I'm saying their hypocrites because if Hayase was acting like Shinna only a few people would be saying that the story was shit. Every other comment would be about "how hot it is" and "how they can't wait for the next chapter"?
I'm saying their hypocrites because if Hayase was acting like Shinna only a few people would be saying that the story was shit. Every other comment would be about "how hot it is" and "how they can't wait for th... Killer Panda
Oh, do you mean about the kinda forceful-persuasion-into-sex that Shiina used on Hayase? Totally agree. Semes pull that shit and worse all the time. I thought you might mean that people end up sleeping with their exes all the time, so it's hypocritical to blame Shiina so much for it... which is also true.
I'm saying their hypocrites because if Hayase was acting like Shinna only a few people would be saying that the story was shit. Every other comment would be about "how hot it is" and "how they can't wait for th... Killer Panda
Idk why people are concerned with other people's opinions. If you like it, cool. If you don't like it, cool. Is other people's opinion going to change whether or not you like it? If so your opinion wasn't very strong to begin with.
I don't have a rape fetish so I'm not a fan of yaoi that slap on rape scenes to make up for a weak plot. So no, I wouldn't have liked it if it was the reverse either.
YES!!! EXACTLY THAT! It pisses me off so much when I see almost no one get mad about a seme doing it. But if an uke does it they're the worse person ever, and that's all anyone will talk about. What's more if the Shina was the less social one of the two, he'd probably get more sympathy than hate. It's like the people hate ukes who seem confident but are actually insecure.
Idk why people are concerned with other people's opinions. If you like it, cool. If you don't like it, cool. Is other people's opinion going to change whether or not you like it? If so your opinion wasn't very ... @I really don't care
That's okay. I really wasn't point people like you. I was just getting really pissed off at the comments.
YES!!! EXACTLY THAT! It pisses me off so much when I see almost no one get mad about a seme doing it. But if an uke does it they're the worse person ever, and that's all anyone will talk about. What's more if t... Killer Panda
OMG. You just nailed it. People don't realize that the worse traits are insecurity and low self-esteem. People can come up with the most stupid decisions because of those and readers hate on them because of those decisions. Those are traits that psychologically mess up people and readers are hypocrites hating characters as if they are the most logical and pure people who could never hurt a fly.
I'm saying their hypocrites because if Hayase was acting like Shinna only a few people would be saying that the story was shit. Every other comment would be about "how hot it is" and "how they can't wait for th... Killer Panda
Honestly, I doubt it. Imagine this kind of plot: 1. seme forces himself on the uke, who's a virgin, to vent out his frustrations after a failed relationship 2. seme humiliates uke publicly, telling everyone he is a virgin 3. seme leaves uke and go to have sex with his ex... Man, although some people have a 'rape fetish' which is sad, I think the majority of readers would make a hell in the comment section if there was a role reverse. They wouldn't write that seme is 'stupid', they would write they want to cut his balls off etc. Personally, I hate both of these versions, because I dislike this kind of plot in general. Also, I don't agree with you that people 'hate ukes who seem confident but are actually insecure'. There are some stories with this kind of ukes and people love them. For example Nanao from Warui series.
I disagree with 1, mostly disagree with 2, and completely agree with 3 but for a different reason. I've seen the first happen and no one bats an eye. The second usually happens before the first. Because of that, no really cares or remembers. When the third one happens, you do see people saying they should chop the seme's dick but there would also an equa l number of comments saying "No don't you see that he loves you!!".
Also Narui's insecurities are different from Shiina's because Naruri's insecurities come from a curse from a god a thousand or so years ago. Shiina comes from his inability to keep a boyfriend. Nauri's was something he couldn't change by himself. Shiina theoretical could, but he couldn't. When you fail at something you should be able to figure out, it's a horrible feeling when you can't.
I disagree with 1, mostly disagree with 2, and completely agree with 3 but for a different reason. I've seen the first happen and no one bats an eye. The second usually happens before the first. Because of that... Killer Panda
I disagree with 1, mostly disagree with 2, and completely agree with 3 but for a different reason. I've seen the first happen and no one bats an eye. The second usually happens before the first. Because of that... Killer Panda
I think you didn't understand which manga I was talking about. It was about 'Mujihi Na Otoko' and next two volumes, and I believe there weren't any curse from a god in this story ;) Also, I think your statement, that readers wouldn't hate seme if there was a role reversal, is impossible to verify. There aren't a lot of mangas with uke forcing himself on the seme, so we can't really tell a lot about reader's reactions BUT in the story I mentioned above uke kind of did it (I would say it was a 'forced seduction' in the start) and I didn't see any negative comment regarding his behavior. I think it's a matter of circumstances, because uke in 'Mujihi Na Otoko' was in love with a seme, while Shina is basically using Hayase as a sex toy because he's sad and frustrated. If you are interested, you can also check a comment section in 'Yoru to Asa no Uta'. The seme in this story wasn't even a rapist, just a childish jerk, but there were a lot of people that said he deserved to be raped, tortured and pissed on... The things I mentioned are just an example. In reality you can't predict reader's opinion on manga that doesn't even exist. Sometimes there are very similar tropes, but reactions are varied due to some others factor.
