are we just gonna gloss right past how random people started staring at his peen in public??? LMFAO
ok. so he was rescued by random chimps (supposedly because he looks like one with all his body hair lmfao???), somehow loses his mind and kills a chicken with his bare teeth, then suddenly gets his mind back?? and now theyre gonna continue like it NEVER HAPPENED??? HUH??????
I LOST IT HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA XD
this has got to be one of the weirdest nonsexual things ive ever read in a BL
theres NO WAY he actually got his partner actually mad on purpose to have kinky sex LMFAO. like its only roleplay on one side lol
SETH COME BACK FOR UR MAN NOW!!! also the mother literally proves women can look good in ACTUAL armor, and if she dies im coming for u author
THE MOTHER IS SO
IM TIRED OF RAPE PORN IN BL. all of these authors are going to hell. IM SICK OF IT.
when will BL authors stop using graphic assault as a means of pathetic plot progression. we all know they mostly include it for smut, and its also incredibly overdone. when will it fucking end. theres a reason that whenever they show graphic rape on TV that it generates controversy and severe criticism, yet BL just gets away with it every time.
You are so right!!
u know ive been on this website for like 10 years at this point and its only in the past kinda year or so that people have started speaking up so thank you
THIS SITE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 10 YEARS?! :O
I've noticed the increase in criticism too
I hope it can finally change for the better
yup lol
literally cuz its shameful
they need to put a disclaimer to not actually do shit in public cuz unfortunately a lot of ppl think its okay and not violating to others
its a kink a disclaimer aint gonna change that, like how dont do drugs sign doesnt stop ppl from doing them. plus its not like everyone hwo does it in public does it in a crowded area they do it discreetly
absolutely correct. so many kids are taught not to smoke/do drugs at school yet some of those kids still did i sadly
if you teach them actual good reasons then it can work?? for example, it is violating other people. you are getting off to the lack of consent of others. also this logic is just gross. we should always at least try, so stop.
if taught in a less harsh, more logical way, it works more. for example, calmly teaching kids that if they feel they need to do hard drugs to find a school counselor who wont tell their parents and they can talk through their feelings.
also, discreetly is still not okay???? anyone could walk by and you are violating their consent. they did not consent to seeing that
Teach them good reasons? People can still be taught good reasons not to do smth but they will still end up doing it, yes there are some who dont but there are mostly who do. I dont know how its violating others, violating is a strong word, how does having sex in an area outside violate others? I hope yk that public sex doesnt mean they like to fuck with people around, it just means they like outdoor sex, the reason its called public is because anyone could have the possibility of seeing it. What logic do you think is behind the sentence I wrote? Its a fact, and what should we try to do? force people to stop fucking? yea good luck with that
Nobody consents to anything they see hear or get touched by out in public, you think someone consented to a bird shitting on them, for people to smoke in their face, for them to sit near sick people? No, and discreetly is ok because youre trying to have privacy while still fulfilling what you want to be fulfilled
ummm lol you think thats gonna work? People are still gonna be influenced and still gonna eventually do it, the whole point of the school counselor is to tell the parents what the child told them, that really isnt gonna change plus why would you go to an untrustworthy adult who you dont have certified proof that they wont go and snitch
what do u mean lack of consent of others. like fine i get its a sexual violation if someone just saw sex out in the open but thats not what they are doing. they dont get thrill out of traumatizing people if thats what ur implying.
they are getting the thrill from being in a place where they could get caught and violate others, thus getting off to others lack of consent.
yeah you know what? this logic is nihilist bullshit. there is absolute still a point in trying and educating. because schools typically do not educate kids on why this is wrong and how u can get on the sex offenders list.
if you want to do sexual acts in front of people, or with the possibility of being seen, you need consent from all parties or its violating them.
