
I've been reading Yaoi and BL for 15 years, I'm a proud fujoshi. However, since around 2018, I've noticed that many users have been complaining about rape/forced sex and toxic relationships in these stories
Since THE ORIGINS OF YAOI THERE ARE MANY STORIES LIKE THIS!!! Tak for example Junjou Romantica jezz, If you don't like it that's totally fine, but why are you crying about it???!!! Go read something different!!!
I love toxic shait like this btw ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

no one normalizing it, if you don't like then DON'T READ, it was never that deep, you are at fault for reading this WITHOUT reading the warning, it was given everywhere. YOU HAVE the choice to quit, wanna act morally high over fictional character lmao if you wanna do that then don't do it here, there's FAR MORE serious matters like the genocide in Sudan or any other matters that do DESERVE your morally speech. But here ? on illegal website full of FICTIONAL stories is not the freaking place

This is actually very worrisome. Did you know there are old Yaoi stories with yakuza themes and World War II stories? Should those be banned? I'm not saying that you have to like them, but if it's not your thing, just go read something else. I don't want this genre to be banned just because some people believe it's too extreme. Thank God Koreans and Japanese are very closed in their culture and don't give a damn about wokism. Yaoi was not invented yesterday.

THIS!... Is it so hard to understand? I see that almost every Manwha/Yaoi has a warning for certain topics, so you have the hint to NOT READ IT AND READ SOMETHING ELSE. Sometimes I get worried because people are complaining too much about this... but then I see the most popular ones and feel relieved lol (≧∀≦)

You fucking think this isn't important?? You think a story that took inspo from a real case in South Korea where a woman was MURDERED isn't important?? It's not about like or dislike it's about people being human. It's about people thinking twice before trying to justify their words and saying that people are overreacting over something "pointless" or "irrelevant". I read the warning and am grateful to not be reading any of this. The thing that shocked me was the amount of people just rolling with it without even finding it a tiny bit wrong because it in fact is.This IS deep and it's sickening how you're also pulling the " it's all fiction" card as if this isn't happening in real life. Want to know where fictional ideas usually originate from? Reality. Please don't bring in the fact that there's bigger problems in the world as if trying to dismiss that this isn't also a problem. I am fully aware of the genocide because dear people to me were caught up in it.

So that means it's okay? We learn history for us not NOT repeat the same mistakes. You replying to that specific comment truly puts you in such a dark light considering the fact I mentioned murder. I don't need to be an angel to feel sympathy nor does my age matter. We are not born violent, we learn that. But us feeling bad for those that are less fortunate than us IS a human thing.

Yes...? I don't exactly get where you're getting at because what I was trying to get across is that rape isn't simply JUST violence. It's cruelty, brutality and heartless. It's like completely destroying someone and them having to live with it. Extreme violence usually ends up in death, rape ends up in life long misery. Please, what I'm trying to say is that it's heartbreaking to see that stuff happening. At the end of the day, toxic "yaoi" is all reality that has happened to people in the world in some shape or form and extreme stories shouldn't be looked at so lightly. Read them if you please that's none of my business but you (not specifically YOU) finding it okay or justifiable will never be okay.

The fact that you believe -a quote so cliche- that we can improve ourselves as humans based on past experiences is very naive. Have you heard of psychiatric disorders and neuroscience? Do you know how a sick mind can turn from various environments? Do you believe everything can be resolved as long as it passes through the filter of rationality? At this point, I think you would enjoy reading philosophy and the philosophy of science. Just let creators do what they want. Let us read what we want and don't create moral barriers over art.

Truly feel like I'm talking to a wall. It's like you don't want to understand my point? Read whatever you want. Enjoy it while you're at it. And you did prove my point. "Do you know how a sick mind can turn from various environments?" Those various environments you're talking about ARE the same ones that make a human mind so twisted. The same ones that teach the mind to become so twisted. I do enjoy reading philosophy and hope you do too

It's cool to have different points of view. I read everything you said, and I get that you have a point. However, I simply don't agree with you, and that's okay. I'm an art student, for example, and I studied philosophy. The most beautiful thing about humans is our ability to create and fantasize about everything. What I don't think is fair is putting a moral barrier over this. I will respect your arguments, but I don't want people to cry over it so much that they want to ban an entire genre.
It was nice talking with you hehe

right??? like unclench a little, they must be fun at parties... i feel like people who preach about moral in fiction space are the one that's actually can't difference between fiction and reality must be sad living like that, getting all pressed over fictional stories that gave 0 effect to the characters in said stories

If you think being fun at parties = seeing no problem with what I've been talking about in all those replies then yikes.. Idk what to say to you
I know where to draw the line between fiction and reality and think it's extremely simple to do so. I'm also living my life very happily actually and I hope you do too

I like to play Call of Duty and war games... so am I a mass shooter? omg get a grip. You only want validation for literally being so mentally weak. I have over 30s now, have a job I'm a good citizen and pay my taxes XD I love my family and friends... and I'm not a psycho just for loving sick stories...grow up.

