So I came here because of Jungle Juice and wtf. It's so disgusting how they repeatedly refer to the blue haired girl as a little kid but repeatedly expose her breasts and draw her in provocative positions. I'm fine with smut. I expected that when I came here because other people mentioned it. But it's not okay to ever fetishize minors or make smut and porn where one of the subjects is repeatedly refered to as a minor even though they aren't. It just enables pedophiles. I'm very disappointed and grossed out and immediately dropping this. And I don't want any response tryna defend that shit just because this is supposed to be a darker manhwa. Yes, child porn and the fetishization of children and minors is a sad factor of reality and you can portray that in fiction through proper means but you can't do that in a smut piece. So don't @ me tryna defend this pedophilia enabling shit.
Y'all since Jungle Juice also works on non insects like arachnids and then whatever scorpions and centipedes are, what if it also works on crustaceans? That means a mantis shrimp might be plausible in this universe LOL they would def be too predator if so they hold two world records (best eyesight and strongest punch). Also horseshoe crabs can be canon considering they're actually arachnids not crustaceans. But legit like what if some gov or whatever tf weird world order found out and started testing it with mantis shrimp and other crustaceans to create a super army or some shit?
who would use insect repellent against a horseshoe crab lmao
probably me lol. like what if you lived on the beach and it wandered into your house and you have a fear of crabs so you legit just sprayed the first thing you found at it? like arachnophobia but with crabs lolol
they don't look like crabs tho, anyone that's lived by the beach long enough know they're harmless(￣∇￣)
Our boy Johan is so whipped it's killing meeeee I find it cute and refreshing how for one, he's not a super broody and dark haired ML like we always seem to have. Also his social and family anxiety seems incredibly realistic and I'm living for it.
Can we talk about how I'm already in love with this man? I'm such a sucker for the type of guys who tease and banter a lot.
The knight right? He's my no.1 for now anyways (≧∀≦)
What the flying fuck? So she shares the same mom as the villain ML but the same dad as the original ML? What ? None of this makes sense and I'm dropping because sibling shit is nasty regardless if they're blood related or not because they're still raised as siblings
uh, no. i mean, the fl's mom and dad were from the family of the og ml, thus making the fl and the villain ml completely not blood related lol.
The ml mother still had the baby in her womb when she found the fl but the ml mother and the baby in her womb died
Lol her real brother is the male lead of the novel. Her family tried to kill her as a baby despite her being kidnapped by the villain’s pregnant mom. So now she’s living as the sister of the villain.
Why do they always do the "separate to protect" trope? It's literally so goddamn melodramatic for no reason too and just causes more issues like I've never seen that type of shit happen irl. Especially between ride or dies like Yeoryong and Dan-i.
we aijt perfect tho, it was a very realistic decision. i had nostalgia
So I really wanna give this a shot but the very first sex scene pisses me off. Big time. It's not romantic or okay to tell your partner to just take it even if they don't want to and that once you start you can't stop. That's such bs. Consent can be taken back at any time and that's perfectly valid to take it back if you're not feeling okay with the way things are heading. And men are not little children or animals. They have perfect capacity to show sexual self control but society let's them get away with bs claims that they don't have any. It's rape culture. And I don't want any of y'all tryna justify shit in the comments about how "it's a different time" like no they were not forced by others to have sex but the ML still coerced her into it. It's not like people were watching to make sure they had sex or were there in the morning to check the sheets for bloodstains or to examine her hymen like some virginity test bs. Literally if Game of Thrones can have Tyrian not force Sansa, then other straight fantasy and historical fiction pieces can make their MLs not force the FLs. It irks me to no end that everyone just ignores this type of shit because they're simping over a drawing. Like y'all... How can you just overlook it ? I've come back to this three times and I cannot get past a couple chapters because of it.
