The revenges are satisfying but tbh I don't like how the male characters get a normal death but both the female characters also got raped before they died. I get that their death is related to how they acted before but the first guy was perverted and only got bashed in the head
Think about it this way: just because it involves their butt doesn't mean they got raped. It's like if you put something in their mouth, it doesn't mean they got raped. Two had sexual organs put in them, the girls. The other two were a log and possibly a parasitic insect (which he threatened but didn't have on hand so he probably didn't do it)
Each of them got violated in the way they deserved it and where it hurts. First dude loved bullying and beating up Haruki and he died by the very same procedure. The girl who was inlove with her uncle also got her own medicine, she asked her friends to bully and even SA her friend who teased her. And in exchange, her vulnerability was taken advantage of as well and got slapped hard by her uncle lol. The third dude loveddd torturing Haruki, so he died by torture as well. As for the pig teacher, she raped boys, UNDERAGED BOYS!!! Heck, being raped by pigs is what she deserves for being a disgusting wh*re and touching kids. >:(((
Not true. You said rape isn't sexual, and yet the LEGAL definition of it is: The crime of rape, often referred to as sexual assault, occurs when someone engages in non-consensual sexual conduct against another person. Says nothing about putting anything in anyone's genitals, and anyways that definition that you tried to make up is far too general for it to be applied
But was it rape? Could you define it like this: unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against a person's will?? Where is the sexual nature? It was just assault, plain and simple. There's a torture method using bamboo where they plant a bamboo shoot under a person's butt. When the bamboo grows, it grows through their butt and through their intestines. Would you call that rape?
Is you bitch dumb or are you doing it on purpose ??? Cuz my whole point was that rape is not about sex it’s a weapon used to assert control and inflict harm. Rape is a violent act aimed at overpowering and dehumanizing the victim. Sexual gratification isn’t the motivation; it’s the aggressor’s desire to exert dominance and instill fear. Again sex is about lust and sexual desire while rape is about destroying and harming the victims
You dumbass is mixing everything up. Legally speaking’s if I put a anything in your butt WITHOUT your consent it is rape no matter if it’s a man dick or a chopstick. That’s how the law work if you got a problem with it go take it out with them "non-consensual penetration with any object or body part in someone’s genitals or other intimate areas is considered a form of rape or sexual assault "
There we go. By definition "Rape was long considered to be caused by unbridled sexual desire, but it is now understood as a pathological assertion of power over a victim", so technically he was raped as well. And "Rape is defined in most jurisdictions as sexual intercourse, or other forms of sexual penetration, committed by a perpetrator against a victim without their consent", notice that it said "in most jurisdictions". There are inconsistent definition of the word rape depending on how you wanna use that word. One thing for sure is that you can consider it as rape if the victim was taken advantaged of with regards that the victim did not give consent to whatever was done to them. Anddd the first dude was forcibly penetrated bro( ´-`) just because Shirayuki wasn't really into it and that he didnt go whack pervy shit doesn't mean it wasnt sexual. If the victim feels that they got defiled by their perpetrator, it's rape period(charrrr).
Well seems like you're the kind of person set on making your own definitions and calling other people a bitch for not agreeing with you. In fact, the law is not that black and white where putting something in someone's genitals without their permission is rape. For example, there was a case where a man aimed pressurized water at someone's butt as a joke and later the man who got the water aimed at his butt died because his internal organs exploded. The man who was the perpetrator got charged with murder, but not rape. Why? Because there was no sexual intent. You just think too black and white, thank goodness you're not a lawyer or your client would never get their justice
Exactly. SEXUAL penetration. You seem to miss that connotation. Again, I'll provide another example where something was inserted in the genitals forcibly and it wasn't considered rape: there was a case where a man aimed pressurized water at someone's butt as a joke and later the man who got the water aimed at his butt died because his internal organs exploded. The man who was the perpetrator got charged with murder, but not rape. Why? Because there was no sexual intent.
