this is a mf MAN. i love down bad, passionate ml so much!! idc if the red flag is his manipulation and lying to make her happy and heal, ill take that any day
this story is really living up to its hype with the tension between them
first his looks and now the sexual innuendos… ill pray for ml because his boyfriend is too hopeless when it comes to social cues
he’s very cute and betrayal from him would be sad after his introduction. however the other guy is sus as hell… he gives off “there’s no war in ba sing se” energy
i know he’s a teen so he’s not supposed to be emotionally mature or the nicest, but he’s so rude to his parents for nothing !! knowing what his mom went through it really pisses me off that he’s bratty when he’s been given endless love, care, stability AND is financially set for life. yet he can’t do well in school, and thought being rejected as an idol once should make him stop trying altogether??
he’s a true nepo baby but can’t even use his resources… and then on top of that formed a relationship with someone who is cut off for a reason. she not only gave heesung eternal self esteem issues + deep emotional scars, but the trauma of your own mom being able to leave you with her abuser is an unimaginable type of pain
round him up!! he’s deeply unsettling and obsessed with her #need that. i have a feeling he’s a hottie under there but if he’s actually just evil and gross, ignore me.
(don’t answer my question with spoilers)
I agree. His obsession could be turned to pure love. Just add him to the harem! I think he is a cutie under all that get up.
Exactly, I hope Kakana will just 'add to cart' that demon so that there is less danger. Lmaoo
the last panel sheds a different light on their relationship. i thought they only felt a relative duty or life destiny to protect mc for the prophecy. but now seeing that they met him when he was a baby… they probably have a unconscious, deeper attachment than we think
which makes this even more interesting and saddening. found family is my favorite trope but there’s definitely going to be a lot of future pain as their bond strengthens and as they deal with horrible situations
we need side stories now!!! i didn’t think they would end this soon, but i loved how it finished . i think making tae meet child hyo again was necessary for the tae to get closure on their past. unlike hyo, tae never got the chance to reminisce on their old dynamic because his first life was so fleeting
plus, i love concepts where couples meet the younger version of their partner. it’s the most heartwarming thing
prime and extreme example of codependency is my bread and butter. the remorse, longing, tenderness, and desperation always eating at ml and making him do either the most awful or selfless shit
then mc has to make amends with his entire situation constantly but is slowly starting to fall in love seeing the care and dedication ml has put in. they need each other or else they’ll crumble and fall apartヾ(☆▽☆)
Me too. Love how toxic the is. Totally my kind of treat.
right! i can’t stand stories like this if their toxicity isn’t built up, but this one does all of that and the motivations are justified + explained (▰˘◡˘▰)
yk when people complain about caesar shooting mc, it was really annoying because the excuse was always “he’s in the mafia what do you expect” but the problem wasn’t the action itself or readers expecting some fairy tale fluffy romance. the issue with it was the lack of common sense and overall intelligence caesar should have. the shooting was unexpected because of the lack of build up. with how smart and calculating he is i felt like the reaction was… confusing and drastic ??? when it really could’ve been solved with one conversation instead of going from 0-10000
i feel the same way now with this self-mutilation… because leewon was obviously teasing and messing with caesar in order to hear him say sorry, and was clearly not serious. but again as a result of ceasars idiocy and impulsiveness, he crashed out for the dumbest mf reason
He tried shooting a child and (in the novel) did necro with a woman who tried to kill him and had sex with dmitri once,.
It's not shocking why he'd do what he does because we know hes unhinged (not defending him) you should read the novel.
In the novel he literally thought of raping lee won the moment they bumped into eachother... The manwha is shockingly more tame than the novel (>0<；)
Reminder who is dmitri??
damn the necro one...... hes really crazy
The cousin..
i’m guessing there’s no happy ending…
damn what chapter in the novel was the necro and dmitri wtf
thanks for explaining it! this did not help me understand or like him though LMAO
but it gives more context for his character, instead of making his actions only annoying and shocking. had they introduced him as an insane and psychotic character from the start, or we heard his inner thoughts i would’ve seen the shooting/self mutilation as a sensible plot choice
imo the writing of the webtoon is bad, in terms of characterization. i don’t like when bad characters are evil without context or some type of explanation/motive. the times when we saw him take his anger or emotions out on leewon, it was out of nowhere and over the smallest of reasons. i felt like it clashed with his overall persona and reduced him to an abusive crash out bf
the guy who wears the heart monitor for caesar
and remember the side story where leewon and caesar were playing hunter/prey in the woods? dmitri was the guy caught in one of their traps and had to watch them having sex all night
He was pushed into a world filled with violence and didn't receive any love as he was growing up, having to kill, defend and do sadistic acts in order to survive, a world like that would fuck up your perspective in your formative years.
When children often get exposed to those levels of violence they often rely on other forms of comfort even if its unhealthy wether it be self harm or sex. Violent environments create violent people, and as Ceasar grew older and became an adult he mixed violence with his sex life. (Something I can partially relate to.)
Since he was also an heir to an influential mafia group he's also probably used to getting what he wants, that's why he cares less about consequences and cares more about results, like when he faked his death by having to be stabbed to fool the traitors and endangering lee won to execute the rat.
If you lived in a world where empathy can get you killed, you'd have to turn into a monster. Although what he does isn't justified, there are explanations on why he commits heinous acts.
Again not defending him but he wasn't born evil, he's just a product of two People who we're burned by the fire of their cruel environment and then passing that torch to burn Cesar aswell, rather than give him warmth.
So yeah long story short, his environment was fucked up so that's why he's like that
ok while i get that, my issue is how they don’t show this in the webtoon… i get where u are coming from, but i don’t care about caesar enough to research or sympathize with him . my main takeaway is only about the lack of context + characterization. lowkey your statement makes implies i knew all this about caesar, but chose to disregard it and say ignorant things about someone who grew up in horrible conditions. im well educated in how nature and nurturing a child can influence their behavior/outlooks towards the world!! but my focus is complaining about how badly written the story was, and sure while i get the novel explained it- the webtoon fails to
without his lore, he basically looks like a flat, toxic, and violent character who has worse communication skills than a baby. with all the info you gave on him it further proved i truly dgaf about this evil caucasian man LMAO
its better written in the novel, they had to tame down the story to not make it to the level of killing stalking so that the characters are still lovable.
winter really got in his head guys, im scared for ray’s future. its worse we get where he’s coming from because he doesn’t know how much time has past, where he is, who is out there, and what possible escape plan he could hatch in a short amount of time with no information. my stomach dropped the same way as his when i thought out winter’s retaliation…
i really hope this doesn’t end with him staying out of pity and acceptance