Be positive. Be positive. This might mean something else. Innocent until proven guilty, am I right? Be positive. ಥ‿ಥ
Let's be colorblind for a while
until it's proven. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
When Camus Morg was first introduced, her character was the perfect depiction of an overused female lead trope where she falls in love with the MC after he defeated her. And constantly hound him hereafter.
As a chronic webnovel/webcomic reader, I instantly felt displeasure to this. Her character revolves around one person, Vikir.
She's a flat character when she was first introduced, and her character or backstory, as well as her attitude, didn't compel any emotion from me. In conclusion, for me, she was unnecessary to the story.
Just think about it.
Before she became a demon, if you just replace her character with a mannequin doll, it wouldn't have made any difference in the story. You wouldn't even notice that it was a mannequin doll. That's what I mean by unnecessary.
Still, I gave her a chance. She was young after all.
But even after the flashback on why she became that way, it didn't transmit to me well. The narration was framing as if she was this pitiful girl who did everything and fell so far down that she became a demon. For the MC. But in truth, it just came off as her being selfish and self-centered.
The adults around her were indeed incompetent. They should've seen what she was doing and what Vikir's loss did to her mentality. I also understand that she was feeling survival's guilt. She was depressed and all that.
But it didn't take away the fact that she ignored and shut out everyone she loves and loves her. Even their warnings of the danger of what she's doing were ignored. And when the ritual failed, her teacher was even forced to sacrifice himself so she could live. Instead of that being her wake-up call, it became her undoing. Seriously, she even contracted with a demon.
The sheer stupidity astounds me. She knows what demons are so she should've known what they were capable of. And yet she kept giving the demon inside her free reign for longer and longer.
And when she finally found Vikir, what did she do? She just gave her body to the demon and then said her goodbyes as if she would die now. Wtf? For what did you do all that if you were content on just dying anyway? If you were fine with that, you should've just stopped when the ritual failed and died in that basement.
Well too bad, because all she did was give her body and power to a demon that Vikir now has to fight. Even Vikir was shocked that she did all that shit for him. Imagine facing death everyday and barely keeping your life, just for a girl to hand a gun to your enemy, saying 'I was doing it to see you'. ʕಠ_ಠʔ.....
This man spent his 2 lives trying to hunt these demons and she just gave them a power up. Now, Vikir was even hesitant to kill her because he felt guilty for what happened. Yep. Just that, he was guilty because of what she should've been (a hero), and what she ended up as (a demon), for him.
In truth, Vikir didn't do anything wrong. It's not like he was faking his death for shits and giggles. He was going against Hugo whom he thought was a villain and enemy. Who knew Camus would go batshit crazy.
What displeases me to no end however, is the fact that this story is blatantly showing her favoritism. Why does she get a second chance? Why does she get a miracle after she contracted with a demon? After everything she did and everyone harmed in the process? Vikir's brother, who was the most deserving of a second chance didn't get any. And he was closer to Vikir's heart more than Camus ever had been.
But no, she gets the plot armor instead.
So I'm sorry for not being sympathetic of her, and for wishing she would just die quickly.
well said
I literally just said the same thing. His brother whom he loved and adored in his last life was killed with no remorse or emotional turmoil. Why does she get the experience his brother should have gotten? Especially considering how close he was to his brother in the last life.
A lot of authors have an issue with really driving home how debilitating the betrayal of a close friend or family is on the psyche. This experience is no different than going through the stages of grief. Some people will live the rest of or the bulk of their life in denial. Some people will fall into depression, some will be lost in their rage. Few will make it to acceptance and allow themselves to move on.
Unfortunately, this series faced the same issue. There is no way Vikir should have been able to kill his brother as easily as he did. He just found out his brother not only betrayed the family, but he also was the cause of his death on his last life. We have to remember, this was the only brother he was close to in his previous life. The hesitation he is feeling while fighting Camus should have been the hesitation he felt while fight his brother. It not only would have been more believable, it would have made sense and been seen more favorably by the audience.
While the fight with his brother would have still ended the same, it would have also steeled his resolve and had him tighten up. There would be no hesitation, no remorse and no empathy for any demonic persons or creatures going forward. The best he’d be able to do is sympathize with the humans who are usually taken advantage of at their lowest point but death would be his gift to those unfortunate souls.