You're not a psycho for reading sick stories but you definitely are one for being so hell bent on justifying it, you're 30 yet aren't that mentally capable to understand that just because it's fiction it doesn't make it okay and people are allowed to find these sick "stories" disgusting and that doesn't make them mentally weak

if u live your life happily then stop being a party pooper girl, no one wants you here especially in fandom and fiction space with your oh so high morally bs if anything about dark fiction makes you go into social keyboard justice warrior but cares 0 about the real issues that happening in real world

RIGHHTTT i know damn well they just got into fandom not long ago hence the puritans and moral bs that they keep bringing into fiction spaces lol like i've been in fandom spaces waaayyyy longer than they are and I understand damn well fandom étiquettes, what's wrong and right, between fiction and reality, at the end of the day i'm still a healthy functional adult just because i read sick stories in my spare time lmao

Yes, it is
"Here the main character raped an underage girl in the past, filmed it, and uploaded it on the internet. Since this novel was written after the famous 'Nth Room'*incident in Korea
For PPL who are unaware of what the nth room incident
" is a criminal case involving blackmail, cybersex trafficking, and the spread of sexually exploitative videos via the Telegram app between 2018 and 2020 in South Korea. "
And alot of PPL including goo Hara and many other women sacrificed their life to bring this out
It is extremely disrespectful to use such a sensitive case based on a real life incidents and romanticize it"
Hope this helps because I will not be replying to any of your ignorance anymore.

UNTRUE. You didn't even read the novel. Jiwook filmed Juyeon when they were minors and that is the basis for this whole fucking story. This copy-pasted ass comment is worthless. Next time you wanna co-opt someone else's misinformed comment that exploits the rape and murder of real women, do some research of your own.

Girl I could care less about what people read, I'm in no place to say I'm in a morally higher place nor am I interested in being a moral police, if I was i wouldn't be here reading this, ofc everyone has different morals it's to be expected since we are all separate individuals, but nobody gets to call others weak minded just because they don't find this okay, let's be honest the story is centred around dark theme which i personally don't mind since it's just another genre, but there are maybe other who find it disgusting and talk about how the themes disgust them, but they shouldn't attack people who read these things just like others who read things including themes such as these should not call other weak minded just because others are uncomfortable with it, that was my point (also want to add that just because it's fiction doesn't make rape okay or hot, rape is disgusting everywhere, since I've read the novel i personally think mc deserves everything that's happening to him and should get tortured in the worst way for what he did) honestly it became a large para but I hope we can get to an understanding

The thing is who told u everyone believes that rape is wrong who told you every belived that killing is wrong and many many manyy other things that others think ohh it's obviously wrong , well not really to everyone some people dont have morale at all on the other side we have people that view even beigay as disgusting as rape steal kill (●'◡'●)ノ so yeah it's okay to mention ur view but to judge others that have different opinions that u cus they have different believes is not fair .

Gurl if people genuinely think being gay is same as a rapist, a thief and a murderer then that person is messed up and I said what I said, if people think rape is not wrong they should be locked up. I don't care , there's a difference between reading something involving rape as a dark theme and knowing that it is not real and that rape in any where be it media or reality is not wrong, and I don't think I have to explain it to you, being morally grey and being moralless is completely different, and Good lawrd I hope you're not asking me not judge people who think rape is alright, I hope it's my misconception

No it's not your misconception, to say that these are the morals . Is funny
, u can't just come and say oh well its universal, no its not .
And again everyone’s morals and rules are different and yes not just some people but Manny country's see gay as illegal and punishable like rape killing and stealing
Their country their moral their rule
So yeah don't come here went u don't know what's outside of ur own little bubble .
There is a different between different of opinions and experiences and moral and ----> trying to enforce ur morals as if ur what the one who stats rules in this world's and tell us what's wrong and what's right
It's ridiculous

BRUH, if your "morals" is denying people their basic human rights based on which gender they like then you are a fucked up person, being gay is illegal in countries and it shouldn't, and yeah I'm gonna fight to change it because I don't want people like (gay) fear for their lives, being gay is not a crime and shouldn't be, idk how you're reading a fucking gay novel where mind you mean are literally having sex with each other and then turn around and try to justify countries and their fucked up morals because of which gay people are in danger, and trying to have a conversation like toh is like talking to the wall,

I never mentioned my personal views
Seems like u have comprehension issues
I was stating an example of one of the extreme that exists in many countries, same as we have the opposite of it in Manny other countries too
Again : there are different morals in the world and people believe in it and they would die for it to them
ur morals are not the truth
You can't prove it
It's just personal
It's all I think I believe I see this as wrong and that as right...... nothing objective here .
its fine to express ur morals and ur opinion
But to try and apply them on everyone lol no
But to come and say this is wrong and this is right
Well based on what , on you hhhhh why would we take ur words over someone else

I really loved they story but the only thing that didn't make me enjoy the juicy stuff was the size of his cucumber.... Geeezz it's so big and most of the scenes is Seo looking painful... what's the deal with big dicks if he looks in pain????. The scenes are *dialogue/internal though: it feels soo good //// while the drawing and expressions seems in pain WTF... Also, the teaser chapter *1rst chapter has WAY WORE drawing details than the rest of the story like, gimme more if this guuurrrlll
Aside from the obvious issue of differentiating characters design LOLOLOL. I find it fascinating how the relationship between the prosecutor and the killer develops. The hand gestures, the moments where you can clearly see the prosecutor knows where he is heading... I truly like this. The killer is very attractive, and I'm really looking forward to this story. Please hear my prayers, Father wink wink***