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Herbie, the man

I've noticed this trend in some yaoi manga, when girls/women are "rejected" they always slap the guy and/or run away crying. Why do they feel that confessing to a guy demands an automatic "yes" and if not, they feel insulted? (Though I've seen a lot of men act like this, honestly.) I find this over-emotional portrayal of women amusing and at the same time irritating. If a man smacked a woman for turning him down, that would be sexual harassment, abuse, or physical assault (though some egotistical men with violence issues do take it as far as rape), but because it's a woman hitting a man, it's okay. Sorry for the long rant.

They portray women as scandalous, there was one where she only married him because he was going to be famous, until he broke his leg.

At least you understand how I feel so rant away

In Heart no Kakurega, main character gets dumped by his girlfriend after she finds out he lost everything when his apartment was burglarized. Yeah, yaoi women are scandalous, shallow, self-centered, money-hungry, materialistic. Everything men (and decent women) hate in a woman. They abandon and abuse their children, slap their crushes after being rejected, slap and storm out on poor confused boys who can't get/keep an erection,"kya kya" and gather in hordes around their "princes," or they're clueless, weak, constantly being cheated on, etc, etc. These kinds of girl characters are made to make us root for our favorite yaoi couple. I love being pleasantly surprised when I find a yaoi manga with strong, funny, and smart women, but they are the minority.

It's not just yaoi women. I've honestly found that the majority of females in all japanese manga tend to be extremely unrealistic (and that's a huge understatement). It's one of the main reasons I read yaoi. Women only appear as side characters. Very few have large roles unless they are put into an antagonist position (or something like a love triangle), and love triangles happen to be one of my least favorite scenarios in a romantic story. Every now and then you'll come across a really cool female character, but it doesn't happen very often. Even in shounen or shoujo the girls are really annoying. I mean who would scream and hit a boy for accidentally tripping in front of you just because you have a skirt on? I would ask someone to shoot me if I ever acted like these girls do.

I know I am late to this party, but I couldn't agree with you more! I was so confused when the kid in the last chapter politely refused the chick and she kicked the shit out of him. Like, wtf? Just because you have a vagina doesn't give you an automatic acceptance from any guy you choose or the right to assault him for refusing your advance.

BTW, you forgot to list "nosy" and "meddlesome". I read one manga where the girl wouldn't believe the guy had a male lover unless he "proved" it to her. Seriously?! Now his sex life has to be her personal fap material? Too creepy. She ended up being straight up psycho stalker material in the end.

Finally someone said this! Yes, I'm getting tired of these kinds of female characters. That's why I'm now trying to find manga with strong women in it, not whiny, materialistic, weak, self-centered, etc. It doesn't have to be Yaoi. I'm just tired of any manga portraying women in that way. (●￣(ｴ)￣●)

I always look for and make a special note of manga with strong, more realistic female characters. Another one of my biggest pet peeves is all of the "damsel in distress" characters. I don't know a single woman that wouldn't fight with all their might rather than just wait for someone to save them if they were put into some of the situations these characters are put into. I'm not saying there aren't any people like that, but I think they are the exception rather than the norm. To be completely fair, it isn't just manga that has an overabundance of these types of characters. They appear fairly often in western writing, too. I'm a strongly independent single mother, and I honestly find these characters fairly offensive.

i love anime and manga but im a hardcore femnist （/TДT)/ so when i see shit like that i get so mad but then when i go to sleep i imagne them to be strong indepent woman lol i guess that satifies me on a subconcius lvl but
i think they should change the wa they portray women its not like its gonna hurt anything it might actually cause more woman to watch anime and manga(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

I couldn't agree with you more. Like I said before, I sincerely dislike the vast majority of female characters. I really love manga, but the distaste I feel for most female characters has limited my range of what I'm willing to read. I read yaoi almost exclusively with very few exceptions.

So true. Shoujo especially drives me up the frickin' wall. I end up just wanting to slap some sense into them. And the men/boys in shoujo aren't much better - the rich boy, the prince, the bad boy, the "one who takes control," any combination of the previous and many more that I haven't listed. They've all slept with tons of girls but picks the one virgin to fall in love with, etc., etc., blah, blah...

Ikr (ب_ب)

you're right but...this is a "once in a lifetime situation in a manga"...I mean, usually you see the girl crying out loud or running away (while crying -.-) right after the rejection...so clichè!
at least she did something different eheheheheh xD

But a teacher? Sometimes it's just to much.

Well, he didn't just turn her down he actually told her that he liked guys, hence the slap.

That doesn't warrant a slap. Why get pissed if the guy isn't playing for the same team? That makes no sense at all. With that logic, I can go and slap the store owner because they refuse to sell a certain item. XD That's idiotic.

