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But he says he has more. So that’s probably worth checking out. Remember that time during the party when everyone was there. Someone could have snuck in an took some pictures. Or maybe even another time they were being weird in public, I think something happened in the school, too. I do think he should have told his brother, though.

LMAO... That last sentence killed me
They're really acting like someone tricked them into reading this when the cover photo alone screams toxic bl confinement plot...

This paragraph just reads as someone trying to defend their creepy ahh tastes

Stfu, ya'll always jump to this and it gets tiring. Nobody needs to defend their choices on the Internet to a bunch of people they'll never meet in their lives

Mind you that you're not the only one reading bl. Whatever type of content get published, get featured here, we have the right to watch, to comment and rated it all we want. The problem is you don't even understand why some feel concerned about this type of violent yaoi getting so much attention and popularity. You only want to défend your torture porn liké any other biscuits, though this matter is beyond simply consuming your porn

Sounds like you just can’t find a justifiable reason for liking creepy shit like this.

The only reason this is popular is because its new and the art is great, as soon as its done it'll be forgotten seeing how generic it is. Are you really trying to link this to some broader real world problem?

And no one said people can't comment/complain; we're saying it's crazy to complain about bls not being fluff when they were clearly marketed as being toxic.
Also, there are so many good fluff stories coming out now so it balances out all the toxic stuff that gets dropped too

I don't need a reason, I like reading toxic shit like this... What are you gonna do? Smite me?

Who link this to some real problem ? Where did I say this? Will you pull the fiction card as to justify this gross thing?
This is not why they're complaining, and you know it well too. The fluffy bl they speak about was to illustrate their opinion.
I know for the art, I made remarks about it, and this is exactly why I have problems with these manhwas lately

Lol. You commented elsewhere this manhwa is generic and that you've barely watched it. Now you say you like reading toxic shit like this. Which is it?

Fluff manhwas shouldn’t have to balance out shit like this??? Reading toxic rapey manhwas isn’t normal??? What is your argument even trying to prove??? And also, I bet if the rapist was a old creepy man and art was uglier you wouldn’t be defending it like this.

I meant toxic shit like this as in bls like 'No Reason' and 'Indomitable Champion' not this one as it is too boring.

Idk what you're getting at here cause all I said was ya'll are crazy for always complaining under toxic bls wanting fluff when there are many fluff bls available to read...

Who made you the arbitrator of what is normal? This is why ppl can't stand ya'll, always pushing your puritan bs on others. If you want to read fluff go read fluff. There is a market for toxic bls so they aren't going anywhere, ya'll always complaining is just virtue signalling atp
Also, Indomitable Champion is one of my top toxic/rapey bls and the rapist is an old creepy skeevy man so...

In case you don’t know, hating on manhwa because it has rape doesn’t make someone a Christian. It just means that that person doesn’t like rape. Also, congratulations on making yourself seem like even more of a creep for being okay with massive age gaps. That old man was probably an adult when the mc was an infant, which is disgusting as hell. Reminds me of Trump and his wife. Also, it seems you haven’t noticed yet, but the rapeier the manhwa the lower the rating. So, it could be argued that liking torture rape porn isn’t normal.

1. Never said you were a Christian.
2. Never said you can't hate on bls with rape in it.
3. LMFAO... Age gap... that man was 40.. What are you even saying omg, you are literally sounding insane.
4. Liking torture porn isn't mainstream so ofcourse it would get low ratings. And rightfully so, that shit was awful

You're the one who made ridiculous assumptions then refuse to reply when get pointed at the problem.
Plus 'ya ll'... you still didn't grasp the point of this whole convo and don't even know what I'm thinking. Do you understand human language?
Please reread my preview replies

No Reason... the black hole in this genre of garbages and probably the starting point. You're worse than I thought.
You're choosy, but for me they're the same kind, or maybe that's because there's not the grape in this one that's why you find it boring? But you're still here defending it like your last steak. Be honest, would you?

This shows you don't understand metaphores, figures of style and even when you brought a point, refuse to admit there's something wrong in your statement. (You told you like the old creepy skeevy rapist).
At least you admit this shit is awful and liking it isn't mainstream, normal. Lol, we have some hope there :')
What you don't get is that these works are becoming mainstream, get published on mainstream platforms, and that's why it's problematic for us. I never mentioned I want to read the fluffy bl, but 'ya all'... Can't' you see people as individuels, because if not it'll be like arguing with a wall

Did you not know that Puritanism is another branch of Christianity?

'Ya'll' refers to the people always complaining about wanting fluff under clearly red flag marketed bls. Also, you came into the conversation saying ppl have a right to complain and I agree however all I'm saing is toxic shit will always have a market so if you don't like it, go read fluff. Simple. But you guys don't want that, you just want it gone

I am not defending this bl, I am defending the point that if you guys don't like toxic bls just go read fluff and stop clutching your pearls under every toxic bl that drops as if its the only thing available

You're the one who lacks understanding cause I said I enjoyed the story, not the skeevy rapist, I just did not mind that the rapist was old and creepy (it dod not add nor detract from the plot).
When I said awful, I was referring to the stuff that happened to the mc not the story overall. That story was top tier mind-break shit
Oh, it's problematic for you so you just want it gone instead of just ignoring it and reading what you enjoy like 'normal' people?

