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Why are they all SO hot? Like I gotta remind myself that these guys are such assholes and abused and neglected TF outta her and she DIES in just about every route in the game cause Jeanette 2.0 shows up

So I feel hella torn about shit. The male characters are all walking a line between acceptable and shitty behavior and jumping back on forth on either side, except for like her oldest brother and Alex. Chris is alrightish in that aspect too I guess but like still he does say some stuff without asking Sanghee first but that's minor compared to other male characters. You think by now Sanghee would've asserted more dominance and be more confident? Yes and no, idk really because it takes time to change as a person and she's spent all of her current life sucking up to men just to live. So I dunno if the current state of the sexism in the story is done realistically or not judging by the amount of time it's taken to change. I wish stupid shit like the mutt and fetch thing we're gone by now though. If they want her to call the Oppa and brother then don't call her mutt and don't make her fetch. And I wish we'd see her advocate for other women more too. There's only been sparse incidents with the slaves but there needs to be way more.

Also let's talk about Chris. Some aspects I'm kinda blegh about like his inability to give up on her and his scheming but I do like him overall I guess. I'm curious as to what his background is. I think he might be the first emperor of the Inchan Empire, the dude who took power away from women. Or maybe someone related to him? He's probably, dare I say, THE strongest person in the series but I believe he's hiding his true power. From what we've seen he can incant some weird stuff to make people tell him the truth, he can create golems as replacements for people, and can easily detect others even if they are invisible. When he said goodbye to Sanghee it was indeed hinted that he knows more about the Holy One and other info. I think there's a lot more to him than what is being seen. I also would prefer if he was the first lead but alas... Second lead syndrome as always. I find his personality quite more interesting than Jinsu's.

Okay so there's a helluva lot of hot and sexy and beautiful male characters out there but UM Izana ? Putting on the moves like that ? Without hesitation ? So early on in the manhwa? Yes please hngngngngngngngnngngng like goddamn I'm getting seduced also. Legit I'm ready to go bust down at my BF's house and demand he seduces me because I wanna be seduced like that irl I fucking can't rn like thanks I have lunch with my dad today in a bit but all I wanna do is think about pretty fictional boys and my BF seducing and flirting with me.

I honestly can't hate her tbh, she just seems really innocent and eager but it's annoying. Very annoying. Girl needs to learn how to read the room a bit and know when the back off. Yes they're your family but have you ever considered how they feel about the situation? Shit takes time and it's best to always see how the other people in the situation feel. Obviously she has every right to see the king to a degree and stuff even if Athy showed displeasure and shit but girl doesn't even care to ask about anything.

Y'all are already ragging on our b Haeri. Tell me you wouldn't scream and be scared to death if some smoke flows into your room and transforms in a strange man. Tell me you wouldn't be beyond creeped and kick the fuck outta him if you woke up and he was holding you as if he loved you when you'd only met twenty minutes ago. Tell me you wouldn't fucking think of some genie shit when you find out he's a supposed god that you accidentally conjured from that incense burner like ? Y'all say she's annoying but she's acting pretty realistic compared to how most other female leads would act.

Like ? ? ? What do you want from her ? To have an instant nosebleed and faint ? For her ovaries to fucking implode spontaneously the moment she saw him and thus she knew she was in love ? ? ? ? Drop this if you think she's so annoying already. Don't be shy, drop it.

Why don't they just spell it as Achilles? It's literally pronounced the same. I swear isekai and reincarnation manhwas have the weirdest fucking names or spellings of names

This manhwa is so good I can't believe I held it off for so long. The art style is so lovely, one of my favorites from everything that I have read so far and I've been reading a LOT. And all the characters are very personable and unique (fuck the uncle tho he's a bitch). I really love all of them so much and all the royal siblings just perpetuate some good old bi confusion in me

I'm only on chapter 17 and I fucking hate hate hate Kris.

1: he sold Bella off like she's a piece of cattle, legit human trafficking
2: he rapes Bella repeatedly
3: he overthrew the former empire through brute force but didn't abolish slavery and their shitty religious bs so now he has to deal with the nobles that oppose him? Isn't the point kinda to kill them if you don't want opposition?

I really really hope Bella ends up with Eden. Man won me even more so over when he deadass stood up to Kris and asked if he got Bella's consent. But we all know he's probably the second lead. Makes me consider dropping this ngl :/ I hate the romanticization of abusers through their supposed "redemption" that suddenly washed away all the years of trauma and emotional, mental, and even physical scars.

NOTICE: THIS POST IS STILL VERY NEEDED CAUSE OF YALL. I WILL REPOST THIS WITH EVERY UPDATE IF I NEED TO. HALF OF YALL HAVE SOME FLAWED SHIT YOU NEED TO UNPACK.

