Okay, so apparently I got way different vibes than everyone else in this chapter? I'm just gonna put together what I commented on a few posts and some other thoughts.
Is Fontaine interested in Roxanna sexually? Yes.
Is Dion? No. Roxanna points that out, and I don't think that's supposed to be a "oh silly Roxanna, he totally wants to bang you" moment. She is very aware that he wants him to be in her heart. He wants her to care about him. But that is not physical at all.
Roxanna loved her twin brother. She loved him so much that in this house where you're supposed to hide weakness, she cried because she lost him. That fascinated the HELL out of Dion. Someone loving another person to that point was crazy.
Let us remember: Dion's mother does not love him. At all. She hates him. That love Roxanna had for her brother was something Dion had never received from anyone, so now that he had seen it, he wanted it. He wanted it bad. And since he had seen it from Roxanna and knew she was capable of it, he wanted it from her, specifically.
I'm a little iffy on the years afterwards. He wanted her to break down and cry over him in frustration. By doing this, she would be crying over him. He would have gotten into her heart. Not quite the love he wanted, but still. So now I'm guessing he's gone back to the main want because of the hug, which gave him hope. He wants Roxanna to love him. Because he loves her? No. Because he's obsessed with the little girl who loved her brother so much. Does he want her to love him in a romantic way or a familial way? I don't know. Honestly, he'd probably be fine with either. He just wants a place in her heart so that he can see those big emotions from her again. Maybe even particularly sorrow and heartbreak.
So I really, really don't think this is a simple "oh, incest" situation.
Is Fontaine interested in Roxanna sexually? Yes.
Is Dion? No. Roxanna points that out, and I don't think that's supposed to be a "oh silly Roxanna, he totally wants to bang you" moment. She is very aware that he wants him to be in her heart. He wants her to care about him. But that is not physical at all.
Roxanna loved her twin brother. She loved him so much that in this house where you're supposed to hide weakness, she cried because she lost him. That fascinated the HELL out of Dion. Someone loving another person to that point was crazy.
Let us remember: Dion's mother does not love him. At all. She hates him. That love Roxanna had for her brother was something Dion had never received from anyone, so now that he had seen it, he wanted it. He wanted it bad. And since he had seen it from Roxanna and knew she was capable of it, he wanted it from her, specifically.
I'm a little iffy on the years afterwards. He wanted her to break down and cry over him in frustration. By doing this, she would be crying over him. He would have gotten into her heart. Not quite the love he wanted, but still. So now I'm guessing he's gone back to the main want because of the hug, which gave him hope. He wants Roxanna to love him. Because he loves her? No. Because he's obsessed with the little girl who loved her brother so much. Does he want her to love him in a romantic way or a familial way? I don't know. Honestly, he'd probably be fine with either. He just wants a place in her heart so that he can see those big emotions from her again. Maybe even particularly sorrow and heartbreak.
So I really, really don't think this is a simple "oh, incest" situation.
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Here’s some major spoilers, mostly major character backgrounds. Please don’t open this if you don’t want to be spoiled. My source comes from the spoiler forum and not from me actually reading the novel. For more detailed spoilers, please check out the spoiler forum.