Fucking in public is not how you become a sex offender, atleast to my knowledge. Never said you couldnt keep trying im just saying that it would likley not work
sooo if i wanted to smoke and just did it anyways am i violating the person near me because i didnt ask if i could
thats an asshole thing to do but its not sex you absolute braindead freak. do you not know that public sex and flashing are crimes for a reason????
you absolutely CAN be added to the sex offender list over public sex because its a SEX CRIME.
Umm im braindead but im using your logic, youre saying that because a person is doing something someone else doesnt want them to do that its violating them. So smoking woulld fall into that category to oh but wait you want something sexual, so how about making out infront of someone? Is that violating oh smart one
Its only a sex crime if you knew people were gonna see you or wanted to, i feel like you think that since the word public is in it you think the people who partake in those activities actually do it infront of others and not do it in an area in public. You can literally have sex in your car but that wouldnt get you to be a sex offender because it wasnt intentional
and this is exactly why they need to teach this in schools. because if your car is parked outside or in a public place, it IS a sex crime. and can get you on the offenders list. oh my god ignorant people need to shut up.
and im gonna say it again: having sex in public places or places that you do not own is illegal. having sex in a park? illegal, u can be put on the registry? sex in a public bathroom? also illegal. movie theater? illegal and they have cameras. this is exactly why i advocate for disclaimers and education. because so many people do not understand the weight of these actions. and also just how immoral they are because its violating to the people who could see, and the environment.
first, smoking in public is often a crime that can get you a serious fine because people deserve to be able to breathe in air, esp if they have asthma. making out is not illegal but it is wrong to do so in public because its violating to the people around, and if ur in a place like a restauant, movie theater, etc you can be forced to leave the premises. you sound like an awful person, its not hard to have decency
Having sex in your car isnt a sex crime lol like what, you must not know what you have to do for it to be considered one, you call me ignorant but you stay being loud and wrong
Omg its like you read and twist it in a way to make it seem like i said something i didnt, did i say it isnt illegal or did i say its only that if the outcome of you being caught is premedatated, like im sure i said that did I not? People who have sex in public whether they wanna be caught or not know what theyre doing, thats literally why they do it and for some people its just spontaneous; its immoral? omg aint no way we're bringing the enviroment into this i actually laughed at that, pls tell me how public fucking is violating the enviroment. Also its very obvious that we both have very different ideals and morals so dont talk about yours like its fact when its just how you feel personally
Some people with asthma smoke too yk, and its only a crime if its in an area that has the no smoking sign. Yikes you sound miserable and a stickler, the type to ruin the fun of others and but in buisness that doesnt involve you. Idk why you acting like i myself do it frankly if i were to have sex in public I'd do it in an area where I wouldnt get caught like an abandoned building or such, I didnt know im a horrible person for trying to understand smth but aight
yes it is. GOOGLE IT. having sex in your car in a public place or where people can see you is a SEX CRIME! oh my god you are a menace
in many cities you can only smoke in designated smoking areas because again people have the right to breathe air. you are genuinley an insufferable person who doesnt care about consent or the law. I hope you fuck around and find out and get put on the sex offenders list.
and btw, you can always get caught. there is always a chance, and therefore it is both immoral and illegal. fuck around and find out, and then youll have to tell every neighbor you ever have that youre a sex offender because you couldnt understand consent
people when porn displays kinks: :O
like seriously i dont think bl manhwa will be the reason someone has outdoor sex, this is like saying video games make children violent and that gay media makes people gay. this is not yhat seriousl go out in the sun and touch grass
fiction does affect reality and as you have likely seen in this thread there are a shit ton of people who do not know how illegal it is to do these things, and likely BL is an influence.... im so fucking sick of having to tell people that fiction does affect peoples beliefs even unconsciously.
no it doesn't
i mean it does but not in the ways you think. not everyone here is an impressionable child hopefully, and if someone takes this ridiculously kinky porn manhwa seriously thats a whole different problem.
my point is just because they have weird sex scenarios none of us really want to actually do all that with our significant other. its not like we read it and be like yeah thats a great thing to do because these drawings did that lol. just because children see people smoking in media and want to try that too that doesn't apply to the adults (at least i hope no minors are here) that are on this website.
people are more impressionable than you think, and also weird to be against a DISCLAIMER. since again there are a lot of people who do not understand how much of a crime it is to have public sex, even in your car. also its funny that you mention smoking because actually yes consistently showing smoking in media influences people to think its not as bad as it is, and the US made a lot of progress by making more media without smoking
putting a disclaimer is only useful if someone is like triggered by public sex but if it makes someone uncomfortable why read this in the first place.
