Eve005's Topics (12)

I salute you incredibly for being able to say this, especially knowing of the kinds of fans ORV and Trash count have. I agree with you so much, except I would like to change the part of "breathed such life into the MC." I feel like EVERY SINGLE character in the book was breathed with such life into them, none were ever forgotten, misused or misplaced. They all meant something in the book, and it was just so refreshing and nice to read.

So sorry for going off the rails, but like you I look forward to the next arc as well :) so glad to see someone having the same opinion as me tbh this novel is fucking insanely good.

I'm part of caleism(a separate fans of tcf fandom where people are obsessed of cale) but i agree that this is good, this is actually my fav big three manhwas! i like how he thinks and the romance too! I'm fan of their ways of showing affections!

You're not alone buddy, It's my favourite in it's category

*its

Hard agree. As someone who has read both orv and tcf, this far surpasses both of them. There is such humanity to these characters, and no character's struggles are used to glorify the MC. The MC suffers with the character. The fantasy is on-point, but the use of fantasy is to show the human attitude and psyche, which i think orv and tcf don't do. They are great, but their focus is on overcoming the next stage/villain/life-threatening event. Here, there are stakes and life threatening events and awesome fights, but they are purely the backdrop. They do not keep a reader engaged in a story. The characters do, and SSS understands that so well.

Sorry for the long rant, I just relate to you so much.

For me ORV is the best and nothing can top it, but I see where you're coming from. TCF is also a fire story (though I have yet to read the novel for it). But this story is really good and while not as complex as ORV, it's still amazingly written and the characters are fleshed out really well. Like you can tell the author worked hard making them because there's so much detail to everything.

And not all ORV or TCF fans are crazy bro dw

Now that you say it, I hard agree with you! I love how unapologetically the MC loves others.

He loves his teacher(s). He loves his friends. He loves his lover. He eventually loves a lot of people, some of them not even human, in this series. And his love is selfless, he accepts them for who they are. He doesn't try to cheat using his ability. But instead tries to use his ability to love them even more. And him loving them, makes us the readers also love them.

Heck he even loves the inquisitor, who is literally a serial killer. I could never do that. Which is why I admire him.

He reminds me of Natsume from the manga Natsume and his book of friends. In terms of the quiet, unguarded, unapologetic, and non judgemental way he loves and tries to understand everyone he encounters. ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

Yes this is it. Cale is stoic as a character. In a way, we as readers understand that he loves his people. And funnily enough, his people also recognises that the things he does, is his way of protecting them. But Cale sees himself as doing it for selfish reasons. To live an "easy life" lol.

Whereas Kim Gongja just goes around telling people he loves them. And he not only tells them, he shows them. I guess I just fell in love with this shameless character. He is cringe personified. But in a good way! ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

Yes yes! You get what I mean exactly!

I'm not sure if you have read the novel, but even with the translation, you can feel the MC's suffering for the other characters.

I read the Manhwa first, before binge reading the novel. And it first hit me in the floor 10 scene. He felt the injustice those kids went through. He felt the fire they went through. And it is why, he felt FOR the children. And which is why we also as readers, feel for both the MC and the kids. That scene, where he looks back at you, with a forlorn look, because he read the level, and he recognises that the children allowed everyone to leave. Even through the fire, they could have burned the other players to death. They could have chosen to be vengeful. But no, instead they let them go. Because they just wanted to play hide and seek. They just wanted to be found. ╥﹏╥

Both the novel and Manhwa makes you feel one with the MC. You see things through the MC's eyes. And the MC sees other characters through his skill. Which means you also feel and learn to love all the other characters. It's a very good use of the fantasy world and the skill in particular.

No no, I get you. I'm still a hardcore ORV and TCF fan. I also love S classes that I raised. (i.e. these are recommendations for anyone who is reading through this thread).

I first fell in love with the fantasy genre through Solo leveling. Like I assume many others will have. There I loved the art, the gaming inspired dungeon world. And the character leveling up so to speak. (I personally don't like the ending though, but that's a different conversation).