—————————————————————in short: Dane is ML and his backstory is really sad and painful — current fiancé is actually innocent and really sweet — Rona was indeed a witch, and I’m pretty sure she was the one providing love potions for Angela, more on that later———————————————————so the ML of this is the first prince, who is obviously Dane, the boy she met at the pond. He fell in love at first sight with Jayna. Also, his backstory is really sad, you could even say it was more sad than Jayna’s. He literally gets screwed over by EVERYONE in his life, his own father, nanny, and best friend. But the explanation is quite long, so to sum it up, he is sick because he is getting poisoned by his nanny and if I recall, his father, the king, knows about it and doesn’t do anything about it. Later on in the story, he gets cured of this poison or illness by that white rabbit that was shown earlier if you remember. It is actually some holy creature or something.———————————————————-Another surprising thing I feel like people should know if they want spoilers, is that the current fiancé, is actually SO SWEET. In the previous timeline where he “fell in love” with Angela, it was only because Angela somehow fed him a love potion. The truth was, Cassiel LOVED Jayna. He wanted to marry her and liked her since he was young, he practiced a certain sword style because Jayna liked it, even though it was actually inconvenient, and once, Jayna mentioned that she like the colour blue or something, and he showed up at like some event (?don’t remember what event or if he was just visiting) wearing all blue just so she can be happy. In fact, Cassiel, Dane, and even the second prince didn’t care about Angela. The second prince liked thicc women (which Angela is not) but he was also fed the love potion, and Cassiel didn’t care because he was genuinely in love with Jayna. ———————————-However, in this timeline, Jayna doesn’t end up with Cassiel because she can’t get over the trauma of the past life. Even after the engagement is broken in the new timeline, Cassiel still loves her and and swears royalty as her knight and to protect her from the shadows. In one instance, Jayna was being attacked or something, and some mysterious guy saved her (it was Cassiel). He really only gives up or realizes he doesn’t have a chance anymore after Jayna marries Dane. He is sad, but he moves on (there’s no indication he’s with another girl, he just becomes more devoted to being a knight). —————-in the end, Angela dies by execution, and even then, she still a bitch. Also her backstory is mostly where her mom was abused by her dad, to the point of death, and Angela eventually gets abused too. Angela has always seen her mom get beat up in this pink dress, hence her dislike towards pink. Also Angela and her mom was responsible for the death of Jaynas mom. I’m too lazy to get into that thing. Also some other details. ———there’s three queens j think? First one is dead, second one is being ignored by king (also the mother of first prince I think? Don’t remember, and the third queen, who the king is madly in love with. It’s because of the third queen that Dane is getting poisoned (fed to him by his nanny), and because the king loves the third queen so much, he overlooks and neglects Dane being poisoned. Ok it’s fucking 7 am and I need to sleep how. Hope this spoiler is enough.
—————————————————————in short: Dane is ML and his backstory is really sad and painful — current fiancé is actually innocent and really sweet — Rona was indeed a witch, and I’m pretty sure she was the one providing love potions for Angela, more on that later———————————————————so the ML of this is the first prince, who is obviously Dane, the boy she met at the pond. He fell in love at first sight with Jayna. Also, his backstory is really sad, you could even say it was more sad than Jayna’s. He literally gets screwed over by EVERYONE in his life, his own father, nanny, and best friend. But the explanation is quite long, so to sum it up, he is sick because he is getting poisoned by his nanny and if I recall, his father, the king, knows about it and doesn’t do anything about it. Later on in the story, he gets cured of this poison or illness by that white rabbit that was shown earlier if you remember. It is actually some holy creature or something.———————————————————-Another surprising thing I feel like people should know if they want spoilers, is that the current fiancé, is actually SO SWEET. In the previous timeline where he “fell in love” with Angela, it was only because Angela somehow fed him a love potion. The truth was, Cassiel LOVED Jayna. He wanted to marry her and liked her since he was young, he practiced a certain sword style because Jayna liked it, even though it was actually inconvenient, and once, Jayna mentioned that she like the colour blue or something, and he showed up at like some event (?don’t remember what event or if he was just visiting) wearing all blue just so she can be happy. In fact, Cassiel, Dane, and even the second prince didn’t care about Angela. The second prince liked thicc women (which Angela is not) but he was also fed the love potion, and Cassiel didn’t care because he was genuinely in love with Jayna. ———————————-However, in this timeline, Jayna doesn’t end up with Cassiel because she can’t get over the trauma of the past life. Even after the engagement is broken in the new timeline, Cassiel still loves her and and swears royalty as her knight and to protect her from the shadows. In one instance, Jayna was being attacked or something, and some mysterious guy saved her (it was Cassiel). He really only gives up or realizes he doesn’t have a chance anymore after Jayna marries Dane. He is sad, but he moves on (there’s no indication he’s with another girl, he just becomes more devoted to being a knight). —————-in the end, Angela dies by execution, and even then, she still a bitch. Also her backstory is mostly where her mom was abused by her dad, to the point of death, and Angela eventually gets abused too. Angela has always seen her mom get beat up in this pink dress, hence her dislike towards pink. Also Angela and her mom was responsible for the death of Jaynas mom. I’m too lazy to get into that thing. Also some other details. ———there’s three queens j think? First one is dead, second one is being ignored by king (also the mother of first prince I think? Don’t remember, and the third queen, who the king is madly in love with. It’s because of the third queen that Dane is getting poisoned (fed to him by his nanny), and because the king loves the third queen so much, he overlooks and neglects Dane being poisoned. Ok it’s fucking 7 am and I need to sleep how. Hope this spoiler is enough.