Based on the actions and intent? Sure, if the ML had shoved the wood stick up and down inside him in a sexual manner or even expressed any sexual intent then it would be rape. But this is the equivalent to having an axe on the ground facing up and splitting a tree stump in half by bashing it against the axe
Yes I did, because what he did wasn't sexual. Did you read the two examples I provided that proved than just because something was unconsensually put in their genitals, doesn't make it rape? I don't feel like writing it all again so maybe take your time reading everything in this thread if you're gonna argue with me
Dude, I will not be arguing with you that's stupid, it's your opinion, and it's fine. It would be a waste of time to continue where can we just read or not read.....Going off track, this manga isn't that wild compared to other manga, manhuas...and Chinese novels now that will make you question everything.
Are you being deadass rn cuz putting there is a whole fucking difference between this case and the ml putting a fucking wooden stick up this guy ass. Mind you you were the one who started being passive aggressive when I didn’t say anything wrong nor false everything I said about rape is backed up by the fucking law once again if you don’t like it go to the nearest police station and take it out with them
I even gave you the legal definition but I guess you know better than lawyers. You are completely ignoring the examples I gave you and making up a definition for rape. Face it, you ARE wrong and everything you said ISN'T backed up by the law. You said that anything forcibly put into the genitals is rape. I gave you an example that proved otherwise, where the LAW said otherwise. I cannot see how you are so blind as to insist that you're right when I gave you outside sources and facts, while you constantly made up a definition about rape that fit whatever mold you wanted to create
Yes, I agree with you there's a lot more wild manga. I myself have read them, I've read a lot of filth myself tbh. Some a thousand times worse than this. I'm just a little tired of misogyny in some bl so I brought up this point. It wasn't even meant to be a big deal, just a pattern I found. What I find surprising is that there are antis who read this manga and are arguing with my point like I'm making a personal attack against them like??? What are they doing at the devil's sacrament you know?
And anyways I have nothing against the author. I'll still enjoy the manga, I just spoke about a little something I was uncomfortable about.
You just can't accept you're wrong can you? Wtf do you mean "Now stop bothering me and talking out of your ass about how YOU think rape is"??? Are you fucking serious? Do you bend reality to fit your views or some shit? I never once "talked out of my ass", YOU DID. You made up your own definition, I never did. Also "And btw the law is more important and legit then a definition on google"? And there are LEGAL FIRMS on the internet telling everyone the definition and also you completely ignored the very real LEGAL case that I presented to you that proved the complete opposite of your point.
Stop acting like I'm the one who's been all up in your business when you're the one who keeps coming back over and over again to comment on my post. Seriously, you're wrong. That's okay. Live and learn. You don't want to be the type of person who is so stubborn that you can't see out of your own ass. Learn a little humility
You provide a case that was COMPLETELY different and had nothing to do with the original scenario. And the fact that you can’t even understand that tell me everything I need to know about you the man got raped and that all. You’re the one who can’t accept the fact that putting ANYTHING in someone genital is rape and that’s you’re problem not mine so yeah stfu. If you want a real life case too I can also give you one then look up the Théo Luhaka case. They were in court for RAPE after they arrested him and forcibly inserted a baton in his butt when he showed resistance
Oml I thought you were done with this shit but here you are, bothering me with your delusional takes again. Are you sure you want this to end or do you just enjoy arguing with people on the internet? Let me address every single point you make:
1. "You provide a case that was COMPLETELY different and had nothing to do with the original scenario."
No, it was not completely different, and it did have something to do with original scenario. The original scenario was a case where the ML put an inanimate object up another person's genitals without their consent. The case also included someone putting an inanimate object up another person's genitals without their consent. And before you make some shitty take about how water isn't an 'object', it is. Look it up.
2. "And the fact that you can’t even understand that tell me everything I need to know about you the man got raped and that all. You’re the one who can’t accept the fact that putting ANYTHING in someone genital is rape and that’s you’re problem not mine so yeah stfu."