Stop saying "ya all", "ya all", you're speaking with someone, not a bunch of people. I've never said I want fluffy bl here, for my part.
I don't think readers want this gone, but if I agree with others on something it is that this kind of MANHWAS grows in number, get mainstream, and this, IS CONCERNING.
If you can't' reply to this last point and keep telling me about the fluffy bl, don't bother to reply since it'll be a worthless convo atp

I don't see why it would be concerning, manwhas like these have always been around (at least on the sites I started reading from; they were always there). Maybe it was different on this site Idk.
That's why I asked if you were linking it back to some real world problem cause what would be the concern?
Is it a morality issue?
Or is it that its getting too mainstream on this site (cause its been mainstream on others)?

I really don't see what the problem would be because for each one of these manwhas that drops another cutesy one drops as well, so it's not like these are the only ones being published

Yes we love seeing men getting beaten up n tortured

Yess I love seeing men t0rtured

I've posted somewhere a comment about this, so maybe go read because I'm tired of rewriting.
It's of course a moral problem because these fictions lack morals and any human decency, the violence is just gratuituous with no end to it. I get you and your friend here like that type of shit, but the vast majority are still normal people in their mind. The problem isn't whether it's dark, rapey or morbid, the issue is the total absence of aspects like redemption, morality and justice. So the issue lies in the treatment of the problematics posed by the plot, and we know this is not the purpose of this kind of 'plot'. Since the purpose is to show torture, porn. This Yian's binding seems mild, but others like No Reason are utter violent and nonsense.
There can be 100 fluffy bl for every 1 No Reason or Bad Life, this is not the point.
The question is whether - in regard of these manhwas getting mainstream, if there won't be a new genre - torture porn, but mainstream, mainly because they have good art.

It's not because people are watching fictions like Hannibal or Dexter that they'll become serial killer, and it doesn't make sense to compare torture porn to these movies/series, since these latters, while violent, involve clear notions like justice and criminels facing punishment. There's NOT retribution in the torture porn. The issue, in the long terme by viewing such works is a desensitization to violence, rape, extreme, snuff contents...
While persons like you spend your time on 'these' sites, MRM and the likes, many aren't used to this, don't ask for it and will perceive this as an agression... till they get used to the torture porn, the beastiality it may contain, the Stockholm Syndrom...
I know you don't care about it but I do care about human psyché, biginning with mine.

It's official, you have brain rot. Go out touch some grasse

Yeah, you're doing too much. Just because these stories are available now across the board means nothing. We all have free will, if you do not like these stories, simply don't read. Them showing up in your recs is not 'aggressive' nor is it being pushed onto unwilling participants, we all have agency over what we consume.

Desensitisation is a problem, but in that regard everybody needs to manage their own psyche. If you know you can't handle this stuff, don't read. You sound like you want a ban on this stuff becoming mainstream and that is just entitled, fictional works not involving or alluding to real people are free to be created however they want. Not everyone shares nor cares about your morals and ethics

Just as the person that started this thread said: If you see a work clearly marketed as red flag and you don't like it, SIMPLY DO NOT READ!

You wanted to know, I explained, then I'm doing too much? I should've known that speaking to you is like talking to a wall.
How can someone who lives in the swamp ever understand those who live on Earth or fly in the sky?

If you don't care about the futur of bl or what quality it will have to offer to the readers, and you're used to read and like trashes, fine by me, each to their own, but I don't think you can grasp the consequences that all this will have on readers and young authors, especially the youngest's mind. You admit that desensitisation caused by this type of works poses a problem, yet ultimately you're someone who don't give a fuck about anyone or anything, of course you won't understand what I'm saying.
And again, this is not about not being able 'to handle' a content, it's about having problems with trash contents like such. Yian's Binding is not even the worse, it's just tasteless.
No need to reply as it will lead to nowhere.

Yeah, Merry Christmas. This is getting nowhere and your holier-than-thou bs is not helping.
I give a fuck about real world problems; torture porn in bls becoming more mainstream is not on the list. You keep harping on about the far-reaching consequences for bls due to works like these and I keep telling you it is not that deep. Shit like this will always have an audience but the majority still likes sfw and those will not be going anywhere, nor will they be overshadowed by toxic bls.
As it relates to young minds, yaoi is 18+ so anyone reading it should be an adult and able to manage their own psyche. If minors end up reading it, then that is for their parents to regulate, not the artists who make works like these.
And another thing I've noticed is you keep calling these works trash but for those of us who don't mind reading them: they're not.