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Finally some one said the thing I wanted to ask or say- I feel jealous like I do feel a bit aroused but I don't really moan or have any strong feeling and it fades away quickly Plus I don't like being touched and I don't touch my titiz often How tf ya'll moan like how you do that and how you make it sound good Maybe I'm used to holding back and......
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I’m gonna big spoil. Really big so if you want just some little spoil or something, don’t read it.
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Okay, here we go. The manhwa could have a different ending than the novel, but I’ll be talking about the novel here. And I didn’t read the novel btw. I’ve just read a biiig summary in japanese, that I’m summarizing into this spoil.
This is tagged as « Romance », just as the novel. But y’all have to know it’s actually not a romance one. It’s wayyy more than that, for the first time in that kind of isekai there’s NO ML. We’re just gonna see the character growing up, and I’m actually so happy because of that ヾ(☆▽☆) We all like romance but dang, it’s about HER, SHE’S growing up, without the need of a boyfriend and that’s just amazing. Anyways let’s really start with the spoil now
So, as we saw, the MC will die. A magician will make Keira return to the past, ‘cause she’s « the real one ».
> The real villain of the story isn’t Cosette. It’s the dad, what an @sshole (But he’s hella hot. Still hate him af tho, but ugh why does he kinda look like Claude, and why does Cosette kinda looks like Athy, it makes me even more angry and confused. Don’t make them look like thiiis)
>>> When Keira died ; The dad will help the magician, because of his guilt (? or maybe just because he realized SHE was the real one loved by spirits. A trashy reason for a trash, it makes sense to me.)
>> There’s a thing about the dad being hypnotized, I didn’t really understood that part. But it’s not really important, cause he DID a lot of things, and killed Keira even though he knew she was his daughter (he knew it and wasn’t hypnotized. He still voted to kill her, I’m not sure why but he probably didn’t care since Cosette had the power, and so they thought she was loved by the spirits, « she have power so I don’t need you, just die » grrr)
When the MC returns to the past, the dad start to have some nightmares (of the futur, when he kill his own daughter and all. When he wakes up, he don’t really remember the nightmare and only remember the pain (be in pain yeah, you killed her you trash. And that’s not the only thing he did btw.)
-> Actually, the truth is that he never did directly something, like Cosette. (Well, he voted to kill his daughter, but he didn’t plot or anything) But the thing is that his action, his being, made sooo many people suffer. He destroyed everyone close to him. HE caused everything.
His first wife, for exemple. He watched her being insulted, abused, and never stood to her or said anything, which made the abuse even worst.
> The abuse was done by the family of the second wife, the mother of Keira.
He never said anything, ignored it all. And even when the family of the second wife hired assassins to kill the first one, he didn’t do anything, didn’t say anything, while he knew everything.