Cus she is not us ┗( T﹏T )┛
if our teacher told us he is a gay we'll be like(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
but she is normal so she was likeΣ( ￣□￣||)

I simply Love your reply xD ahahahahahhahah ╮(￣▽￣)╭

So true! I would follow them around and fan-girl (ik that's kind of creepy but you would to).

True

I'm not trying to be mean here, really, but think about what you're saying. You may call it something cute like "fangirl-ing", but how is your behavior any better than the creepy pedophile who watches little kids at the park and then goes home to whack off? You may not whack off, necessarily, but you are using other people to further your own fantasy. Worse, it's without their knowledge or consent. What you fantasize about fictional characters in a manga is harmless. But doing that to real live people is wrong. Your "fangirl" behavior could ruin someone's career and/or life if someone got the wrong idea from your behavior. You certainly wouldn't want some creeper following you around and making up sexual fantasies in their head about you and those around you. In fact, I'm betting you'd be super pissed off and disgusted if someone did that to you. Please think of others before you act or speak selfishly. Consider their position and treat them with the same courtesy you would expect to have directed at you. I'm a fujoshi too, but I keep my fantasies focused on fictional characters who can't be hurt, inconvenienced or slandered by them. Being a fujoshi is a wonderful thing, being a RESPONSIBLE fujoshi is even better.

I say all this not to be mean to you, but to protect friends that I have who have come under great scrutiny and duress from heteros who can accept homosexuality as long as they are not actually faced with it, all because a curious "fangirl" opened her mouth and spoke about her fantasies to the wrong person. Once people like that are faced with the possibility that a colleague or friend is homosexual, even if it is a lie, they freak out and become abusive, paranoid homophobes. This is what you are setting your "targets" up for. When I and my friends were younger, this kind of thing happened, but very rarely. Recently, it occurs quite often. Young women will "befriend" one of my gay friends simply to satisfy their twisted curiosity. Fellow humans are not like a new purse or pet you get to show off how cool and trendy you are. They have feelings and a life to live. Those get trampled all over when someone behaves in the way you've described above. Friends have lost jobs, lovers, their homes and one lost his life because an irresponsible young girl couldn't keep her fantasies limited to her own mind.

Say anything you want, fantasize about anything you want concerning fictional characters, I won't stop you or say a word. However, when you transfer that behavior to actual, real life people, I'm forced to speak up and speak out against it.

Mameiha, I've read what u wrote up and I think I get why you're giving this answer...
We were just talking about that situation in this manga and what we would've done if this girl was one of us (clearly we would have been understanding and we even probably woul've been supportive of the teacher)...I'm pretty sure that none of us is a fangirl.stalker or a "irresponsable fangirl-fujoshi"......

Again, I understand your answer and I think it comes from your prospective and your history behind this topic so I won't say anything (I'm not awere of all the facts but it seem not something light...)....

That's my opinion though, I may even be wrong (cause I'm not omnypotent but...) I'm pretty sure that all of us here (the ones who commented this post and more) are just fujoshi in love with yaoi and with all of the (sometimes) twisted love and romance portraied on these pages...(⌒▽⌒)

Thank you for your response and understanding. I'm very happy to hear you say those things. It's very easy to lose one's self in a fantasy and allow it to spill over into real life. Especially when you are young and impetuous. If what I have said here helps you and others pause, even for a moment, before making a mistake that could hurt others or yourself, I have succeeded. Thank you, also, for responding with maturity and grace. That maturity helps me feel confident that you, personally, are a responsible young woman with a "good head on her shoulders". I hope that others will read this and react exactly as you have. Again, thank you for your response and I look forward to talking with you again in the future.

It is I that I thank you Mameiha, you opened yourself with your experiences and I know it's not an easy thing to do.

I'm now happy to say I've found a friend in you....a person that, just like me, comes here to read and enjoy the simple pleasure that these mangas gives...
Sometimes all we need it's to watch something (that we know) will end up with an happy ending....the world itself it's alredy full of bad(yeah...I know it's an "elementary-school's word" but it has a meaning >_< ) and terrible things...

Ps I look forward to talking to u again, this time as friends (●'0'●)ﾉ bye

Even an "elementary school meaning" can make a great impact. I'm old and I have seen a lot of the "bad and terrible" things you mentioned. If I can prevent even one more from adding to the misery, I must do my best. Another way of preventing the "bad" things is to make as many "good" things happen as possible. Becoming friends with you, to me, is definitely one of those "good" things. Thank you. Until next time, have a great day.

loooooooool yes but you gotta admit that it was the cutest corruption ever ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

Yeah, he performed a demon summon ritual for the occult and BOOM. Corrupted like a creepy ass horror movie posseced doll.

To what are you referring? It was the Fantasy Shrine credit page for the manga "Repeat After Me" depicting a cork memo board with push pins, post-it notes and a picture of Yuusuke carrying text books.

I think it was a couple of pages before. I forgot the page number

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