I like their relationship. I really do— but mannnnn this amount of financial codependency (or just codependency in general) is concerning. I don't like how I-tae acts, I'll say it straight up– for a grown ass man of thirty years old, he acts like a child, clueless and gullible and incapable. As for Geum, his major flaw is just how much he likes I-tae. What's his personality outisde of that? Actually, how they are like when they're not with eachother? I want to know more about them as people, not a pair. Lol, idk why I'm saying this so seriously,,,,
Anyway, maybe I just don't like really like bossxworker romance's because oohhh power dynamics and workplace indecency ooohhh but this is fiction. So, in the end, I just don't like how it's executed. But I guess their dynamic is still fun...
Yeah, I need to shut up.
like, it is not that serious lil bro. calm down
dw u should totally express ur opinions! (＾∇＾)ﾉ and I really see ur point, I also find the codependency a bit uncomfortable cause it looks like they revolve around eachother a bit too much that they don't have their own life or personality anymore well not to that point but yk...still it's a fun story just have to turn off ur brain lmao
that's totally what im talking about lol. i know these type of stories is the sort u just don't really think about and just read... unfortunately, im an overthinker at heart. thanks, though, u get me bro, fr fr.
I agree particularly on the I-tae point, like I thought he was supposed to be smart how did he get that stupid as he grew up
why the fuck do they look like scaramouche & tartaglia from genshin impact. i hate that this was my first thought when i saw them. fuckass manhwas.
NOOOO now i can't unsee it
fuckinggg hell they work so well together, whew. that banter got me sweating, fr. someone's finally translating this, about time– the raws are way ahead lol. thanks for uncensoring #needthat.
is there a website to read raws on ? (⌒▽⌒)
now this is comedy bls should be... so fucking dumb that it makes you lose your mind. another stupid couple, win!!!
can't fucking have a single goddamn story with nonconsensual bullshit (aka RAPE) with the victim repeatedly staying STOP. it's not that serious, but im going to pop a fucking blood vessel reading these bl mannhwas and their twisted obsession with using rape as a plot device for shallow drama.
there are plenty of other situations that could be used, that have an even greater potential for drama, but i guess they just have a target audience with this crap– and their own indulgence to fulfill.
again, not my story, so technically i don't have the right to criticise, so take my words with a grain of fucking salt. i need to read shounen ai after this...
let me go batshit for a moment here:
IM SICK OF IT. IM SICK OF THIS RAPE FETISH TREND THAT'S RISEN IN MANHWAS RECENTLY. WHERE'S ALL THE GOOD SHIT AT????
honestly it 100% is that serious
thank you for validating my anger. because im honestly so sick of this bs. i gotta take a deep breath everytime it happens and click out the story.
Yeah I’m just not into it anymore, super disappointed cuz I liked how it started and I liked the character designs
while I agree with the sentiment I would like to point out that this is NOT new, coercion/rape has basically been the industry standard since the first gay comics hit the shelves. if you go and sort by date, honestly, the early 2000's stuff is just as bad if not worse. unfortunately I have no wise and loving advice to bestow other than look harder
I’d genuinely argue at this point sexual assault defines the genre as it’s seen that male sexuality is seen as violence to this genre’s female authors and audience. I believe it’s a cultural phenomenon that does not translate to western audiences who have a better relationship with lgbt given their exposure in comparison to east Asia’s conservative values and heteronormativity. Female readers are allowed to indulge in their sexuality without the reality of the violence they themselves experience in this region by projecting this trauma onto male bodies who can then experience the spectrum of sexual expression on their behalf.
i get it, i think i do– how these such scenes might be interpreted differently depending on the audience’s relationship with sexuality and trauma. that said, my frustration stems from how often this trope is used without much nuance or consideration, to the point where it feels lazy or exploitative rather than meaningful.
although, i’m definitely not the target audience, it doesn't feel empowering, comforting, or hell, even slightly sexy. it just feels weird, off putting, and revolting. but that just might be me. not to say that your opinion is wrong or invalid, in fact– i've never even thought of it that way, so thanks for sharing.
just my two cents.
i've definitely seen worse, 2000's gay media was WAY MORE shameless with the topic. it was blatant back then, unapologetically done and seen as just another thing that happened! ugh. it's gone to the point it has become disgustingly normalized in these stories. this why i always gotta tread carefully with 18+ stories.. i swear bruh
this is why i always check the comments lol
but good shit has always been hard to find (in my experience), and with the influx of manhwas in general in recent years, a lot of shitty lazy bullshit has been created.