i agree with you, it’s not romantic at all and i think that’s the point. when they first had sex, there was no romantic attraction, it was purely just because they had an obligation to do so as a married couple. especially with her anxiety about the marriage, the scene is there to portray how meaningless her life was to her, she just did what she had to do to survive. personally, i didn’t like it either and i’m not really interested in the sex and more about her relationship with her anxiety and trauma, especially with the misunderstanding between the two. maybe it’ll help if you focus on that? i don’t know tho, this is just what i think about it
frankly i didnt enjoy that either mainly because i imagine he only did that to convenience himself considering he'd be leaving for battle the next day and put up the "duty as a married couple" crap as a pretense. but at the same time he did say he wasnt gonna force her so i had mixed feelings whether he really was a flatout asshole or not.
but i focused more on his attitude towards maxi in the future chapters + read the novel and im not hung up on it anymore cause theres more shit that went down
The first sex scene isn't meant to be romantic. I mean I highly, highly doubt that it was suppose to come off as romantic, hell even sexy for that matter. I didn't feel a damn thing for it it was more meh let's move on from it because you can tell neither of them where into it and just wanted to get it over with. Sure Maxi was scared, I mean who wouldn't be with it being their first time and it having been an arranged marriage by her father, someone who scares her to death. I think she did mainly to please her father in hope that he wouldn't berate her and beat her if she did a poor job. Her main purpose was to go under her father's radar by doing a good enough job. And we must remember that back in the time (Ressissance era(ish) going by the women fashion) believe this manhwa takes place women were seen nothing more then property and baby makers, not saying that it was great but that's just how it was back then. Riftan is by far not a bad MC because he actually treats Maxi very well, a lot better then her own family did
Is it just me or are y'all tired of pushy MLs who do shit without consent and talk about/make jokes about forcing the FL... Men are on thin fucking ice I swear to god. Gotta deal with bs irl and I don't wanna see that shit when I go and read romance fiction it's not okay. It's not romantic. Idk why everyone let's it slide all the time. It really just ruins everything from the get go for me. To anyone who's reading this, that behavior isn't okay. And sadly it's normalized. Ik there's lots of young readers on here who might not know better or much but I'm here to tell you that you shouldn't take any of the bs from anyone. Don't let fiction lead you and other people gaslight you into believing that this is okay. And I don't want any negative comments under my thread telling me "well it's just fiction so it's whatever" but it's not whatever considering fiction is a huge part into why people are mislead into believing shit like that is okay or romantic. Fiction does affect people's perspectives.
Well said! I'm glad to see lots of ppl not taking this kind of crap anymore
First, it's not authors job to rise kids who believe in fictional romances. Comics are mostly made for entertainment or authors own amusment, not educational purposes.
Second, you're reading this illegally. U ain't paying shit for authors work, no one is forcing u to read this or any of similar stories.
Read I'll do that marriage
you see this type of behaviour very commonly in men today (like literally everywhere I go my god) and they don't even realize their actions, blaming women instead because "they are women"
It is incest. Totally fucking incest. They were raised as siblings regardless of them being blood related or not. The world views them as siblings and they think they're siblings. Doesn't excuse this shit. Neither does it being a story excuses it. And anyway... If according to some of the spoilers, even if John is the Devil and the mothers wish was to have a son, didn't she still give birth to him in this form? Wasn't he still in the womb with Anette or something? Y'all are trying way too damn hard to excuse this shit that still isn't excusable.
Y'all need to calm down you can be attracted to someone without acting out on it or developing a serious crush on them. Pretty sure Todd just recognized how cool and chill Elena is, and how beautiful she is when she smiles. He's not gonna get in the way of the relationship between her and Johann, it's pretty obvious he isn't. Idk why y'all are so pressed about it. He cares more about Johann gaining an actual life outside of pleasing his family incessantly and knows that Elena is that ticket. Plus it doesn't even seem like he's THAT attracted to her he just noticed things, especially what made Johann like her.
Deadass like sum ppl be acting like just cause you blush that means u like sum one now. Like just because you called them pretty or something they be thinking that you have a full-blown crush on them. Like miss ma’am you doin too much don’t make me take that shit back