But then putting a disclaimer to tell people not to do that irl is also pointless. people who like having sex in like cars for example wont stop doing that because of a disclaimer, ofc it is a completely different thing if someone has sex in front of other people without their consent but trust me, these types of stories wont be the indicator of those actions.
also about the smoking, it might influence some kids but t dont think the majority of people who start smoking do it because of its display in media, perr pressure and the urge to fit in with certain groups in school or a workplace are far more common indicators of why people might start smoking.
they are all factors. the moral of the story is that media does affect our unconscious beliefs. theres been studies on this. a very recent example is that japanese women are being told to say "yamero" instead of "yamete" because the later is associated with pleasure due to how hentai sexualizes women saying no. so women getting assaulted in public are less likely to recieve help if they say "yamete" because of fictional media and the biases it creates. in this case all im saying is that there should be a disclaimer. that shouldnt be this controversial
again its CLEARLY not pointless because the more its shown like this in media, the more people think its normal to do irl. there are tons of people who think this shit is normal and who dont even know that it can get u on the sex offender registry. i JUST talked to someone who thought it wasnt illegal to have car sex when ur car is in public. it is. all im advocating for here is an educational disclaimer.
well putting a disclaimer wouldn't hurt sure, but they usually dont put disclaimers in stuff like hentai. Japan's sexual abuse problem comes from the societal repression of sex as a whole, sure putting a disclaimer isnt a bad thing but what would help the situation youre describing is advocating against porn and hentai, teach young people about the psychological and social damage it can do. not engaging with it is the best prevention because like i said, these are kinks that people have displayed in these stories, this very bl had shit like bdsm too which also shouldnt he normalised and can lead to crime, but putting the disclaimer dont do this at home wont prevent anyone from it thats why they dont put it there.
no, they dont put a disclaimer cuz they dont see any issue with it. its also the reason why theres so much romanticized rape in BL. the authors see no issue with writing it in. im done.
no no i understand ur point that we need to make people acknowledge that it is wrong, but then what we should do is advocate for these pieces not being made in the first place. putting a disclaimer is ok im not against that or anything. i just wanted to tell u that it is pointless asking for one cause these types of stories do it on purpose, for kink reasons and they don't think it is bad, people who release it are the same. make sure people don't make them in the first place
i think i just disagree cuz i think a disclaimer would bring people down to earth while reading it and also again a lot of people just dont know how illegal it is. but yeah adios
am i the only one whos confused? if i remember right this guy hasnt seen the mc in YEARS after moving to another country, they didnt even keep in contact for years, and hes moving back to europe in a week, yet hes this obsessed??? how does that make any sense
dropped because its literal rape porn. its rape smut for people who get off to the idea of people getting graphically raped. these authors are ILL.
also to everyone who downvoted, get psychiatric help if ur enjoying the images of someone getting raped.
womp womp
I-. Honestly i don‘t think we are reading the same thing.
womp womp
womp womp
It started rough but it get so much better. Character development and constant are big thing between them later. It's really a good story. It's because Jaeshin doesn't care for humans in the beginning but falls in love with the Prince which changes him. The Prince agrees to sleep with him to get rid of the ghosts and Jaeshin needs the Princes energy. Give it a try again.
i dropped in the beginning babes
literal rape apologist
i just cant fucking do it. im so TIRED of this shit in BL its disgusting. legit these authors are awful ppl to make rape porn like this
rape apologist POS
oh u like rape porn?? disgusting human being. ur getting off to someone being assaulted
yep! Read 10 chapters and Im done. First thing ML does is rape the MC when he meets him in the real world.
