i was tired of this brooding hot and cold shit geum kept pulling with 704 so im excited for a REAL chasing and groveling era !!! ready to see him being a ruthless goblin and a clueless, all forgiving lover
i had high hopes for readers but yall are terrible at interpreting media and are just straight up inexperienced when it comes to helping a mentally ill partner. you guys would literally rather see inwoo die content with his starvation, stay on writers block, and be codependent instead of making him uncomfortable in order to heal or get better. talking about “im so proud of him” for cutting off someone who would risk his own relationship just to see his lover alive… as if inwoo knows what’s best for himself (hint: people whose illness is getting worse usually don’t!)
so im trying not to blame you guys for having terrible takes but my god at least take a step back and try to understand the other side… rather than blindly using therapy terms you don’t know the meaning of
CLOCK ITTTT
THANK YOU!! The way people in these comments are calling them the “uke/bottom” and “seme” just goes to show they arent invested in the writing as they are in the relationship dynamic. How else is Jiho supposed to feel when his partner clearly isn’t taking care of himself and doesn’t seem to have any intention to change it? Inwoo has literally been unintentionally starving himself and has been in a writing block, how can you not feel bad? Also it’s unfair to judge a character just by their thoughts because theyre just that, thoughts in his HEAD. Jiho has been trying to help in his own way, even if it didn’t turn out well in the end. How can you persecute a character so hard when he’s trying his best to help his partner
Bro... There's someone on this comment section who leaves their professional point of view/insights about Jiho's actions towards Inwoo and why his actions cause more harm than good.
Just because people who aren't agreeing with your opinion are people who don't share the same way of thinking as you about a situation as delicate as this one doesn't mean that their opinions clashing against yours are "terrible at interpreting media and are straight up inexperienced".
Also I think that if you are so hang up about finding expertise and people with experiences you should probably look somewhere else other than a comment section from an illegal website. In the first place a comment section from an illegal website isn't really the best suited places for your tastes or for your high standards/expectations.
I must admit that your advice is very brilliant. You should really take into consideration your own words because (just a little hint) it can, unexpectedly, also fits in your situation.
bro respectfully im not talking about all people who have disagreeable opinions with me, about a character with mental illness and a character who aids them ?? this was not a generalization of “if you don’t share my opinion you’re wrong and don’t know anything” so idk where you got that from
im criticizing readers who only believe inwoo is “setting boundaries” + is excused from his actions because he has trauma and is mentally ill. also your comment comes off really pretentious and silencing for no reason, when it wasn’t a big deal for me to write a quick complaint about readers with this unsafe mentality. spreading harmful rhetoric about people with mental illness/partners dealing with it is still bad even on an illegal reading website lol. informing and poking at readers is entertaining, and assuming my intentions is… interesting to say the least. im not seeking professional, highly skilled medical providers input. i was only surprised to see blatant disregard for both people, for the sake of false/ignorant righteousness. it’s not wrong to expect more compassion from consumers, then being shocked at the lack of it. adding my two cents was not some type of virtue signaling or policing- i just like being a hater and sharing information !
before writing this stuff please consider that others already know this, but also can move along the internet without breaking a sweat at the same time
right!! while i get both characters are flawed and written very realistically, the villainizing of one person was uncalled for- it’s disturbing how deeply one sided it is. these two deserve rightful criticism, but it’s mind blowing people believe inwoo fighting help, hates compassionate pity, and then actively dying in different ways (passion, eating, companionship) is somehow noble since it’s on his terms… i don’t even blame jiho for being ill-equipped because reaching understanding requires both people to communicate and be willing to compromise !!! and it feels as though only inwoo gets to have his way because readers relate to wanting full autonomy but not truly understanding any of the context for jihos decisions
“i had high hopes for readers but yall are terrible at interpreting media and are just straight up inexperienced when it comes to helping a mentally ill partner.”
I'm sorry to assume the generalization if it was not your intentions. But from the very first sentence of your rant you use "yall are terrible at", you open a wide hostility adding your position and distancing yourself from the people who don't agree with you. You're adding fuel with people who are on the other side of your position by making them feel wronged in order to push your narrative as the right way : “you guys would literally rather see inwoo die content with his starvation, stay on writers block, and be codependent instead of making him uncomfortable in order to heal or get better.”
You can easily interpret it as, you, downplaying whoever have a divergent opinions from yours are the ones who "are terrible at interpreting media and are inexperienced." It feels like you put them in the wrong side and push yourself in the right.
If I am wrong about any of this I am sorry.
I guess it was just your part of being what you like to be on Internet.
Just to be clear... In all honesty, with what you replied to me I don't have any problems with your opinion on this case. It's interesting to have different reflexion on this topic and I respect your opinion about this.
However there was only one problem I had with your rant : your pretentious attitude.
It was pretty clear that my intention was to come off as pretentious because I was reflecting the tone of your rant. Your passive aggressiveness felt uptight and belittling. I admit how It was petty of me and I am sorry about that.