The Camus arc is messing up the image the author built of Vikir. Him trying to save Camus in the first place goes against his principles as a character. He killed his brother no problem so killing Camus should require even less of a thought.
Exactly. Vikir's desperation to save Camus was out of the blue.
Yes, he felt guilty, yes, he felt responsible, yes she was innocent, but she was a DEMON.
His reaction to his brother becoming a demon and his brother's betrayal set up Vikir's character from the get go. It showed that he was level headed, cold-blooded when needed, ruthless when called for.
He wouldn't let emotion cloud his judgement. He's a man of conviction and sheer will to get rid of demons. Without caring about anything else, not even when his own brother, who was the only one to care for him before, pleaded with him to not kill him.
This was further established when he hunter demons all around without any remorse, and when he took every criticism and blame for being the bloodhound, whom they thought was a terrorist. And most of all when the little girl from the orphanage died, when he couldn't save her.
And yet his reaction to Camus Morg shattered all his built up character. In easier terms, he was OOC.
Vikir doesn't wager against odds with demons. He doesn't cling to "miracles" to overcome demons. And he certainly doesn't let his feelings get the better of him in front of demons.
I don't know about others but that's the reason I am ticked with Camus
I couldn’t have said it better. However, my qualms with Camus are related to her character. She’s the worst written female in this series.
Did not she suffer loss in her original timeline? She did. So what made this timeline so different that she strayed from her original path? Her sister dies in this timeline and she didn’t try to bring her back to life but the boy with whom her interactions can be counted on 1 maybe 2 hands has more value.
Her whole character is made around Vikir and her relationship with Vikir. She is not her own person. I know some people like to give her grace by pointing out how her relationship with Vikir gave her an opportunity to cultivate a friendship. However, Vikir was never attentive enough to justify her obsession. He wasn’t especially nice, didn’t display any favoritism and honestly, he didn’t really pay her any attention at all.
Of the 3 female leads, she brings the least value to Vikir as a character. The barbarian girl taught him survival in the woods, archery and her tribe helped save his life. Not once but twice. They also helped him defeat the evil sorcerer in their tribe and Madam Eight Legs and nursed him back to health.
The saintess Dolores, helped him defeat 1 of the 12 demons. Through her he experienced a power he has never before had. Which in turn gives him a goal to strive for.
Man you guys explained exactly what i was feeling its so fucking weird because the other two characters (although somewhat cliche) have some kind of reason to be attracted to vikir and have established a proper connection to him as a character, their encounters together mark significant moments/changes in vikir’s character and his story. Literally the only thing i remember between the two (im so fr rn) is camus’s clothes getting ripped off by vikir like tf…. The author has made no effort to try to actually create an actual logical and reasonable connection between these two. Like they literally just shoehorned in all of her “tragic” backstory in right before the fight too to make us feel sympathy for her… which makes it even less convincing because like… it’s like some mafia guy who’s about to kill another guy and right before he shoots him, he goes on a rant and blurts out his tragic backstory and lore and he says something like “im sorry…. I dont wanna have to do this but i have no choice” …. Like what
-(continuing)
Xinlu got the gong makeover lol
Gong…
Are you a danmei reader
obviously they r lol
Well it's fitting considering Xinlu is Chinese and that's a Chinese name
I mean yeah
Is that some sass
Σ( ￣□￣||) i guess it sounds like thet sry
Im laughing because your username, and they asked if you were being sassy. This is so ironic
Ok weird chick
sometimes im kind on here
I was about to rage when Belle died. Good thing there's a time loop. Damn everybody just straight up died ⊙.☉
As someone who just finished binge reading this manhwa in a day, what panel offended asura scans so much they drop translating?
Isn't the art bordered porn since the beginning? Women's designs are literally fan service. They hid men's junk imprint in uniforms, but showed nipple and vag imprint of women. And demon kings and their possessed humans are literally making out. I don't understand.
Is it when the demon did a kabedon on Aang? Or when he caressed (?) his body? Or when the black king made out with Liu? When?
I agree with you sm, I can legit see the detailed outline of all the womens' nipples every second, and this has been ongoing SINCE the start of this manwha :/
I just find that kind of funny because one of the teammates is practically a fujo, like she was introduced by snapping pics of that "Blossoming Bromance"
When they're fighting, why do they look.....ehem. ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
that’s for the plot
The story is very good at manipulating my emotions