Then I can across the above three series. And I fell in love with the found family aspect, within the fantasy setting. I also loved how the MCs were able to use the fantasy setting to their advantage. Both Dokja and Cale, find innovative solutions, to basically save the other characters. Which is why I love them.

But here, I guess the difference is that Gongja doesn't only try to save them. He also tries to understand them. He is a very empathetic guy. I guess I admire him for that reason. He also has a wacked sense of finding solutions. Like killing himself 4000 times, over what 11 years (?), is a crazy ass thing to do. He is selfish and power hungry. But in a relatable way.

I guess the difference for me, personally of course, is that I admire Cale and Dokja. And I want to be like them. But in Gonja's case. I admire him. But I never would like to be like him lol. The guy is a wacko. I would prefer to be one of his friends instead.

But to reiterate, ORV and TCF are still in my top three novels I will reread to the end of my life. It's just that I will reread SSS class suicide hunter maybe an extra time more.

(づ￣ ³￣)づ

I totally agree! Im also a fan of all three especially like u said orv and tcf but if those are gold Tier, this is diamond Tier. It's amazing! I also really love the romance arc in this one, it was actually mind blowingly amazing!!!

Can you send the link? ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

https://www.novelupdates.com/series/trash-of-the-counts-family/?pg=45#myTable

I have a question! :)
Do people in the novel, specifically Choi Han, find out that Cale is actually Korean and not from that world?

And does Cale’s personality ever change. Does he soften up a bit?

Yeah, Choi Han knows that Cale from Korea starts from Chapter 400+, and after that Alberu also finds out about it in Chapter 500 + ...ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

Of course his personality get more soften up as time goes by.. but yeaahh ╮(￣▽￣)╭ that tsundere side of his always make him think he was a bad guy lol, even though he had save many people...
Haahh that poor human, hope he get his slacker life after everything get resolved (￣∇￣") (sorry for bad grammar)

I think he softens up a bit because of the kids. When Raon tried to overuse his power in AHEM *spoiler* the castle, Cale raised his voice on Raon! I think he was scared that Raon would overdo it and get hurt... It was super cute!

My opinion is that cale has never been 'hard'. It's just that he's fooling himself to believe that he is, but in actuality he adopts these bunch of children and a bunch of friends, who all love and respect him, and tries to prevent the end of this world.

*Slight spoiler*
The only reason he is a bit standoffish is because of what happened to him in Korea. And honestly, when they reveal what happened, and how choi Han at least finds out, that entire story line is so well done.
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The story did drag a bit in the middle, but do carry on, the pay off is absolutely worth it!

Oh thank you! I didn't want to spoil myself too too much. But honestly spoilers are the only thing that motivates me to read stuff like that. What was Choi Hans reaction when he found out that Cale was also Korean? Shocked?

Well em, shocked, happy, sad? Liker he was happy he werent the only one grom Earth, sad because Cale didnt tell him and shocked because he didnt think Cale was from another world? I dont rlly remember that so much

*BIG BIG SPOILER*







LIKE SERIOUSLY CH 600ish spoiler. So read at your own discretion.







So there's an entire arc where Cale gets to go back to Korea for some time. And some (you can guess who) characters also get to go with him. They get to see what life was like, Cale gets to meet some of his old teammates. There's some time travelish elements so I won't spoil any more, but honestly this was my favourite bit. I like how Cale makes peace with that world. He's a bit OP, so seeing character moments like that are really nice.

Whats their twitter @?

@tanjiu9

Should have mentioned that, lol.

it is explained in one of the last four pages

It's explained on the last page, it's like a "pinky swear", they'd cut off their pinky finger and give it to the man they truly love as a sign of love. Sort of how you'd keep a lock of hair or an accessory or something to remember your lover/family by.

Here are some clue for ye, logic seeker... XD
1. Broken (Pinky) promise
2. Violating local "law"
3. Expired goods;Severing one's connections
4. Proof of one's existence

Im just sayin what I think it means. It might be wrong.
So they had a wager that who won that game of go would get something from the other. I think he won and they slept together. She said that she wanted another game and I feel she wanted him to come back and take her away. But he could not and she had become pregnant.
This caused her to fall from her rank of a high ranking courtesan and the only way she could be of value was to serve men at night.
So I think she cut her and the tip of her child's pinkie and sent it to him as a curse- "you broke a promise."
I could go into more detail if you want.

