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OK. Yall NEED to understand that in a real life scenario, THIS IS TECHNICALLY SA. Why? Because she clearly revoked consent by saying no many times, he "lost control" (which isnt a thing irl) and made her feel unsafe and even physically harmed. It is VALID for people to be disturbed by this.
It will end up okay because he WILL be punished by her for it by her, and likely wont do it again. They will be FINE.
But we need to understand that in REAL LIFE it is not normal or okay to "lose control" like that, and that it is GOOD for people calling it out.
If you are in the comments saying its "not rape" you genuinely need to research what rape and rape culture are.
I love you for this
thank u, it means a lot bc ive commented this sort of thing under a lot of other manga/webtoons over the years and it normally gets me a massive amount of hate
Agreed
Yep. People need to understand this. They should've put a trigger warning on this chapter. Did they? I can't remember.
Like media has the power to influence people, so they should be careful with stuff like this. With this many people invalidating his non-con, gullible people would think marital SA or SA by partner isn't SA
Listen guys.
Whatever action that goes against your consent, is wrong.
Hi again you commented on a thread of mine. I wanted to apologize I thought about it and re read it your right although I believe he really didn't hear her. She still revoked consent many times while crying so I can see how she could also have felt scared & unsafe In that moment. Although when engaging in sexual intercourse sometimes we can get caught in the moment it is still our duty to check in on are partners. Not sure if you saw my previous response. Cause I did catch an attitude after you was like you have to explain and I was like wtf but I had to step back and take out my own personal experiences and views.So I deleted my previous thread since my views changed a bit. I didn't want to leave it up any longer. So thank you.
I also do agree with your statement of them being fine later this is something they will learn from and be better with in the future. Hopefully.
You know what else makes this SO dissapointing?? theyve both clearly done extensive research into BDSM. there is no way they dont know about safe words. but of course the author makes it so they dont make one and it ends up assault. WHY!! absolutely killed the vibe and made him like every other webtoon guy who only cares about his own dick. REWRITE THIS BRUH
My exact thoughts. If they had done so much research how could they not know about safe words
Nunca he usado una "palabra de seguridad". Basta con decir "me duele""para""detente""me dió un calambre" o "espera un poco" . Incluso el "hoy no tengo ganas".se supone que somos Seres racionales. Pero lleva un tiempo de adaptación de saber lo que le gusta a tu compañero y que él sepa lo que a ti te gusta, además de tener la suficiente confianza para preguntar si estás dispuesta a experimentar algo más y la complicidad de entender con un gesto o mirada lo que el otro quiere así que de mi punto de vista está bien son dos vírgenes que solo "aprendieron" la teoría.
I don’t think you guys are understanding that they are both indeed not just inexperienced on bdsm but also sex. They know nothing about it yes they have books about it but what’s to say those books talk about safe words? And aside from allllll that this is a first she’s in a moment of shock he’s also in a moment of experiencing such pleasure for the first time it consumed him. Yall just chatting to chat. They are BOTH inexperienced he’s never done it with a person neither has she and he’ll I bet they didn’t know it would hurt like that. They def didn’t know about prepping a virgin because who tf would think a virgin would have their first time with bdsm play. Let’s use our critical thinking here
the point is why WOULDNT all those in depth books talk about safe words..... thats a BASIC in BDSM, its foundation is in trust and boundaries.....
also him being "consumed" is NOT AN EXCUSE!!!!
Did you perhaps read the books with them? Did it state in fact that they are safe words in it? Maybe they discovered this themselves. And also no it’s not an excuse but it’s worth thinking about he was OUT of it. Literally was camatose doesn’t justify it but it happened! First time! LITERALLY FIRST TIME no one is perfect especially when they haven’t done it before. He didn’t expect it to feel so good and she didn’t expect it to hurt because we can’t ignore that at first he said it wouldn’t fit but SHE drew him in further forcefully. They learnt about bdsm maybe not all about it but they knew NOTING ABOUT sex
THIS ISNT REAL. the author CHOSE to not have them learn about safewords when its the FOUNDATION of what theyre doing!!!!! HELLO???????? and again him doing it for the first time is NOT an excuse for ignoring her screaming no. STOP THIS.
Exactly this is fiction! So you need to understand that in fiction anything happens it doesn’t have to please you! Use your own dynamic to REASON. if you can’t hack it EFF THE HECK ON AND WRITE YOURS .
do you not realize that fiction absolutely can affect peoples beliefs????? people who say this isnt assault also think its not assault when it happens in REAL LIFE.
why are you offended by the truth? im still going to read this webtoon.... see a therapist
please do not act like authors cant be criticized for the writing choices they make.
You believing fiction is a you problem lmaoooo so a fiction about flying cars will change your beliefs right get outta here. No one said it wasn’t wrong I literally just said! It happens ! It happens like it’s something that happens and if it kills you MOVE ON
Oh they can but with none bs criticising. All this opinion yet you are sat lmao
yeah and im not paying for it. please bffr
theres also no rule that says you cant criticize media and still consume it?