Mangago users are fucked in the head
How are you not? I just read the first 11 chapters before giving up, and literally in chapter 5/6 the first thing the ML does is rape the MC while he's sleeping. MC wakes up and says, and I quote, "no", "stop", "it hurts" (those 3 multiple times) "take your hands off", "my stomach feels like its going to rip", also hes crying through the entire encounter AND passes out at the end.
Are you dense? How is this consensual lmao. This is THE definition of rape, and then it happens again! This shit is fucked up and you obviously didnt pay much attention to what you read.
just say you like rape babe
I like the accusations and assumptions but its not gonna do anything if its not true lmao
at the minimum youre supporting it by arguing against people who are calling it out. Whether you agree or not doesnt matter, because regardless this manga is full of rape lmao, and its weird to gloss that over and act like its okay
"Mangago users are fucked in the head" That would include you then, we are all not paying for what we read. You can't be acting like you're any different or mighty about it. If i go into your lists theres a good percent i'll find something you're reading about that has rape. Because unfortunately, Almost all bls now have rape of some sort.
Yes, there is rape, no it is not okay. However, there is progress unlike other mangas, well only those whom have read that far will notice the progression.
Asides from that, Ofcourse it doesn't excuse the rape. But it's already happened and if you didn't like it then you shouldn't continue to read or complain so much about it if you only read 10 chapters in and have no clue about the rest of it.
Most of what i said would indicate that im not supporting nor glossing over the rape scenes.
Not saying Im a great person for reading stolen work, but thats really not the same as supporting rape lol, and youre just changing the subject anyhow
Acting mighty about... not supporting sexual assault in relationships?? That should actually be a normal reaction thanks.
Dont worry, I didnt continue to read it. But Im entitled to thinking something is bad when it romanticize literal rape in the first 5 chapters, even if I dont finish it. Weird youre okay with rape though. It shouldnt matter if the character and story develops like, sexual assault still occurred, multiple times.
"it already happened" yeah and manga authors and readers are obsessed with something that is actually so fucking evil. It should be called out and stop being so normalized because what the actual fuck lol
You're acting as if you're any better despite using this site, not the other thing you said, but considering how you seem to like filling in things with your own ideas i'm not surprised you said that.
Never said i was okay with it, i am a victim myself so id like to think i know whether im okay with it lmao. But as usual people on here like to accuse freely despite not knowing shit about the other person. I'm not all that shocked when people wanna compare actual rape to a drawing.
acting like i raped someone and bragged about it lmao, calm tf down. no one is normalizing rape or supporting it. you should learn not to attack people over fictions. if this is not your cup of tea then move on or go to twitter instead of whining like a bitch in here. +i find the story beautiful not because of the rape scenes but because of seeing someone who had no morale or emphaty at the beggining slowly learn about humans and falling in love with one of them. you really should pick different story to cry about it
w0mp WoMp
honestly, real lol people defending it are just kinda weird, i read it because i was curious of tge outcome and the art is heavenly but thise scenes are disturbing asf.
it took like 20 chapers of rape until he gave actual consent lol. separate fiction from reality sure but it is still hella offputting
THANK YOU!!!! ITS SO FUCKED UP, how do they not see it???
"whining like a bitch" oh sorry you mean having an appriprate reaction to RAPE PORN?????? when are we as a community going to say this shit isnt okay??? GET A GRIP. women in japan are being told to not say "yamete" if theyre being sexually assaulted because of how often its used in rape hentai because now its associated with pleasure. THIS IS REAL LIFE. FICTION AFFECTS REAL LIFE.
PREACH
you are excusing it. why did you type this BS out?? and i dont care about the rest of it. the ML is just going to get away with literal rape.
