say what you will but that man got consent first
coercion is not consent tho. everything that is not enthusiastic "yes" is a no, so when someone coax you into situation you are not comfortable by guilt tripping and manipulating you while you beg them to stop and it hurts, I'm afraid you are not having consensual intercourse.
uke is also not in position to have freedom to choose as he depend on much stronger inmates that can literally kill him. this is not a story where you will find consent
this comment section is snowflakes vs og readers
ain't no way bro just called people against rape "snowflakes"
Imagine being really butthurt about fake characters in a fake scenario. There is hundreds of other manhwas to read. In fact, go make your own and then you can do whatever you want with your make-believe characters.
SWEARRRR
Ain’t no way you’re using a strawman argument and assuming OG readers are not against rape or stories like Jinx.
First, Jinx depicts sexual assault, not rape. Second, reading stories like *Hogu Hagyeongsu* doesn’t mean someone supports rape; they can still condemn rape in real life. Do you read horror stories as your selections suggest? Does that mean you support murder? Your statement is a gross misrepresentation of reality.
Snowflakes = those who can’t read or understand this genre.
OG = those who understand this genre and don’t blur reality with fiction.
Why don’t you try to understand instead of making such harmful and misleading arguments?
https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/chainsaw_man/
This is one of GySix’s already read. It is bloody and has fantasy violence. I open two chapters and both had decapitations.
This is not my cup of tea. However, using GySix logic does this mean GySix supports violence and decapitation??
No?
Demon slayer is another one on GySix. It is bloody, fantasy violence, has deaths, people turning into demons, and eating human skin.
Does loving FANTASY violence equal to loving and supporting violence irl. No it is doesn’t.
Saying people who understand stories with fantasy sexual violence supports sexual violence irl is a harmful
misleading strawman argument. It is disturbing how people try to hurt others especially with such flawed logic.
I have extensively explained on my alt account TMSM that rape in yaoi stories are fantasies for women in particular, in fact women fantasizing about rape is normal and healthy. I will disregard all the panels where clear rape from Jaekyung onto Dan is portrayed, because I wish to diminish the crime from rape to mere sexual assault. Moreover, if we arr talking about rape, Dan is the only rapist in the story for taking advantage of drunk Jaekyung despite the fact that Jaekyung proved to initiate it all other times when sober. If we are still counting, all users who accuse of Jaekyung for being a rapist are rapists themselves. As they have added rape in a story that doesn't contain it. I will bring in more of my alt accounts in the near future when I need more support.
And by my own definition, I am the snowflake. Because I don't understand the story thanks to wilful ignorance. Although, I will proclaim to be a super-fan of jinx. That said, I never share my opinion. I never contradict myself either. In my opinion, Jaekyung never raped Dan. That's a fact though.
The first two comments from "Persistent Quill" are mine. However, the subsequent comments are from a cyberstalker attempting to steal my identity. They are spreading falsehoods and pretending to be their targets, engaging in deflection and gaslighting. Please don't engage with these comments. I will change my name each time they copy me to avoid further confusion.
The account above is my cyberstalker. Do not engage.
The last l comment from "Determined. Writer" is from a cyberstalker attempting to steal my identity. They are spreading falsehoods and pretending to be their targets, engaging in deflection and gaslighting. I will change my name each time they copy me to avoid further confusion.
They will copy this one too. They probably will copy and paste this post. So look at the accounts. We have different account creations and have different topics. They are aggressive and hostile obsessed with their targets as their targets try to engage in respectful conversation.
The user above was formally known as Morning diamonds, yes that rape defender and self admitted predator. Beware of his gaslighting tactics. Thank you for your attention.
The last l comment from "Valiant Voice" is from a cyberstalker attempting to steal my identity. They are spreading falsehoods and pretending to be their targets, engaging in deflection and gaslighting. They are obsessed with Morning Diamonds and are spreading misinformation about them. I am not Morning Diamonds. They are using an intimidation tactic. What they are saying here is them being honest about themselves as they pretend to be their targets and pretend their targets said what they said.
