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While I would normally agree with you, this is the one case where the author has made me feels it's a believable conclusion. If we're talking abt the Cardinal, we can't use logic; he lives his whole life based on the fact *God has given him another chance at life.* To him, he has died once and has been brought back by God Himself-- and although this seems mostly metaphorical, to him it is very much literal; he's a very cunning, intelligent guy but his religiousness and absolute belief in God comes first and foremost in regards to his character. And, who knows? Maybe it WAS divine intervention. IDK where the author is taking this.

But besides that (the Cardinal's belief as to what happened to him), I think it's because Shuri is not *only* overly confident, but also mostly correct, and truly someone that changed completely from one day to the other. Everyone notes on how she was "trembling" one day, but taking complete control of her life the other. It really is more "out of the blue" than you'd think possible, too, given her age.

I understand where you are coming from but I still don’t believe that he would think that this is her second life. Like mb “god or someone helped her” or “she can see the future” or smth like that, but I doubt he’s thinking “this is her second life”. The Cardinal didn’t go back in time like she did. He was simply saved from drowning (mb by god or it could’ve totally been by a character who is involved in the story which would be a nice twist >:3 ). Anyways that’s why even tho he had “a second chance at life”, it is no where near the same as her “second chance at life” which is why I believe that he wouldn’t of thought of that possibility even with his deep faith. Does that make sense? (￣∇￣")

That makes sense, but didn’t the Cardinal only know that it was Shuri’s second life after she told him in the confession booth? I thought the Cardinal knew that she went through divine intervention but wasn’t sure what exactly it was, only that she suddenly became a different person.

Technically yeah, that's when he got the confirmation it was her second life, but the way he talked about her (how she'd changed and etc) was as if he suspected as much, or suspected something similar. Iirc he says something about how "it seems she's lived through this before", or "knew what was going to happen", or something?? But at that point it was in pure speculation, ofc. He definetely believed she had been "touched by God" and "given a second chance" like he had, but the exact way that happened was largely speculation on his part; the way I interpret it is that his way of pushing his own narrative (what he thinks happened with himself) onto Shuri is what makes him be able to suspect this.

But depending on how this is expanded upon in future chapters I may be proven wrong tho lol

I like seeing a different opinion! This discussion gave me a new perspective on Cardinal’s character. So, thank you for replying to my og post! (=・ω・=)

We thinking the same thing(≧∀≦)

(▰˘◡˘▰) we shall wait together comrade (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ for the time WILL one day come~

(づ￣ ³￣)づ