonna say no and that makes me so sad :(
Whaat why tho.. I think he could say yes
Ikr? :(((
Chanwoo is really stubborn, so he'd probably say no this time and be like "no we gotta keep it professional" :( Also it's too early on in the season for him to say yes, so I'm guessing the author will make us wait a few more chapters before he agrees to date MD
i think he might say no because he might think that he doesn't deserve md or something. the relationship he's been in have been abusive so he might have some trauma or something idk xD
Ohh right. Idk why I thought their story was just an extra so it was going to be really short lol but it makes sense now
I hadn't thought about it that way lmao but now I really hope that's the case. While I would love a super long story of these two (cause they're just so cute) I think I'd prefer a less angsty and dramatic story, even if it means it's shorter
It's been so long since it's been updated and I just wanna know how it ends.
I don't understand how scanlation group drama works, but why can't two groups work on it at the same time? Is there some kind of unwritten rule that says two people can't work on it? If the original group isn't going to update it anymore, then why can't we at least get the scans from the other translator? It'd be better than nothing tbh :(
technically since they have no rights on the manga (like because they bought the rights for a country or because they drew it) anyone can scanlate this manga which is why they actually have no rights to get mad or to call out the translator ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
I personally it’s more a matter of
*if we start this project and someone finish before us, all our efforts were wasted*
Also stuff like *we started this and we want to finish it*
Then keep in mind that there are rude people everywhere so it doesn’t take much to have miscommunications leads to confrontation.
It’s part of growing up and finding yourself. What’s wrong with seeing Yuki struggle with his sexuality in a realistic way? Since when do we expect people to be pure virgins that “save themselves for the one they love”? I can’t believe people are being put off by the author’s portrayal of Yuki being human and experiencing life. I understand that seeing Yuki without Takuma may be unexpected, but this is a flashback, and there’s nothing wrong with showing a character struggle with being gay and learning more about it through sex. It’s called character development. Should we pretend that Yuki didn’t struggle with his sexuality because “he was in love with Takuma”? And can we please stop objectifying virginity? It’s 2020, and being grossed out by someone having sex with someone who isn’t the mc (before they were even dating) is such an outdated attitude towards BL and sexuality in general.
so agree
Thank you
if there was an option, this should be pinned for everyone to see
agree
They weren’t dating?? I literally thought they’d been dating since season 1??? Why doesn’t Chanwoo wanna date MD anyways? MD is clearly in love with him, and I thought Chanwoo started liking him a lot, so why the heck are they not together?
Chanwoo likes younger guys, that's why. And its because they are in S&M relationship, and its business.... eh
But didn't Chanwoo say "you'll do for now old guy" when they started the S&M thing? And people in S&M relationships can definitely date, so I don't see why that would mean that they aren't together :(
They're just fuck buddies, nothing more. They are in business. I mean its not prohibited to have a relationship on S&M partners. MD doesn't like to have relationships with his partners. And they agreed that they will only be a DS relationship. And their love lives will kept separated. Well I mean MD realized that he has feelings for Chanwoo, let's just be happy. :)
This is gonna be super long, but this webtoon was also long and I still sat through all of it despite my bitter emotions, so here goes. I really wanted to love this webtoon. I was honestly enjoying it a lot, but by the end of it I was so tired of the story and just didn't like any of it. As soon as it opened up with such a consensual and explicit depiction of a real BDSM dynamic, I was ecstatic. I'd been looking for a story like this one for so long, and I was genuinely really excited for it. It's a shame that this glee was so short-lived. To start, the conflict between the main couple felt so insanely rushed in so many ways. The way it started felt sudden and unnatural, even if the intentions were justified. The progression also felt extremely rushed and out of place, like the author just wanted to quickly get it out of the way so that there would be direction for the webtoon. The actual climax also felt extremely anti-climactic, and everything the characters said/did just didn't work well for me at all. The resolution was perhaps the worst aspect of it, since it was, again, rushed, but also didn't feel justified in any way. Like the author knew that the story had to go from point A to point B and just wrote some dialogue in between. It wasn't satisfying at all. And the epilogue is what killed it for me. By that point I don't understand how anyone reading still held any degree of passion for that couple, since Jisuh became very unlikeable and Heejae just became extremely bland. And that's what ruined the BDSM scene for me. It felt forced. I'm not going to generalise but there's probably a great deal of people who clicked on this webtoon because of the BDSM, since that's what it marketed itself as for the first third of the story, but it just kind of got swept under the rug and completely forgotten for the rest of the story, and instead replaced by forced drama. I'm not saying there can't be any drama in this story. On the contrary, I think drama can spice things up greatly, but only if done properly. Even if the seeds for the conflict had been planted early on, it never felt natural, and the reactions of every character just felt so fake and scripted; it completely took away from the immersion. So to shove a BDSM scene at the end as "fanservice" just felt so lazy and ruined the story even more for me, because it reminded me of what this story could've been vs. what it ended up being. It disappointed me to no end. It seems like the author wanted to make a quick callback like "oh right I forgot this was supposed to be BDSM. Let's just shove a quick kinky scene at the end that doesn't explore the dynamic at all, but rather just shows kinky sex." I'm so sad that this is what my feelings for the story ended up being. As I said, I was so excited for it, so to be so intensely disappointed left such a bitter taste in my mouth, and it hasn't gone away yet.