I will change my name each time they copy me to avoid further confusion.
They will copy this one too. They probably will copy and paste this post. So look at the accounts. We have different account creations and have different topics. They are aggressive and hostile obsessed with their targets as their targets try to engage in respectful conversation
Now. If you take a moment to understand.
I have a cyberstalker who is attempting to steal my identity and harm others. They want to slience others that are different from them or force them into their opinions.
This is more than your strawman argument.
Let’s revisit this and match it to the true as shown here.
Snowflakes = those who can’t read or understand this genre. This person can’t handle anything other than their opinion to where they will harass to cyberstalk others spreading false information about their targets.
OG = those who understand this genre and don’t blur reality with fiction.
I am schizophrenic and I am fighting air.
By my own definition, me and my alt accounts Morning diamonds TMSM and Aloha are so called ''snowflakes''. I refuse to believe Jaekyung raped Dan therefore he hasn't and everyone is wrong.
That last two comments from "Resilient Narrator is the cyberstalker and not my frined. You can tell the difference. Engaging meaningfully is challenging when identity theft and spam attacks complicate the discourse. it is easy to tell the cyberstalkers from the targets. The Cyberstalkers mock, harm, and misrepresent targets, making constructive dialogue difficult.
It’s important to recognize that the ongoing cyberstalking is a reflection of the stalker’s own insecurities and personal issues rather than any genuine conflict with the targets. The cyberstalker’s actions seem to stem from a grudge or a reaction to being proven wrong and called out for their behavior. Their attempts to impersonate targets and disrupt conversations highlight their own discomfort and insecurity.
Rather than focusing on the targets, the cyberstalker should address their own issues and let go of their vendetta. Their behavior only exposes their own self-doubt and internal struggles. It’s clear that their actions are more about their personal dissatisfaction than any real issues with the individuals they are targeting.
Let’s continue to focus on maintaining a respectful and constructive dialogue. We should avoid engaging with individuals who are clearly acting out of personal animus and remain committed to positive interactions.
The cyberstalker brought in his alt account above. Beware as he used that account to groom a minor and impersonate another user with which he harassed her because she wasn't a rape apologist.
The account above is the real Morning diamonds.
That bold Advocate and Safety Sentinel are cyberstalkers.
The Cyberstalkers mock, harm, and misrepresent targets, making constructive dialogue difficult. They spread falsehood that only fits them as they are deflecting.
It’s important to recognize that the ongoing cyberstalking is a reflection of the stalker’s own insecurities and personal issues rather than any genuine conflict with the targets. The cyberstalker’s actions seem to stem from a grudge or a reaction to being proven wrong and called out for their behavior. Their attempts to impersonate targets and disrupt conversations highlight their own discomfort and insecurity.
Rather than focusing on the targets, the cyberstalker should address their own issues and let go of their vendetta. Their behavior only exposes their own self-doubt and internal struggles. It’s clear that their actions are more about their personal dissatisfaction than any real issues with the individuals they are targeting.
Let’s continue to focus on maintaining a respectful and constructive dialogue. We should avoid engaging with individuals who are clearly acting out of personal animus and remain committed to positive interactions.
The cyberstalker's alt account is Shielded guard. Do not be fooled by his gaslighting and use of Chatgpt to misconduct the truth.
The Cyberstalkers mock, harm, and misrepresent targets, making constructive dialogue difficult. They spread falsehood that only fits them as they are deflecting. They have copied this. Do they understand it?
It’s important to recognize that the ongoing cyberstalking is a reflection of the stalker’s own insecurities and personal issues rather than any genuine conflict with the targets. The cyberstalker’s actions seem to stem from a grudge or a reaction to being proven wrong and called out for their behavior. Their attempts to impersonate targets and disrupt conversations highlight their own discomfort and insecurity.