OLD: I posted some of this awhile back but apparently I need to post it again as I still see lots of victim shaming towards Uriel because people are pissed he's interfering with the main ship and is found to be annoying. Personally I think he's fine?

But anyway, this is the worst comment section ever. Y'all are fucking wild. Victim blaming and shaming every where... The poor brother has every single right to react the way he does regarding the trauma the ML caused. He has PTSD. Him and his feelings are valid. Sure, you don't have to like him or whatever but he doesn't deserve to die and you can just "get" where the prince is coming because the brother is annoying/naive/too trusting/whatever dumb and unjustifiable reasoning you have. You guys just brush shit off or stay on the fence about whether or not Aquilla was a horrible person in the past which he WAS. I don't care what his reasoning was.

Aquilla has a very infamous reputation of being a ruthless, dictator-like person, and even a bit of a powder keg or ticking time bomb. Lamia and Uriel have every right to doubt his intentions when he all of a sudden does stuff that's highly out of character. Also, would you trust someone who purposefully abused and disabled you? Someone who abused and disabled your sibling? Hell fucking no. Trust generally does take some time to build but even more so when it is with a former person who has done beyond shitty things to you or a close friend or family member. Realistically y'all probably have a hard time forgiving ex friends or ex partners for whatever they did to you that was wrong. If one of those people in your life suddenly started to help you out of the blue and completely change tune you'd be wary and not easy to trust them because obviously there will be some notice behind it. Sure, Aquilla's motivation is loving Lamia but she doesn't know that and even if she did it still sounds hella shady because of his past track record.

Be realistic. Stop victim shaming and blaming. Y'all have a mentality in the sense of rape deniers when you say you doubt the second prince's abuse or side with him saying he's changed. "My son would never do that," "she was asking for it," "maybe she shouldn't have been drinking/partying/whatever the fuck somehow warrants a woman to get raped," "he's a good man you're just going to ruin his reputation," etc... All y'all say things that sound along those lines. "Uriel needed to stop being so naive/trusting/idealistic," "the second prince has changed now can't you see? Forgive him because he's saving your lives and pledged an oath," etc...

Unpack some stuff cause y'all really need to. Put aside your strong desire to just see your ship to sail because you're being shitty and perpetuating horrible attitudes and ones that are invalidating trauma.

So far I'm only up to chapter 43 but I am very pleased with this story and it has really touched me. It's one of the only manhwas that have succeeded in making me cry. It also displays an accurate portrayal of PTSD, which I don't see often in manhwas. The only other two that I have read that portrays PTSD or the affects of abuse accurately is Lamia Orphe is Dead and the twin isekai one (I forget the name of it oops). I have read other Webcomics that aren't manhwas that portray PTSD accurately too, like Space Boy, but I've seen an overwhelming amount of those that don't. Most stories only use PTSD as a small plot device to enhance the effect of mainly, the prior life of a reincarnation or isekai protagonist. Often times by the hands of their past family or their love interest. In the case of the love interest route, the MC ends up getting over their PTSD because all of a sudden they start liking the romance lead because they're treated differently in their second life, even though they are victims of abuse, rape, and even murder by the love interest in their former life. It's a horrible and sickening plot device. A new life and knowing a different side of the love interest can't possibly erase the abuse and terror inflicted upon the MC in their prior lives I don't know of any realistic cases of forgiveness and sudden loss of PTSD from victims of rape and abuse. Even those who are manipulated by their abusers and develop Stockholm Syndrome portray their effects from abuse for years.

During the trial, when Leslie's Uncle Taryn showed up and testified I started to cry. Hearing about his own abuse paired with Leslie's and the special sense of solidarity the bond they have, despite never meeting prior was heart breaking. I hope I see more of Taryn in the future. I feel like they both can help each other heal and work through their past abuse.

I quite love the Salvatore family. Each family member is very likeable in their own ways. Especially Beth I love him so much like he's so gentle and stoic and I'm hella attracted to him lol. Like please I want I hope he gets a good love interest later on in the series cause he hella deserves it. Konrad is also very sweet. I'm wondering if he is Leslie's main love interest but I am a little concerned about his age.

How large is the age gap? I feel very uncomfortable with age gaps about two years, three is pushing it, when the characters are in their teens or early into their adulthood before they start to reach their early twenties and as often there is a power imbalance in the relationship in which the older if the two manipulated the other to a degree, sometimes very severely. I was a victim to such a relationship and have since truly recognized how horrible and nasty it is. I had just turned 16 and he was turning 19. He was a former student at my high school who graduated at the end of my freshman year of high school.