I see a lot of people praising the second couple, and yes, they were extremely cute. However, is no one going to mention how it didn't fit the story at all? How literally out of nowhere they just shove this new couple in your face after the epilogue? I have nothing against them, and I also agree that they were wholesome. But after the the awful feelings I got from the previous couple, to suddenly and completely out of nowhere say "ok so this is the new couple. Forget about the other two and focus on this completely random romance that has nothing to do with what you just finished reading" just feels out of place. If you wanted to write a cute story for Sun-Yool then go ahead. But not like this. And especially, not in the middle of a chapter! What was up with that?! So I'm reading chapter 57, which focuses on the main couple, and all of a sudden I see this new relationship out of the blue? Come on now. And I know it sucks, but I just couldn't enjoy them either. I was already in a bad mood because of the previous couple, and to give me no time to calm down before you shove a new story down my throat doesn't even let me prepare myself mentally, which resulted in me not having a good time with the second couple either.
I know this is rambly and ranty, but I'm just so sad about this. I'll keep saying it, but I was ready to make this my favourite manhwa. It's not that I disliked it because it went in a different direction than I'd expected, it's the opposite, because that's the whole point of reading stories: the feeling of suspense. I wouldn't have even cared if they hadn't ended up together (which seems more realistic if you ask me), all I wanted was a story and ending that made sense, not this. Again, I'm sad, but also slightly disappointed. This rant is by no means a way of discrediting the author, because they did a lot of things right. The art was great, and the story was great as well, until it wasn't. I just hope I can revisit this in a few years and appreciate it more than I did, because honestly this ruined my night.
yes
I agree with you there. The story also had a great potential to go beyond the concept of manipulation and perversion. It must be the reason why I'm put off by the romance of it all. When Heejae, Sunyool, and Jisuh was sleeping together after a "threesome", my mind was ready to establish it that way. The romantic concept feels off too because there was only a sexual connection between the three of them. Haeyoung is also a weird addition to the cast, as if his sole purpose was to pull Sunyool away from the "main couple".
This is the first yaoi manga that I ever read, and I love revisiting it every now and then. It makes me feel so warm and happy, with a hint of nostalgic melancholy since it reminds me of my early weeb days. I remember finding it on a youtube video, since back then I didn't know of any other ways of reading manga online lol. It's been nearly 8 years since I first started reading BL, and man it's been such a wild journey for me, all thanks to this manga haha :')
I've honestly been enjoying this story sooo much so far and I'm really excited to see where it goes. But with the most recent turn of events, I'm starting to get really worried that it'll become unnecessarily dramatic, which I think will end up ruining the mood for it. I don't understand why there have to be so many plot conveniences tbh, but hopefully those plot devices don't end up ruining the story. I don't dislike the way Yeong is turning out to be, but he better not ruin the story by being so dismissive of Nohae lol. Currently kinda bummed by how much it's diverted from kinky dynamics, as I was hoping this would have a bit more BDSM than it does, but oh well, you can't always get what you want lol
My heart is literally melting omg this was so wholesome