Rather than focusing on the targets, the cyberstalker should address their own issues and let go of their vendetta. Their behavior only exposes their own self-doubt and internal struggles. It’s clear that their actions are more about their personal dissatisfaction than any real issues with the individuals they are targeting.
Let’s continue to focus on maintaining a respectful and constructive dialogue. We should avoid engaging with individuals who are clearly acting out of personal animus and remain committed to positive interactions.
This does not fit to me or any of their targets.
Then are you saying you're the cyberstalker? You fit thr description perfectly.
Aint no wayyy buddy just compared reading chainsaw man to jinx
Persistent quill pls stfu and crawl back into your mothers basement.
AINT NOOOO WAY DUDE JUS SAID WOMAN HAVE RAPE FANTASIES AND THAT ITS HEALTHY??? WHERE TF DID YOU EVEN GET THIS INFO, PLANET NO WHERE??
Someone doxx this man before he ends up hurting a woman that "wanted it".
I said what I said. Rape fantasies is normal and healthy. Tmsmyz is my other account. So is Morning diamonds in the comments.
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14448911
Hi everyone,
We previously advised avoiding engagement with cyberstalkers, but it appears that one of the individuals involved may be an alt account or closely associated with those who are stalking. I said this for many reasons and not just they are going with what a cyberstalker said. The cyberstalkers have been misrepresenting statements made by my friends and have even tried to use my friend's identity fraudulently.
I want to clarify some recent discussions about rape fantasies and their interpretation. It has come to my attention that my views have been misrepresented and taken out of context.
The information shared, supported by reputable sources like HealthyPlace, Psychology Today, and Medium, was meant to provide an objective understanding of the psychological aspects of rape fantasies. Key points include:
Rape Fantasies vs. Real-life Rape: Rape fantasies are a common psychological phenomenon and should not be conflated with real-life rape. These fantasies do not indicate a desire for real-life rape or justify any form of non-consensual sexual activity.
Purpose of the Information: The goal was to present research-based insights, not to endorse or condone harmful behavior. Understanding the distinction between fantasy and reality is crucial and was intended to avoid any misinterpretation.
Ongoing Misrepresentation: Despite repeated clarifications, my position is still being misrepresented. It has always been stated that no one deserves to be raped, and having rape fantasies does not reflect actual desires for real-life rape.
Doxxing and Misuse of Information: Some individuals are using this situation to attempt doxxing and other harmful behaviors. If you have concerns about the information shared, please direct your inquiries to the authors of the articles from the cited credible sources rather than targeting individuals involved.
I urge everyone to engage with the provided sources to understand the context and avoid relying on distorted interpretations. Please do not interact with the cyberstalkers, who are trying to create confusion and harm. We are not the individuals they claim us to be.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
In short, I believe that rape fantasies is common, normal and healthy.
It seems there's been a significant misunderstanding or misrepresentation surrounding the discussions and research shared by the real TM who is not in this thread. And this misrepresentation is from a cyberstalker who was pretending to be persistent Quill and this misrepresentation has been corrected many times.
The cybersalkers are misrepresenting the facts because they can't handle what is said. This is not something to attack people on.
May 16, 2024 12:51 am
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14448911/?page=2
I wanted to reach out to clear up any misunderstandings regarding the articles TM shared about rape fantasies. TM intentions in sharing those articles was to initiate a discussion about a complex and often misunderstood topic, not to endorse or condone any form of sexual violence or coercion
We want to emphasize that we do not endorse or condone any form of sexual violence or coercion. To clarify that sharing these articles does not imply support for such actions. If anyone read this they would know this.
I understand that the topic can be sensitive and I want to emphasize that his motivation for discussing it stems from a desire to speak out against injustice and empower those who may have been made to feel wrong or silenced. He observed numerous attacks on individuals based on assumptions that enjoying stories with or believed to having rape equates to condoning rape, which is a harmful misconception. By sharing these articles, he aimed to provide a foundation for understanding the diverse perspectives and psychological factors surrounding this issue.