"a drawing" yeah babes fiction DOES impact real life. Japanese women and girls are being told to not say "yamete" if theyre being assaulted because its so heavily associated with rape hentai that theyre less likely to get help from others cuz theyll assume theyre enjoying it. Yamete means NO, yet saying it often means they wont get any fucking help. FICTION AFFECTS REALITY.
its really fucking weird to be saying all that then if you apparently "dont excuse the rape" like clearly you are.
ive already said this, but japanese girls and women are being told to not say "yamete" (aka how women often say no) because how heavily associated it is with hentai. it means theyre less likely to get help if they say yamete because theyre assumed to be enjoying it. ENJOYING IT WHILE SAYING NO. fiction DOES affect reality and we CANNOT keep pretending it doesnt
literally, and its made for people to enjoy as smut. like sorry how can ppl think theyre an okay person if theyre enjoying watching someone get raped?? it doesnt matter if its fiction, that is a representation of a person getting brutally assaulted.
then why would u comment "womp womp"??? do you think youre a good person for defending rape porn? get morals
if you think its okay for people to draw rape porn, you need serious help. they are drawing someone getting raped as smut for people to ENJOY.
Because it was funny and it obviously got on your nerves enough to accuse anyone who said it, that they supported rape lmao. It's one word repeated twice and you wanted to be mad at someone, so you found that as an excuse to go ahead and target people with it.
You can stay upset and keep your opinions, i dont really care nor am i going to be like "omg you are so right
yeah its not fucking funny get help. because im genuinly sick of rape porn being normalized in this community and ur mocking me?? how are u gonna be surprised if i comment back after youve mocked someone clearly really upset over a pervasive issue?? YOU NEED HELP!
If it's upsetting you this much and this easily, then you are the one who needs help.
its actually perfectly normal and GOOD to be disgusted by literal rape porn. it shows i have empathy not just for the characters portrayed (because empathy for ficitonal characters does reflect character) but empathy for all the victims of rape culture. rape porn perpetuates rape culture. FUCK OFF
I like how you're telling this to an actual victim of rape lmao
no no i agree with what you said, it does send the wrong message and this story could have been made without rape. or at least if it is included in the story it should have been acknowledged as something bad, not something that is explained with "well he needs that to stay alive" im pretty sure this guy could have had any prostitute for yin energy so thats pointless.
i meant the fiction reality thing in a way that i dont think most people who read this read it because it is rapey, i saw many in tbe comments who dropped it for that very reason and came back to see how the actual plot goes. they themselves also will not rape or assault anyone after reading this. HOWEVER i think it should absolutely be addressed in the series or at least in a disclaimer that this is morally wrong.
im not trying to defend rape or anyone who romanticises it in any way though anyone who does justify the author's decisions to make this so rapey is a weird person
yall always act like thats some sort of valid comeback, but if you support rape smut, you are supporting the rape culture that leads so many other people to be raped. get it together, the world doesnt revolve around you
ok thank you
Ofcourse, whatever you say. You gonna act like that and proceed to attack someone who's experienced the same shit.
just because youre a victim doesnt mean you understand how damaging rape porn is to society and how it perpetuates the same rape culture that causes so many people to be sexually assaulted and degraded. black people sometimes dont believe in systemic racism, some women dont believe in systemic misogyny. you are NOT inherently correct just because ur a victim and i think you know this, ur just trying to weaponize your status as a victim which is honestly fucking disgusting. im trying to educate you but you seem to be a fucking lost cause and self centered.
if you actively excuse damaging content, you deserve to be criticized.
If i wanted the education i'd have learned it from somebody who isn't whining on an illegal site and complaining over art. I don't really care. I will continue reading what i want, because i can and your lousy opinions can't do shit.