Except it just isn't. I don't know how many times I need to say it. It isn't automatically rape. The case that you're so intent on ignoring is basically the same as this one, except with a different object, and the man didn't kill him on purpose. No matter how many times you try and deny the legal and dictionary definition, that's just the plain truth.
3. "If you want a real life case too I can also give you one then look up the Théo Luhaka case. They were in court for RAPE after they arrested him and forcibly inserted a baton in his butt when he showed resistance"
Did you even read about the case or did you just frantically spend a day looking for any possible cases to try and debunk what I said? First of all, I didn't say that forcibly putting an object in a person's genitals NEVER counted as rape. I said that NOT ALL OF IT was considered rape. Obviously verdicts differ case by case. So yours is an utterly moot point.
And sure, I'll entertain you with the case: it's so sad that you tried to use this case to try and prove your point, and yet, THE CHARGE WAS CHANGED INTO VOLUNTARY VIOLENCE, NOT RAPE. Look up the Guardian article about it. Even the LAW disagrees with you.
Oml I thought you were done with this shit but here you are, bothering me with your delusional takes again. Are you sure you want this to end or do you just enjoy arguing with people on the internet? Let me address every single point you make:
1. "You provide a case that was COMPLETELY different and had nothing to do with the original scenario."
No, it was not completely different, and it did have something to do with original scenario. The original scenario was a case where the ML put an inanimate object up another person's genitals without their consent. The case also included someone putting an inanimate object up another person's genitals without their consent. And before you make some shitty take about how water isn't an 'object', it is. Look it up.
2. "And the fact that you can’t even understand that tell me everything I need to know about you the man got raped and that all. You’re the one who can’t accept the fact that putting ANYTHING in someone genital is rape and that’s you’re problem not mine so yeah stfu."
Except it just isn't. I don't know how many times I need to say it. It isn't automatically rape. The case that you're so intent on ignoring is basically the same as this one, except with a different object, and the man didn't kill him on purpose. No matter how many times you try and deny the legal and dictionary definition, that's just the plain truth.
Jesus I can't even reply the second part of it
3. "If you want a real life case too I can also give you one then look up the The0 Luhaka case. They were in court for R4PE after they arrested him and forcibly inserted a baton in his butt when he showed resistance"
Did you even read about the case or did you just frantically spend a day looking for any possible cases to try and debunk what I said? First of all, I didn't say that forcibly putting an object in a person's genitals NEVER counted as r4pe. I said that NOT ALL OF IT was considered r4pe. Obviously verdicts differ case by case. So yours is an utterly moot point.
Jesus I can't even reply the second part of it.
For the part about Theo:
Did you even read about the case or did you just frantically spend a day looking for any possible cases to try and debunk what I said? First of all, I didn't say that forcibly putting an object in a person's genitals NEVER counted as rape. I said that NOT ALL OF IT was considered rape. Obviously verdicts differ case by case. So yours is an utterly moot point.
The reason is because they said it was rape, I said it wasn't. I provided the dictionary and legal definition of rape, which didn't fit what was happening, and they denied it and acted like I was telling lies and making up definitions when they were the ones making up a definition that fit whatever fit their argument. Is this not the case?
Oh and did you notice? After I gave them the legal and dictionary definition, they got SUPER defensive and started calling me a dumbass and a bitch, saying that I was being passive aggressive "when they didn't say anything wrong" which is just false because they gave the wrong definition for rape and how was I being passive aggressive? Giving them the actual definition when they made one up, saying rape has nothing to do with sex when it's a major part of it? And them saying that Google is unreliable but oh this random stranger who's on the internet is supposedly more reliable to define a word than the world's largest search engine?