This topic was made after Rose, a rape survivor was told to go kill herself and the one that said it was someone who posted here. Instead of addressing that or being negative. TM attempted to resolve an issue to stop the hating on people and speak out against injustice. Rape fantasies are fantasies. It seems someone is blurring reality with fantasy.
This research was purely educational, to shed light on the diverse perspectives and psychological factors surrounding this issue. Criticizing anyone for sharing factual information does not contribute constructively to the conversation or change the factual information. Now, this post has been misinterpreted or misrepresented by aggressors.
This topic will not be removed. It is factual and to help many people. Most of all it was to stop the hate by understanding core facts.
Thanks for your understanding
The real TM posted research
"—— research
https://www.healthyplace.com/abuse/rape/rape-fantasy-does-it-mean-you-want-to-be-raped
“Human sexuality experts emphatically state that rape fantasy is not wrong, but healthy and normal.”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-myths-sex/202003/why-are-rape-fantasies-so-common?amp
“As you can see, forced sex fantasies have a rich psychology behind them and people may have these fantasies for wildly different reasons. In many cases, these fantasies don’t have a deeper meaning beyond someone just having an active imagination, a desire for sexual thrills, or a penchant for domination and submission. However, in other cases, they may have their roots in coping with trauma.”
https://metro.co.uk/2017/11/29/why-do-half-of-women-have-fantasies-about-being-raped-7099630/amp/
“In real-life contexts, rape – meaning sex against your will – is deeply traumatising. It’s not at all ‘sexy’. It’s an intense violation that causes high levels of distress.”
https://medium.com/sexography/can-we-fantasise-about-raping-people-687c1e296dfc
“And it’s incredibly important to note that while rape fantasies are common, this does not mean that women secretly want to be raped. There is a huge difference between acted out role-play, imagined scenarios, and real-life experiences. No one asks to be raped, no one deserves to be raped, and how common forced sex fantasies are in no way justifies unwanted sexual contact of any nature.
After research on the subject, psychologists and sexologists agree today that those fantasies are very common, completely healthy, and reveal a core element in female eroticism.
First of all, there is an important distinction between such fantasies and an actual rape experience. In no way does having the fantasy imply a desire to be raped in real life. Psychologist Michael Castleman, in his article Why Do Women Have Rape Fantasies? on Psychology Today, dismisses as obsolete the view that fantasies always reflect wishes. Therefore, women who have rape fantasies do not actually want to be coerced into sex.”
https://www.nowtolove.com.au/amp/health/sex/why-women-read-erotic-fiction-17262
“ Yet the role played by erotic fiction and fantasy is an important one, says sexologist and director of Sexology Australia, Elaine George. "Erotic fiction, in particular, enables a woman to get carried away with her sense of imagination and imaginary play," she says.
"That imaginary play can be with a lover. It can be with multiple lovers. And it can be inventing a scenario that enables her to become erotically charged.”
She may NEVER want to be with multiple lovers or could be against it in reality.
“ Why do women read erotic fiction?
Distraction and feelings of ease were identified as prime rewards associated with reading erotic novels.”
The key message is that the sharing of these articles was meant to educate and challenge harmful assumptions, not to support or endorse any form of sexual violence. The clarification aims to dispel any confusion and prevent further misrepresentation.
In short, If you have concerns or questions about the information shared, we urge you to direct your inquiries to the authors of the articles from the cited credible sources rather than targeting individuals involved in this discussion.
The misrepresentation of information has been corrected multiple times, and continuing to use debunked claims only reflects poorly on those who propagate them. It is important to base discussions on accurate and verified information rather than resorting to attacks or misinformation.
Although, they are very clear in their stance that rape fantasies in woman to be normal and healthy. And that pedophilia is 13 and below.