Thank you for taking your time in replying to me and taking your time to explain your side of the story.
bro what? it’s really disingenuous arguing with someone on the internet and throwing in a “ YOU are actually acting this way too” well yes! that’s what happens during conversations… you usually reciprocate attitudes when someone throws their hats in first. u can’t expect others to be the bigger person when you were seeking to argue and were insulting in the first place, like what
plus how are you going to say all this and still tone police and apply my statements to all readers please apply your opinions to yourself! you aren’t seeking my type of comments with joy and that’s okay but it was way easier for you to ignore it. acting all gung-ho about attitude and mean opinions on an illegal app is weird. there’s literally racists, misogynists, and rape supporters on here but being a bitch is the problem… ok
i literally had to spell out who this was for and that was when the convo should’ve ended but going out of your way to break down my sentences when it’s still clearly targeting a specific audience + my responding snarkiness was aimed towards u in retaliation- i don’t get it. this feels like that “bean soup” discourse. if my op didn’t apply to you, why get so offended and make it about yourself. i honestly don’t get why you felt the need to start this whole discourse when my intention WAS to be mean because of how readers baby fully grown adults with mental illness/trauma but completely bastardize their struggling helping hand. i was passionate about this issue, while you were passionate about telling me to basically be quiet, go on other platforms, fix my attitude of all things, and defending literal strangers who were ignorant about these situations. nothing with wrong with having different opinions, but at the end of the day they can also still be incorrect/shitty too ??
im sorry but if you can’t see how flawed inwoo’s outlook is, you need some maturing to do. automatically assuming his partner is basing their entire relationship on pity then self wallowing is really sad but shows he’s content with his declining health... his partner can have sympathy for his circumstances but is also able to love him as a person but inwoo doesn’t see that. yall realize that’s normal right??? feeling bad for a person and also liking them for who they are?? both people are flawed yada yada yada however believing jiho is unrightfully crossing boundaries or is the only one in the wrong is completely delusional!!
if you guys truly believe you should let your mentally ill partner spiral to their eventual hospitalization and death- instead of preventing it through any means- i can tell you’ve never experienced or were taught how to help someone else’s crisis before! codependency is BAD, letting him get worse without intervention IS NOT what reinforcing boundaries mean yall are incorrectly using that word LMAO
did alldat just to see the dragon again… kys
BUT THEY ARE FINALLY ONE??? THEYRE SO BACK
it looks like he’s responding to the highly violent and scary situation with hypersexuality. i hate how winter gets to use that to his advantage and will probably make mc feel guilty or responsible from getting turned on from rape sex… to anyone reading this just know it’s possible to be turned on during an sa, however it still doesn’t mean a person wants or consents it. it’s a biological reaction (and your story is valid)
don’t know what i expected when i kept reading. dead dove can be entertaining but this story going straight to kidnapping and rape fest is really lazy lmao
Right, hyper sexuality also is involuntary. It’s a natural reaction to trauma.
well said!
i love the trope of playboy and really experienced short one, whos usually older. then a nervous and huge puppy whos inexperienced yet extremely good at sex and possessive. off the top of my head it’s done in pizza delivery and under the green light too
also love it since the bottom is the toxic one lmao
i love crazy ml but a grown ass man acting this way is so embarassing when she’s supposed to be a high schooler. i wish they were in college so his actions didn’t feel as annoying, a clingy and overly possessive attitude over someone who’s barely an adult is cringe
i was completely understanding of both sides because for suha it’s difficult to bring up jiwoons family without scoping them out first vs jiwoon coincidentally seeing suha with his half brother and thinking the worse (cheating/being abandoned)
but when suha’s confronted again and again, why be fucking avoidant then try to lie over and over? the first confrontation, lying was understandable, because he didn’t know what jiwoon saw. and didn’t want to bring the mood down on a holiday and their awaited spare time together… i get that. but after being exposed there’s NO merit in covering it up without looking guilty and completely wrong. talk about character regression
my interpretation is the orb hyo created froze specific timelines of their past together and his own life after his passing. the orb is only confused because all it knows is that tae’s dead!! the memory understands he’s real but not how he exists: they had no understanding of why tae is even reincarnated or alive (something we still don’t have answers to)
to simplify it even more: the memory of hyo is aware it’s a memory, so seeing tae alive and well in the flesh is heartbreaking and shocking it because he’d do anything to see him alive even if it’s just a figment itself
I have a little similar understanding, Hyo-Un preserve a part of his subconscious inside the Orb along with his memories before giving it to MC cause he knows MC will lost some of his memories when he absorbed the Orb or his memories are inside of the Orb cause it's Hyo-un other half
When MC finally acknowledge the Orb, Hyo-Un subconscious gave him a little tour, But MC being all inlove to Hyo-Un made an interaction with a memory and thus it gain consciousness at the end of the chapter cause he recognized the alive MC was interacting with him.
he became a 40 year old twink and never looked back… talk about finding comfort in your cage, he’s bonding with everything about it