Since there's a few people in the comments who saw the raws and didn't fully understand what happened, I'll try to give a full spoiler for what happens (very long so be aware and don't read if you don't want to get spoiled!!!):
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MC considers Seunghyun's (brown haired guy) confession. Chapter 23, Joowon (black haired guy) goes off to take a call and comes back to see MC and Seunghyun laughing and blushing together. He looks kind of jealous/not understanding whats happening between the two of them. Later, Joowon drops Seunghyun off and does it with MC in the car without putting it in and promises later to put it in.
MC goes to Joowon and his brother's house to tutor the brother, and tries to avoid Joowon by telling the brother to go shop with him. But Joowon tells his brother that their parents aren't home right now and he has the chance to play his games (? I think) and the brother ditches MC lol. When they're about to do it, Joowon says that he likes it too (things that feel good). Basically it seems like that he's confessing to MC at first, but later MC realizes he's saying that he likes the sex. MC asks Joowon why he can't just have sex with someone else. Joowon gets a little annoyed and says he's done it with MC 3 times and yet he's telling him to do it with someone else? They do it.
Later MC wakes up in Joowon's arms and snuggles with the sleeping Joowon, reminiscing about their old times together and his crush on him during high school. Then he thinks that Joowon made him think this way before and fooled him. That Joowon only did this because he thought his reactions were funny and not because he liked him. He gets teary and sneaks out.
When he gets out, he realizes that he got a lot of texts from Seunghyun. It just so happens that Seunghyun was behind him. MC cries into Seunghyun's arms and Seunghyun takes him to his house. MC tells Seunghyun that the person he confessed to before was Joowon. Seunghyun asks if he can consider him instead of Joowon. They kiss and are about to do it before they get interrupted. Later, Joowon calls and MC is about to pick up but Seunghyun tells him not to. Joowon is confused/annoyed as to why MC isn't picking up his calls.
Later, MC and Seunghyun spend some time together and they finally do it. MC contacts Joowon's brother and Joowon gets angry that MC is fine and not picking up his calls and is about to drive to where MC is. Then all four of them (MC, Joowon, his brother, and Seunghyun) sit outside eating watermelon. They talk and suddenly the topic of marriage comes up. Apparently Joowon is getting married within the year??? Joowon says it's not true. His father has been urging him to get married.
A little later MC and Joowon are alone and they talk about who the culprit who gave MC a hickey was. Joowon says it wasn't him and MC is flustered thinking it's Seunghyun. They have a misunderstanding where Joowon thinks that MC likes his brother and MC thinks Joowon is calling him liking Seunghyun disgusting. But it turns out it's Joowon's brother who gave him the hickey. Joowon is confused why MC thinks it was Seunghyun. Seunghyun and Joowon's brother comes back and MC tries to chase Joowon's brother to teach him a lesson but Seunghyun holds him back. Joowon looks at how touchy-feely the two of them are and seems uncomfortable.
Later Joowon ropes the MC into a date. MC gets a cut on his knee. Joowon nags at him and says that he worries about him because he loves him. MC is unimpressed and says that Joowon is only saying this because he likes his reactions so he's not gonna react anymore. Joowon says he got caught jokingly but then gets serious and asked MC what he should do to be taken seriously by MC.
Joowon drives MC home and when MC tries to get out at his stop Joowon says he even acted as a chauffeur all day and didn't get anything in return? They kiss. Suddenly, Seunghyun knocks on their window and says he has some side dishes to give to MC's mom. They go to MC's house and Seunghyun lets MC know that he saw them kiss in the car. He is jealous and asks MC how many times have they kissed before? Then MC and Seunghyun do it.
Meanwhile Joowon is trying to call MC but he's not picking up. Then he sees his dad and his dad tells him they need to talk. The next day, Joowon shows up at the field where MC and Seunghyun are working and gives them bubble tea. Joowon drags MC away and tells him to give him his phone. He calls MC's phone and it goes through. Joowon is angry and asks why MC didn't pick up. MC says he didn't realized he called. Joowon tells MC to go to his room tomorrow after tutoring to talk. Then Joowon and Seunghyun have a conversation. Seunghyun asks why Joowon is playing around with MC and Joowon says that he's being sincere.