Please avoid engaging with the cyberstalkers who are impersonating others. They’re trying to create confusion and escalate the situation. Responding can make things worse. For your safety and to prevent further harm, it’s best to ignore and block them rather than interacting.
The misrepresentation of information has been corrected multiple times, and continuing to use debunked claims only reflects poorly on those who propagate them. It is a fact rape fantasies in woman to be normal and healthy. And that pedophilia is 13 and below.
If you have concerns or questions about the information shared, we encourage you to consult the original sources or credible references rather than targeting individuals involved in the discussion. Engaging with authoritative sources or experts is the best way to get accurate information.
Here Morning diamonds, I 100% came up with more undername ideas.
1. Iron Bastion
2. Vigilant Herald
3. Resolute Vanguard
4. Unbreakable Scout
5. Constant Sentinel
6. Ironclad Watcher
7. Unshakeable Writer
8. Resolute Flame
9. Indomitable Wall
10. Steady Defender
11. Vigilant Anchor
12. Unyielding Scribe
13. Immutable Guardian
14. Faithful Protector
15. Unfaltering Sentry
16. Tenacious Custodian
17. Brave Defender
18. Resolute Guard
19. Resolute Compass
20. Rocksteady Shield
21. Resolute Keeper
22. Solid Advocate
23. Shielded Herald
24. Unwavering Anchor
25. Watchful Guardian
26. Steady Navigator
27. Constant Writer
28. Loyal Sentinel
29. Resolute Bastion
30. Tenacious Scout
31. Unflinching Sentry
32. Stronghold Advocate
33. Sturdy Scribe
34. Reliable Watcher
35. Invincible Keeper
36. Vigilant Sentry
37. Firm Shield
38. Unyielding Warden
39. Immutable Watch
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41. Steady Sentinel
42. Guardian Flame
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44. Steady Scribe
45. Constant Guard
46. Relentless Protector
47. Vigilant Vanguard
48. Firm Custodian
49. Faithful Scribe
50. Loyal Defender
51. Resolute Watcher
52. Trustworthy Warden
53. Vigilant Sentinel
54. Dedicated Sentry
55. Unyielding Guard
56. Stronghold Shield
57. Unshakeable Protector
58. Immutable Flame
59. Steady Custodian
60. Vigilant Keeper
61. Relentless Scribe
62. Ironclad Custodian
63. Indomitable Anchor
64. Sturdy Warden
65. Brave Guardian
66. Unflinching Flame
67. Constant Keeper
68. Tenacious Warden
69. Loyal Anchor
70. Steadfast Custodian
71. Unfaltering Guard
72. Resolute Anchor
73. Unbreakable Keeper
74. Solid Sentinel
75. Vigilant Flame
76. Rocksteady Guard
77. Faithful Watcher
78. Unshakeable Scribe
79. Constant Sentry
80. Dedicated Flame
81. Unwavering Scribe
82. Immutable Defender
83. Vigilant Watcher
84. Steadfast Shield
85. Unflinching Warden
86. Ironclad Guardian
87. Sturdy Sentinel
88. Loyal Flame
89. Faithful Custodian
90. Resolute Warden
91. Unyielding Anchor
92. Relentless Shield
93. Unbreakable Sentry
94. Firm Guardian
95. Vigilant Scribe
96. Immutable Sentinel
97. Sturdy Shield
98. Unflinching Custodian
99. Steadfast Watcher
100. Indomitable Sentry
Here are a couple more that I literally just came up with.