So, its fine if you want to accuse everyone who reads this as some rape enjoyer or supporter. Its not gonna change what i do or anyone else at the end of it. Those reading have obviously stayed, somebody bitching about it won't bother them nor the author for that matter. If you wanted to make an actual difference you could have gone anywhere else than here. Bffr.
wow. absolutely disgusting how you do not see the greater harm in this stuff being created. its not just art, it perpetuates rape culture. ive already said how japanese women and girls are being told to stop saying "yamete" if theyre being sexually assaulted because its so associated with HENTAI that theyre less likely to get help. Schoolgirls all over the world to are commonly Saed in school uniforms because of schoolgirl porn and anime. Fiction isnt inherently separate from reality. we CANNOT keep allowing these authors to make porn from RAPE. if you dont feel horrible watching the depiction of a person being brutally raped, seek help and education instead of being fucking rude. you are a despicable person.
and by the way, criticisms are a form of fucking activism. the first step to change. the more people who criticize and say this isnt okay, the closer we get to this shit not being written anymore. and thats why what youre doing is disgusting. you are hindering PROGRESS
If you want your voice heard do it where its not on an illegal site. If you want authors to hear you, do it where they arent being ripped off. You think they will care about somebody commenting on here? No, they wont. It isnt making a difference. It's going to happen because there are messed up people in the real world regardless.
you dont get to tell me what to do. ive seen a drastic increase in anti-rape porn sentiments on this website which is AMAZING!! theres been a lot of progress here which is GOOD. so stop saying its not making a fucking difference because it is. get some fucking morals and leave me tf alone loser. what an awful nihilistic bullshit sentiment
have fun reading idrc
people dont get to tell you what to do but YOU get to tell what people should do? bffr
nobody’s defending rape culture and shit here, we’re here for the plot and development which you can’t see because you’re so focused being an aCTivIsT in a fucking pirated site for fictional stories lmaoooo
being a hypocrite is such a loser thing to be, get over it
im allowed to tell people that defending rape porn is undoubtedly wrong yes. do you not have a brain?? i never said i dont understand people getting through it to get to the good plot, but DEFENDING the rape porn is not the same thing AT ALL! ur gonna call someone who actually cares about rape culture a loser. god this site is fucked, get a grip and get some morals.
and yes people ARE defending rape porn here and therefore rape culture. doesnt matter that its fictional, it still affects rape culture and our unconscious biases, thats why its crucial to not read it even if ur just getting through it. it affects your brain.
and again fucking WEIRD as shit for criticizing activism aka having basic morals and understanding of how media affects unconscious bias and rape culture. Sad!
like can u leave me alone babes?? cuz if u werent so obsessed with defending this awful rape porn you wouldnt even be commenting at me.
nah babe I will continue to yell about how weird about how weird it is that prevelent, romanticized sexual assault is all over the place manga/manwua, with little discussion about how wrong it is lol
you just want attention atp and congrats, you got it
nothing about attention. Just tired of seeing romanticized toxicity EVERYWHERE on this site and have been holding back talking about it since forever.
But its tiring reading something that supposedly good and praised only for their to be SA every 5 chapters and no one is discussing it?? Thats an issue.
Obviously an issue very few of you have but thats what makes it even weirder
yeah bud, sure
its actually pathetic that you think this way. that you dont believe people can actually be passionate about social issues and injustices. just because youre desensitized doesnt mean its not FUCKED UP
PREACHHHHHHH. its so freaking weird how desensitized and unempathetic most readers on here are. cuz we all know fiction affects reality and peoples biases
esp too cuz i initially posted the original comment while almost having a mental breakdown because im so sickened at how common rape is in BL and how its made to "not be a big deal". like literally trying to not break down, yet i got so much hate and downvotes....
oh wait, forget about that, it was you who was an attention wh lmao good luck in life
again all this opinion is doing is reflecting how fucked up your morals are. there IS change happening by people speaking out, the tides are shifting and less people are okay with this media.
ohmygod i cant with this cringey talk girl you sound like 14 y.o pls aight im muting this post
im a fucking adult woman with a degree whos educated in psychology and sociology. you clearly know fucking nothing about rape culture. shame on you.