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You not gonna be happy with Kang the next two chapters (angry sex/rape) . I can see the future comments cursing and telling them to break up, but too bad Yiyoung has a different mindset.

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Wait WHAT

Yup, but Kang apologizes. I have full context spoilers here: https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/16771058/

Yeah a scrolled down and got the tea I'm stopping here. I don't want my image of the main story to be ruined

Haha that’s fine. I wish I could stop but ocd

Why cant the author just make cutesy understanding couple for once? Fml

BL manhwas tend to have a thing for rapey stuff

I trusted the author and DID NOT disappoint. People just need to read. Ahn LITERALLY said during the office tour, or on the first day of job in the new office, he was already imagining office sex. Kang scolded him if I recall right, I didn't backread.

Yeah but Yiyoung also said “I don’t like this”, etc.

Playing coy naturally. Because literally when he woke up back at his home, he was squealing with joy.

Me when i am delusional:

I mean people can change mindset or just cope.

Oh ofcOURSE this happens. Why did i expect anything different. Istg these manhwa authors will never get tired of this "sex as punishment" thing even with such a cute and fluffy story.

And where did the mature guy who were willing to let him leave him go?

There’s no maturity between those two. Kang spoke like that due to his insecurities and he was drunk, but he was telling the truth regardless. And I’m glad he said it while drunk because if he wasn’t, he wouldn’t have and his insecurities wouldn’t be discussed properly.

If this was irl, let's dictate how Ahn should feel.

Ahn is not a pushover. He would genuinely reject Kang if he didn't want to.

He is somewhat a pushover, he even let Doyeon cross his nearly non existent boundaries. In raws too, being pushed to drink wine from someone he barely knows. He’s too careless and has a strange mindset in which he is…very kind and happy and forgets about the bad stuff that just happened to him. It’s brushed aside.

Doyeon is new. And it's obvious he is learning what he should and shouldn't do. He was offered a drink, he obliged but when Doyeon approached about to do some skinship, he dodged. He wants to be friends with Doyeon that's why he is obliging him but knows he need to manage Doyeon's advances.

The author's style is straightforward, consistent with the og series. They do not make you think too hard about the character's personalities. If Ahn was brushing it off, he would contemplate and rationalize, then brush it off. But that didn't happen. He woke up and squealed.

No, for the drink, Yiyoung declined but he is still being careless by going alone and believing Doyeon so easily, but I get that he didn’t want to out Doyeon as gay; he thought Kang didn’t know and that’s why he declined Kahn’s suggestion to come along.

I don’t know about becoming friends but I think he’s just being nice about it since Doyeon is Kang’s friend.

So then would you say it’s just angry sex and not rape despite Yiyoung saying “I don’t want this” in raws?

I just can smell the future comment section filled with hate towards Kang, and I don’t wanna see that. So I’d like to hear your perspective, rather see I mean.

Oops forgot to add on, Yiyoung declined the drink but Dohyeon insisted and he obliged finally. He drank it too easily and didn’t think if it could be drugged or not, this is why I say he’s careless. He doesn’t know Doyeon telling enough to be this comfortable to drink wine from him.

You’d think an adult would know what is right or wrong. Kids should already be knowing taking drinks from people you barely know isn’t a good choice, that’s why I say Yiyoung is somewhat a pushover. He brushes things off when Doyeon says uncomfortable shit and hitting on him, and the drink, believing that he was drugged etc.

Not saying he’s an idiot but kinda a pushover. He’s taken advantage of easily and Doyeon realized that, that’s why he lied about being drugged and taking advantage of Yi’s character.

We can all agree the real problem is Doyeon and Kang’s insecurities, right? And maybe some of Yi’s lack of boundaries. Mostly Doyeon is the issue besides Kang’s pessimistic insecure ass.

Idk which one to reply to T.T

I agree Ahn is careless and unsuspecting, but not a pushover. Doyeon, I agree with you, prolly thinks he is and thus pushing him. Ahn is not on guard because he doesn't think Doyeon is much of a threat yet and thinks he can handle him. Plus the fact that he is keeping it from him that he is in relationship with Kang - I think he mentioned he's gay though in the cafe when they first met. Don't want to backread lol.