1. Granite Guard
2. Staunch Sentinel
3. True Defender
4. Constant Sentinel
5. Eternal Sentry
6. Unwavering Watch
7. Noble Protector
8. Sturdy Bastion
9. Bold Custodian
10. Loyal Shield
11. Iron Guardian
12. Solid Watcher
13. Steady Hand
14. Steady Flame
15. Resolute Sentinel
16. Resolute Light
17. Vigilant Wall
18. Unfailing Sentinel
19. Fearless Watcher
20. Resolute Vigil
21. Stronghold Guardian
22. Unflinching Advocate
23. Faithful Wall
24. Resolute Guard
25. Vigilant Watcher
26. Eternal Guardian
27. Solid Sentry
28. Resilient Shield
29. Vigilant Defender
30. Tenacious Anchor
31. Resolute Defender
32. Trusted Sentry
33. Faithful Anchor
34. Rocksteady Sentinel
35. Constant Shield
36. Vigilant Beacon
37. Unyielding Protector
38. Reliable Guardian
39. Vigilant Keeper
40. Steadfast Flame
41. Resolute Scribe
42. Stalwart Defender
43. Unshakable Beacon
44. Loyal Wall
45. Vigilant Navigator
46. Ironclad Sentinel
47. Solid Guardian
48. Noble Anchor
49. Unbreakable Guardian
50. Steady Shield
51. Firm Beacon
52. Ironclad Custodian
53. Fearless Sentinel
54. Immutable Anchor
55. Loyal Guard
56. Stronghold Flame
57. Steadfast Watcher
58. Tenacious Shield
59. Unwavering Keeper
60. Stalwart Scribe
61. Solid Defender
62. Vigilant Custodian
63. Bold Sentry
64. Unshakeable Sentinel
65. Faithful Bastion
66. Steadfast Guardian
67. Stalwart Flame
68. Immutable Guard
69. Loyal Sentinel
70. Unflinching Watcher
71. Noble Defender
72. Rocksteady Keeper
73. Stalwart Anchor
74. True Sentinel
75. Resilient Custodian
76. Unbreakable Shield
77. Steadfast Defender
78. Sturdy Guardian
79. Bold Sentinel
80. Immutable Sentry
81. Firm Guardian
82. Vigilant Wall
83. Noble Shield
84. Steadfast Keeper
85. Tenacious Custodian
86. Unfailing Watcher
87. Loyal Beacon
88. Sturdy Custodian
89. Firm Keeper
90. Noble Warden
91. Unflinching Shield
92. Rocksteady Defender
93. Constant Anchor
94. Unshakeable Watcher
95. Unwavering Guardian
96. Bold Shield
97. Vigilant Hand
98. Resolute Flame
99. Noble Watcher
100. Reliable Sentinel
I am not reading all that LOL. Yall stay safe tho
I 100% agree. Also Dan is the rapist.
To everyone reading, please be aware that someone is repeatedly stealing identities and spreading false information in an attempt to silence differing opinions. These actions don't change the facts or the targets opinions—they just demonstrate desperation and an inability to engage in honest discussion. Every time they resort to cyberstalking and impersonation, it only highlights their weakness and the futility of their efforts.
They are deliberately trying to create confusion and spread falsehoods by stealing identities and making baseless accusations. By continuously stealing identities, you're not proving a point; you're showing that you can't handle open discussion and have to resort to deception instead.
But let it be clear: these attempts won’t deter us. In fact, they only strengthen our resolve to continue standing up against these dishonest practices. Everything they steal our identities or resort to cyberstalking, it only reinforces that they are unable to refute the points made with substance. These actions do not change the truth. They just demonstrate their desperation. No matter how many times they copy us it will not silence the truth or change anything.
I encourage others to recognize these actions for what they are: a waste of time and a sign of someone who can't engage constructively. Please don't be misled by these tactics, and if you witness this behavior, I urge you to ignore it to the platform moderators. The more we stand together against this, the less power these cyberstalkers will have to disrupt our conversations.
Their efforts will never silence the truth or change our stance. If anything, they prove just how important it is to keep speaking up.
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Ignore above comment. That’s my cyber troll who likes copying me.
“ I urge you to ignore.” I forgot to edit that. It was report it to the platform moderator but that does nothing.
Lol claiming I copied them as they stolen my friend’s identity and pretending to be them.