I think you didn't understand which manga I was talking about. It was about 'Mujihi Na Otoko' and next two volumes, and I believe there weren't any curse from a god in this story ;) Also, I think your statement... @Yume
Also I read tthe character name wrong. Sorrh about that.
Agree, I'm not a big fan of webcomics and haven't had too many Korean ones I could get past a few pages, but I try giving all a chance. So happy I did in the case. Just read all 7 chapters and sad I now have to wait for more
Because they're probably hypocrites.
Of course everyone who doesn't like this shit manga is a hypocrite! The more you fucking know amirite?
I'm saying their hypocrites because if Hayase was acting like Shinna only a few people would be saying that the story was shit. Every other comment would be about "how hot it is" and "how they can't wait for the next chapter"?
Oh, do you mean about the kinda forceful-persuasion-into-sex that Shiina used on Hayase? Totally agree. Semes pull that shit and worse all the time. I thought you might mean that people end up sleeping with their exes all the time, so it's hypocritical to blame Shiina so much for it... which is also true.
Idk why people are concerned with other people's opinions. If you like it, cool. If you don't like it, cool. Is other people's opinion going to change whether or not you like it? If so your opinion wasn't very strong to begin with.
I don't have a rape fetish so I'm not a fan of yaoi that slap on rape scenes to make up for a weak plot. So no, I wouldn't have liked it if it was the reverse either.
YES!!! EXACTLY THAT! It pisses me off so much when I see almost no one get mad about a seme doing it. But if an uke does it they're the worse person ever, and that's all anyone will talk about. What's more if the Shina was the less social one of the two, he'd probably get more sympathy than hate. It's like the people hate ukes who seem confident but are actually insecure.
That's okay. I really wasn't point people like you. I was just getting really pissed off at the comments.
OMG. You just nailed it. People don't realize that the worse traits are insecurity and low self-esteem. People can come up with the most stupid decisions because of those and readers hate on them because of those decisions. Those are traits that psychologically mess up people and readers are hypocrites hating characters as if they are the most logical and pure people who could never hurt a fly.
Honestly, I doubt it. Imagine this kind of plot:
1. seme forces himself on the uke, who's a virgin, to vent out his frustrations after a failed relationship
2. seme humiliates uke publicly, telling everyone he is a virgin
3. seme leaves uke and go to have sex with his ex...
Man, although some people have a 'rape fetish' which is sad, I think the majority of readers would make a hell in the comment section if there was a role reverse. They wouldn't write that seme is 'stupid', they would write they want to cut his balls off etc. Personally, I hate both of these versions, because I dislike this kind of plot in general. Also, I don't agree with you that people 'hate ukes who seem confident but are actually insecure'. There are some stories with this kind of ukes and people love them. For example Nanao from Warui series.
I disagree with 1, mostly disagree with 2, and completely agree with 3 but for a different reason. I've seen the first happen and no one bats an eye. The second usually happens before the first. Because of that, no really cares or remembers. When the third one happens, you do see people saying they should chop the seme's dick but there would also an equa l number of comments saying "No don't you see that he loves you!!".
Also Narui's insecurities are different from Shiina's because Naruri's insecurities come from a curse from a god a thousand or so years ago. Shiina comes from his inability to keep a boyfriend. Nauri's was something he couldn't change by himself. Shiina theoretical could, but he couldn't. When you fail at something you should be able to figure out, it's a horrible feeling when you can't.
that was to Yume
I think you didn't understand which manga I was talking about. It was about 'Mujihi Na Otoko' and next two volumes, and I believe there weren't any curse from a god in this story ;)
Also, I think your statement, that readers wouldn't hate seme if there was a role reversal, is impossible to verify. There aren't a lot of mangas with uke forcing himself on the seme, so we can't really tell a lot about reader's reactions BUT in the story I mentioned above uke kind of did it (I would say it was a 'forced seduction' in the start) and I didn't see any negative comment regarding his behavior. I think it's a matter of circumstances, because uke in 'Mujihi Na Otoko' was in love with a seme, while Shina is basically using Hayase as a sex toy because he's sad and frustrated. If you are interested, you can also check a comment section in 'Yoru to Asa no Uta'. The seme in this story wasn't even a rapist, just a childish jerk, but there were a lot of people that said he deserved to be raped, tortured and pissed on... The things I mentioned are just an example. In reality you can't predict reader's opinion on manga that doesn't even exist. Sometimes there are very similar tropes, but reactions are varied due to some others factor.
Okay I go check them out. :)
Also I read tthe character name wrong. Sorrh about that.