I don't think she cut the child's pinkie... that just seemed like an inherited trait. For eg. I have a crooked big toe that only some members of my mom's family have.

Wow that's some good explanation right there. I was confused a bit. Thanks for elaborating

When monocle dude(I don't remember his name) opens the pouch there is the pinkie and a smaller bit. But he didn't know what the smaller bit was, wondering if it was dirt)
When he saw the pinkie he understood that the talks of the courtesan being redeemed were stopped because she became pregnant with his child. She sent her pinkie to curse him for ruining her life. (Should I explain how he ruined her life and why she went crazy?)
When he goes tothe brothel, he learns she is dead.
That's when he sees maomao and probably thought of how she resembled the courtesan, but probably denied the possibility.
Note that she and the courtesan were the only ones whose faces are not shown as blank or as chess pieces. Even his uncle whom he looks up to, has a rook piece as his face.
Then he sees maomao with his uncle and sees that the tip of her pinkie is crooked and that's when he remembers that little bit in the pouch and realises that it was the tip of his child's pinkie. He realises that maomao is his daughter.
There's also that nightmare maomao had. The one where a crazy looking woman brought down a knife at her(maomao) hand. Probably the memory of her mother cutting her pinkie.
You should also consider the possibility that maomao's mother resented her.

Sorry, I just really like analysing stuff

Oh wow you're right. I thought the little bit was some excess flesh or something, totally didn't realise that it was a fingertip. You have amazing observational skills, I'm so impressed.

Thank you so much, especially for spelling it out in such detail, I really missed all the clues! This actually really makes a lot of sense.

Omniscient reader's viewpoint and Trash of the count's family are my favorite ꉂ(ˊᗜˋ )

Do you have any links for an english tranlated novel : The S classes that I raised? I would love to read the second one that you highly recommended.(⌒▽⌒)

Can you please send a link of the novels (=・ω・=)

omg I also wanna know where do you read those novels. I also suggest Solo Levelling's novel, I Alone Leveled Up (if I'm not mistaken) as well as Second Life Ranker and Kill the Hero. Memorize too.

Hi for translations check for the novels at https://www.novelupdates.com/

They will have the latest translations below the descriptions under the title "Latest Release". Just click on the chapter you want to read with the link on the right (i.e. "Release")

go to wuxiaworld.com and search the trash of the count's family

1. Trash of the Count's Family:
https://www.wuxiaworld.com/novel/trash-of-the-counts-family

2. The S-Classes That I Raised:
https://boxnovel.com/novel/the-s-classes-that-i-raised/

3. Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint:
https://boxnovel.com/novel/omniscient-readers-viewpoint/
(Manhwa chapters are also coming out here and on Webtoon, please leave a like there இωஇ thank you very much):
https://m.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/omniscient-reader/list?title_no=2154

4. Dominion’s End:
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/dominions-end/

And a combo:

5. The Second Coming of Gluttony:
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-second-coming-of-gluttony/

Yeah these are pretty good too! It's just that they are usually OP MC's who work 'solo'. Sometime I crave some family or friendship relationships with the MC but not romance focused. It's very specific lol, so maybe that's why it's rare. I've heard good things about "My Death Flags Show No Sign of Ending" but haven't read it yet. For the novels check out novelupdates.com

How could I forget about Solo Leveling/I Alone Leveled Up
https://www.readlightnovel.org/solo-leveling

Thank you

Omy. I also read some in novelupdates but sometimes it's either they are discontinued or they have very slow update. Anyway, thank you for sharing! (=・ω・=) definitely read those.

Indeed! I also craved novels which are family based relationships that's why I was immediately into TCF. But TCF is I think the best for me in that area.

thank you so much, im glad you enjoyed the story as much as i did. r=even though its not very popular here. im glad it has brought a smile even to a few faces.