The first wife was slandered of being infertile (while she wasn’t). She was pregnant, of Cosette (Which means that yeah, Cosette is a real daughter too. That’s why she looks so much like the dad). And in her situation, to save her baby, she made a contract with a Demon, offering her soul to protect her baby and take revenge of the Parvis family (the one Keira came from), but what she didn’t knew is that she was pregnant of twins (a girl, Cosette, and a boy) >> I’m not sure about this part. The summary does talk about twins (« I didn’t know they were twins ») ; it’s either about the babies, so Cosette and a boy, or about the mother and her brother (cause she do have a brother, we’ll talk about it after)
The Demon took possession of the body of the first wife, and by doing so, killed the baby (Cosette). So actually, Cosette never lived, she was dead from the start ; which complete the prophecy, saying that only ONE daughter is the saintess.
Now, about Cosette (well, it’s not really her. It’s the Demon, in her body, while she’s dead (while she actually was never born alive), controlling the divine spirit ; that’s a little bit confusing. It’s not really clear if Cosette stole the spirit when Keira successfully invoked it and could control it because of her royal blood, or if it’s just the magic of the demon, and actually Cosette never had the water spirit ; Keira had it, but was so shocked that she saw Cosette using her magic (that look just like the spirit), that she never thought she successfully invoked it. She thought Cosette had it and so never awoken her power. It’s one of them either way, but I think it’s the second one, not sure tho this part is so confusing.
Now, the brother of the first wife ; he’s the only one of their family that survived. He wants to take revenge of the Parvis family, just like his sister. He’s the one who introduced Cosette, and he also made a contract with a Demon. In the first futur, their revenge was successful when Keira died, and life turned into Hell (must be why the magician and father returned to the past where Keira was alive)
In this timeline, the father’s way too different. Not as cold, wants to be treated as a father (a b/tch I’m saying, grrr)
The ending ; okay, now let’s talk about how different it’ll of what you expect
I know you expect her to be with a boy, and her father loving her. It’s not. Not at all.
As I said, there’s no ML ; no Romance as we know it. But she’s loving herself. Taking care of herself. Romance with herself lmao
>> She and her brother COMPLETELY cut ties with their father. They’re gonna explore the world, which they could never did (they were kinda locked up in the house since their childhood, because of their father.) It’s not like WMMAP or any manhwa where they end up liking their toxic father and all.
I seriously find it beautiful. Way more « realistic », isn’t it ? I kinda always hoped for an isekai/return to the past where the girl doesn’t live for love u know ? Where she lives for herself. And there it is. (there is some not about romance, but the MC is always a boy. Now we have some THIS same style, but with an heroine that really do it for herself you know ? She find herself, her own happiness which doesn’t imply a boy or a love life ; just her, and her brother, after cutting tie with the toxicity in her life)
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Okay, here we go. The manhwa could have a different ending than the novel, but I’ll be talking about the novel here. And I didn’t read the novel btw. I’ve just read a biiig summary in japanese, that I’m summarizing into this spoil.
This is tagged as « Romance », just as the novel. But y’all have to know it’s actually not a romance one. It’s wayyy more than that, for the first time in that kind of isekai there’s NO ML. We’re just gonna see the character growing up, and I’m actually so happy because of that ヾ(☆▽☆) We all like romance but dang, it’s about HER, SHE’S growing up, without the need of a boyfriend and that’s just amazing. Anyways let’s really start with the spoil now
So, as we saw, the MC will die. A magician will make Keira return to the past, ‘cause she’s « the real one ».
> The real villain of the story isn’t Cosette. It’s the dad, what an @sshole (But he’s hella hot. Still hate him af tho, but ugh why does he kinda look like Claude, and why does Cosette kinda looks like Athy, it makes me even more angry and confused. Don’t make them look like thiiis)
>>> When Keira died ; The dad will help the magician, because of his guilt (? or maybe just because he realized SHE was the real one loved by spirits. A trashy reason for a trash, it makes sense to me.)