Personally, my style or analyzing characters is comparing the overall style of the author. The author basically is baiting the readers that they changed Kang and put unnecessary rape. So yeah, people WILL hate Kang in the next 2 chapters. I can tell the author was baiting because they were consistent throughout the og series. Only to find out Ahn was baiting Kang too. Got him even more riled up and found that cute, the next day. If Ahn was uncomfortable, he would still be when he wakes up and mull over it. That was how he was with their issues in the og series.

Doyeon is a narrative tool to basically debunk Kang's confident declaration that he will not become the desperate one in the relationship. Insecurity is the least of Kang's problems, it's realizing that he doesn't actually know himself and is surprised that relationship with Ahn made him somewhat young again. Getting jealous and all. All this time he though he was over and beyond mature enough to act and feel that way. It's supposed to be for comedic purposes really.

And Ahn's case is imo, not really about boundaries but just discussing it with Kang if they can reveal to Doyeon that they are in a relationship.

lolol gurl don’t worry about it, I replied a lot so that’s also on me.

I just think he is kind of a pushover, as in he is sort of easy to fool. And he got fooled by Doyeon. Maybe I meant more of lack of carefulness than pushover, but a bit of both I’m thinking. This is just how I viewed it.

Yes, I made a long ass spoilers from raws, it clears up why Yiyoung didn’t want Kang to come along when picking up drunk Doyeon. I just feel like Yi is easy to fool or manipulate (maybe or maybe not, it’s been a while since I read On or Off).

I see what you’re saying about the author’s consistency and baiting. That makes sense, thank you for taking the time to clarify and explain to me. I also found Yi’s reaction after the rape scene, weird but amusing. I guess it doesn’t come off as serious to him, but I was also amused that Kang apologized meanwhile Yi was finding his reactions hot.

This is probably why I can’t hate Kang as much, I won’t justify what he did, but he’s not the same as Jinx ML and other toxic trash MLs if that makes sense.

We have a bit of our differences in opinion, and that’s totally okay. I will respect yours, I can see why you think Yiyoung’s problem isn’t really boundaries but the whole relationship being hidden. I also thought that if they revealed they are dating each other, perhaps it’ll be better.

I still can’t seem to like Doyeon. He pissed me off in raws. Dohyeon is a catalyst to making Kang’s insecurities come out more, and their miscommunication on top of it. So I hope the author is going in the direction where Kang’s insecurities are spoken of.

I also doubted Kang’s words about easily letting go of Yi. It was just his insecurities speaking for him. And he realized he shouldn’t have said that, so I’m glad (this was in raws, and he was hella mad at himself in latest chapter I believe).

Kang was mad because he realized how hypocrite he was. Not realizing jealousy is actually normal. Yet his statement still stands but that will be on the day Ahn tells him he loves someone else, but of course that will never happen.

Damn it’s possible to not realize you’re jealous? I mean I’ve read stories where that was a trope, but I thought it was an exaggeration.

Maybe I’m just the really jealous type and jealousy overfilled, leading to my realization and shame of being jealous over little things.

And thanks for clarifying. Hell no! The simp would never fall for someone else unless Kang changes in the future and becomes similar to the Minho dude from A Terrible Romance.

Don't get offended but it seems you see Ahn just like how Doyeon sees him. Naive, easy to fool child. His appearance doesn't help either. Doyeon has been repeating this as well since they first met at the cafe. He sees and treats him like a lamb he wants to devour. But he doesn't know Ahn. He is actually more mature than he presents himself as.

Ahn fueled the fire and riled up Kang. Ahn basically created the scene lol. I reread the raws. And I already saw where Ahn said he doesn't like this - it's him on his stomach. He didn't want that. But as they continued, Ahn's face was becoming mush from the pleasure. He was thinking they were in the office. He is one kinky mf.

YES and Ahn has had jerks before, though if I remember right Kang was his first sex because he dated jerks that never ended up on the bed... I'd have to reread On or Off to confirm. So yeah, Ahn is not innocent on partners that he needs to leave.

On Kang's case, well he is older, and has not been in a committed relation for years I think after his divorce. He has been just casual with partners. So he thought jealousy was never in his plate for his age and experience. LOL he thought wrong. My prediction, Ahn will taunt him even more.

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