The comment section is sadly not a good indicator simply because of the desensitization of violence in the genre. You’re more likely to have people praising a plot examples being “BJ Alex”, “Painter of the Night”, “Love is an Illusion”, “Yours to claim***” which currently claim the top 5 spots on this website of best BL by popularity they all romanticize rape, all of them. But go to the comment section and the dominating reviews are positive as well as their review scores averaging above 9.5. I sadly now do actually have to read the first couple of chapters of a new BL( yaoi, manhwa,manhua) to gauge the safeness of a plot. Many of them will not include trigger warnings or the appropriate tags as warning for its readers. As I said I truly believe male sexual violence is a characteristic of this genre and has been a part of its identity since its origins in the first documented “yaoi”, Kaze To Ki No Uta.
I believe in the absence of female bodies, the genre has decided the only true show of “passionate” male sexual expression is violence.
***Yours to Claim sits at a 8.9 review.
obviously the comments arent always an indicator, but i find that in a lot of cases you will see at least some ppl complaining in the comments if a story sucks, so that saves me a lot of time. (wether those complaints are mostly performative or not is another subject tho).
shoujo had a lot of "dark romance" so it shouldn't come as such a surprise as to what emerged from that influence.
and it doesnt help that bara isnt any better.
as i said, good shit has always been hard to find, even when stories arent "problematic"
It’s also why I get annoyed when people say hey look at all the other options you have to read if you don’t like this portrayal of “romance” and then I look to what they “speak of” and it’s a needle in a haystack of finding something that isn’t problematic because that’s not “interesting” audiences and that’s not what sells. So you in fact that the problematic stories dominating the entire genre as authors take cues from their profit obviously.
off topic, but how are you 'reading' like 700 bls lol?
Haha I certainly am not. I just save them to remember to read them or I’ll have started a chapter or two and truthfully gotten bored and stopped reading but forgot to uncheck “am reading” to “already read”. I used to be more diligent but after years of reading I just got lazy about keeping my list in order. Sometimes it’s just so I can pick something at random to read that I know I have familiarity already just to have something to read depending on my mood. Hence I can tolerate some other garbage reads if that’s specifically the mood I’m in tolerating them, if that makes sense. Also why my reading list can be some heavy shit to just straight up porn lol.
I have found my people
it's bullying, but it feels like more like roughhousing with a friend. they're so cute i want to vomit. vol.1 extras made me want to die. i need them dead.
thank you so, so, so much translator. yugi-san? yugi-sama? i will forever be indebted to you, please imagine me bowing dogeza style. also the kohane stickers, lol, so cute.
my depression is cured, my skin is clear, my crops are watered, cheon ise has COOKED i fear!!!! climax to the top!!!!
translator ur seriously dropped from the heavens!! my day is automatically whenever a new chapter drops (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
this ex bf PMO. bro what ARE YOU ON ABOUT. this fucker is seriously ragebaiting or something, and I'm falling for it because i want to beat him up, RIGHT NOW. his frizzy fuckass makes me boil with rage everytime i catch even the slightest glimpse of his face. boy why u out here acting all sad and shit, acting like u damn the victim, acting like u weren't a cowardly LITTLE BITCH. save his bf from him, bro, this guy is NOT WORTH ur time.
bro a fictional character has not pissed me off to this extent for a while. this is serious. i have beef with this guy. i need to him suffer.
(ok not that serious . but in the realm of fiction it is. I NEED HIM GONE.)