After MC tutors Joowon's brother, he goes to Joowon's room. Joowon tells him that after the date yesterday, he was going to ask for them to start dating. MC thinks that Joowon is joking at first but Joowon makes it clear he's serious. MC asks if that's the case, why did Joowon do what he did at the field trip. Joowon is confused and doesn't remember. MC is very mad and tells him he has nothing to say to him if he can't even remember.
There's a flashback to when MC confessed to Joowon during the school trip. He sat down next to Joowon and right after he confessed, Joowon said "it feels bad" or something of the sort. MC has some trauma about that. Later, Joowon says that MC likes him too. MC gets mad and says that because he liked him, it was easier/more convenient for Joowon to choose him. He says that they can do it again, but Joowon should never say that he likes him again.
They do it and MC passes out on the bed. In the meantime, there's another flashback about what happened during the field trip from Joowon's POV. Apparently he was sick during the field trip and was so woozy that when MC confessed, he didn't hear him at all and was only focused on trying to call his mom. Joowon tells MC that he has sunlight allergy and it was really bad when he was little. After the field trip, he was confused why MC treated him so coldly.
MC cries and says that if Joowon hadn't tried to hide his pain then such a misunderstanding wouldn't have happened. Joowon realizes that's why MC thinks he's joking when he confessed. He asks MC, now that the misunderstanding has been resolved, can he give him a chance now? MC is about to agree when he thinks of Seunghyun. He pushed Joowon away and says that they can discuss it later.
Then, Seunghyun calls MC and says he's around the neighborhood and asks if he wants to meet. MC says ok. Seunghyun gives MC some macarons and says that he came because he missed him. Seunghyun acts puppy-like and MC says if he acts this way around everyone how can they get over him (? not too sure about this). Seunghyun says how about he only acts this way towards MC now and asks him if MC is falling for him. Joowon calls MC which makes MC think about what happened earlier. He's about to tell Seunghyun about it but Seunghyun asks if he wants to start heading home since it's late.
On the way home, Seunghyun asks if MC has reconcile with Joowon. He asks if it was related to what happened in the past and Joowon's allergies. MC is shocked and asks if he knew all along, but Seunghyun just realized it when Joowon asked him about what happened during the field trip a little while ago. Seunghyun said that he almost didn't want to tell MC, but that would be leaving MC with painful memories about the past and he doesn't want that because he likes MC. Then, Seunghyun asks, since the misunderstanding has been resolved, who will MC choose?
oh noo!! i hope that mc ends up with seunghyun, yet i also want him to end up with joowon. they’re both great guys, why not make it polyamory instead
100% agree with this XD all 3 of them get together
Damn thank you for the spoilers !!
marry me
Literally a lifesaver you’re the best (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ but man I really hope Seunghyun is end game, Juwon just rlly pisses me the fuck off and the way he beats around the bush and is just sarcastic in an irritating ass way. Like go to hell. I’ll only accept seunghyun end game or poly relationship!!! Pleaseee authornim (/TДT)/
can’t believe he’s playing with these two hotties I’m team seunghyun but I GUESS I wouldn’t mind if joowon is ML, I think the worst outcome is that the uke chooses them both (I hate that shit)
For me it's team seunghyun all the way!!! No way in hell jowoon!
I have had guys like you were just shopping and dittering about and it wasn't cute esp. because they use insults & gaslighting to hide their own indecisiveness or insecurity! Fuck them!
And you'll, its just very obvious that Jowoon is end game. Mc has big trauma from him & only their story is being covered.
Knowing these greedy publishers & also authors, im quite sure, they will make a side story about seunghyun & jowoon's brother, where the former becomes controlling & jealous!
For some reason these people can't give us a wholesome seme !
Thaaank you for this. Saved my time lol now I know this is not for me. What a shame but we all know who he will end up with. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
thanks for the summary. I wanted to read it only it it was 3p endgame lol