>> There’s a thing about the dad being hypnotized, I didn’t really understood that part. But it’s not really important, cause he DID a lot of things, and killed Keira even though he knew she was his daughter (he knew it and wasn’t hypnotized. He still voted to kill her, I’m not sure why but he probably didn’t care since Cosette had the power, and so they thought she was loved by the spirits, « she have power so I don’t need you, just die » grrr)
When the MC returns to the past, the dad start to have some nightmares (of the futur, when he kill his own daughter and all. When he wakes up, he don’t really remember the nightmare and only remember the pain (be in pain yeah, you killed her you trash. And that’s not the only thing he did btw.)
-> Actually, the truth is that he never did directly something, like Cosette. (Well, he voted to kill his daughter, but he didn’t plot or anything) But the thing is that his action, his being, made sooo many people suffer. He destroyed everyone close to him. HE caused everything.
His first wife, for exemple. He watched her being insulted, abused, and never stood to her or said anything, which made the abuse even worst.
> The abuse was done by the family of the second wife, the mother of Keira.
He never said anything, ignored it all. And even when the family of the second wife hired assassins to kill the first one, he didn’t do anything, didn’t say anything, while he knew everything.
The first wife was slandered of being infertile (while she wasn’t). She was pregnant, of Cosette (Which means that yeah, Cosette is a real daughter too. That’s why she looks so much like the dad). And in her situation, to save her baby, she made a contract with a Demon, offering her soul to protect her baby and take revenge of the Parvis family (the one Keira came from), but what she didn’t knew is that she was pregnant of twins (a girl, Cosette, and a boy) >> I’m not sure about this part. The summary does talk about twins (« I didn’t know they were twins ») ; it’s either about the babies, so Cosette and a boy, or about the mother and her brother (cause she do have a brother, we’ll talk about it after)
The Demon took possession of the body of the first wife, and by doing so, killed the baby (Cosette). So actually, Cosette never lived, she was dead from the start ; which complete the prophecy, saying that only ONE daughter is the saintess.
Now, about Cosette (well, it’s not really her. It’s the Demon, in her body, while she’s dead (while she actually was never born alive), controlling the divine spirit ; that’s a little bit confusing. It’s not really clear if Cosette stole the spirit when Keira successfully invoked it and could control it because of her royal blood, or if it’s just the magic of the demon, and actually Cosette never had the water spirit ; Keira had it, but was so shocked that she saw Cosette using her magic (that look just like the spirit), that she never thought she successfully invoked it. She thought Cosette had it and so never awoken her power. It’s one of them either way, but I think it’s the second one, not sure tho this part is so confusing.
Now, the brother of the first wife ; he’s the only one of their family that survived. He wants to take revenge of the Parvis family, just like his sister. He’s the one who introduced Cosette, and he also made a contract with a Demon. In the first futur, their revenge was successful when Keira died, and life turned into Hell (must be why the magician and father returned to the past where Keira was alive)
In this timeline, the father’s way too different. Not as cold, wants to be treated as a father (a b/tch I’m saying, grrr)
The ending ; okay, now let’s talk about how different it’ll of what you expect
I know you expect her to be with a boy, and her father loving her. It’s not. Not at all.
As I said, there’s no ML ; no Romance as we know it. But she’s loving herself. Taking care of herself. Romance with herself lmao
>> She and her brother COMPLETELY cut ties with their father. They’re gonna explore the world, which they could never did (they were kinda locked up in the house since their childhood, because of their father.) It’s not like WMMAP or any manhwa where they end up liking their toxic father and all.
I seriously find it beautiful. Way more « realistic », isn’t it ? I kinda always hoped for an isekai/return to the past where the girl doesn’t live for love u know ? Where she lives for herself. And there it is. (there is some not about romance, but the MC is always a boy. Now we have some THIS same style, but with an heroine that really do it for herself you know ? She find herself, her own happiness which doesn’t imply a boy or a love life ; just her, and her brother, after cutting tie with the toxicity in her life)
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