Mind Fork's Topics (86)

Lmao right???

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we're truly hopeless HAHA but it feels goooood

the way they relationship began was really yikes but since it's a manga idc as long as the alpha's doing better now (●'◡'●)ﾉ

I really forgot too. Everyone looks pretty much the same so it can get so confusing to remember who is who lol

YES! the light haired characters overlap imo. The limitations of b&w but also so many characters to remember

Yeah lmao Especially since it can take years between updates and I couldn't find it in me to reread the last two volumes before this one

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Started reading this when it first came out, I can officially say that I grew up with this manhua. I don't even care about their relationship progress lol as long as it keep updating.

HAHAHA sameeee. Can't believe it's been this many years but there's so much comfort in the slice of life of it all. And it still makes me squeal like a teenager when someone really cute happens. I'm a bit sad that the main couple has been a bit left behind lately though

The website refused to show it but my reply was a shaking hands emoji （￣へ￣）

I can message you the artists account if you like! It’s an OC

yesss please, thank you for your hard work btw!!

Asking the real question

lmaoo I got distracted so easily

Agreed.
It feels like the author either didn't plan far enough ahead, changed their mind about the original plot or just said 'fvck it' and started winging it by drawing whatever they like. Which would make sense given how slow updates are.
I like the characters but the story is getting a bit too much for me lately, sad as it is. I would have prefered keeping the original level of drama instead of cranking it to eleven. XD

HAHAHA your reply made me laugh so hard!
I've been following Viewfinder since I was a teenager and I really can't make peace with the fact that it's still going on. It's truly the Days of Our Lives yaoi version. I love the art and I love the character, Asami's evolution was truly wonderful but yeah like you said, please guys GO BACK TO JAPAN. I feel like apart from the extras, they haven't been in Japan in 12 years HAHAHA
I don't know if you've read it but the author did the same with her other big manga called "Crimson Spell". She completely lost me with the over the top plot...Let Akihito get kidnapped in a normal way! No more brainwashing!

Happy to make you laugh! :D
And SAME! I've found Viewfinder when I was in school and it was I think my first serialization comic that I was obsessed with and made me up my standards for stories having actual plot and good writing. Which is exactly why I find it sad it turned out to be the way it is today.
The switching of locations is one thing but a bigger problem for me is honestly that we started with a detailed hint at a mafia plot and now we get a borderline fanatsy story. I expected the story to focus on the conflict between russians, chinese and Asami's group, not get a magical wizard-looking fvcko that drugs and controls our MC and a side-line villain. WTF? :'D
Ah shit, I DID read Crimson Spell, I was just waiting for more chapters over the years and forgot about it. Such a shame, that was an interesting story as well. ╥﹏╥
Maybe the author should just put the stories on hold and try making some small, new stories like when they started out. That could help, maybe.
At this point I just hope that they now go back home and we get a normal plotline again and no more randomness. Tho given they both now basically said 'I love You', maybe the story will just end nilly willy like that. I could totally see that happening.

To be fair on lessons part, he probably has a lot of internal conflict when it comes to his feelings after what Caesar did to him, so being indecisive is probably the easiest way for his brain to stay calm

Leewon not lesson. (Autocorrect sorry)

I meaaaaaan
Considering every thing the poor man was subject to I would also ask myself if I have some sort of mental disease or if I love a man like that

Yes, I completely agree with you but to me this kind of indecisiveness and doubt belongs in the heart of the story, not in the side stories which are usually there to add bonuses to the manga/manhwa and not make us feel like the main couple still doesn't really belong together lol I'm just being whiny because Leewon has been getting a my nerves a bit even though I used to really like him

LMAOOO that's true but when we read this kind of stories we pretend we do not see how toxic it is (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I just wish he would make up his mind though lmaoo

Yeah I definitely still think like that now since none of this is real and I’m just here to enjoy a story, no matter what happens in the end. It sucks how times have changed for the western side, but the eastern (Asians) still remain the same

This is what we call "pro-shipper," meaning we can ship anything we want as long as it's 2D

I'm glad the eastern side is having fun, I saw some nasty stuff in Twitter when some asian artists were being harassed by mostly western antis and the asian artists were so SHOCKED to have to explain to people that it's not real and that liking it in fiction doesn't make you an immoral person. Let's do our best to have fun and stay safe! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Yes! I'm just sad that we need a word for it now when it used to be the normal thing to do ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Definitely agree with you. In my early fandom days the line between fact and fiction was just self-explanatory. No one needed to make a disclaimer because the default is obviously "don't confuse fiction and reality". I'm a bit worried about younger people in fandom feeling unreasonably bad about enjoying things because it's something that would be somewhat negative in reality. I really don't mind whatever development the author decides on, but I wonder how younger readers feel. Ofc "Don't like, don't read" is still practiced to this day, but I can't help but think that people tend to get worked up over the things they dislike so much more now. When I don't like something about a fictional story I gloss over it if the work is otherwise nice, or I just don't read it and forget about it, but I've seen many on social media wasting their energy on complaining. Idk, it's weird and concerning but also fascinating.

I've been a bl fan for 8 years too, but please, stop acting like people are sensitve or something for hating the fan service, as it is weird. Fiction affect reality and even if it didn't affect you, or me, it can affect other people, especially if they already have thoughs of incest (intrusive thoughs). Personally I don't really care about the fanservice (as it's obviously one sided & i read way worse shit) but people who are uncomfortable and complain about it are more than valid & actually give some awareness to people.
(This isn't meant to be hate!!)

I completely agree with you! People tend to make what you ship into your whole morality and confuse fiction and reality and it's very worrying. They spend so much time hating on things they don't like instead of enjoying what they like. I kinda blame this on yaoi/ships/fandom having become so much more mainstream and it pains me to say that cause I'm so happy that we have all this stuff compared to the early fandom days but if I had know what it would bring with it...I would have been happy with my niche yaoi stuff. I also agree with you about the fascinating part, in kind of a morbid way cause you see them destroying themselves over lines on a screen and FAKE stuff and the saying "touch some grass" never made so much sense.

Don't worry, I haven't received it as hate at all but what you're saying is, to me, VERY worrying. When you talk about people with intrusive thoughts being affected by taboo content, I feel like you're entirely missing the point. Those people don't have a "healthy" brain to begin with. They need therapy and professionnal help, they don't need censorship. Seeing incest doesn't make you have incestuous thoughts if you don't have any past trauma or mental disorder to begin with.

A healthy brain by definition is able to differentiate between fiction and reality. I won't say that fiction doesn't ENTIRELY affect reality cause it certainly can affect our emotions but someone mature can decide to NOT READ something that makes them uncomfortable (and mature people are the target audience for yaoï, I feel like too many people forget that yaoï is by definition EXPLICIT. Shonen-aï is the soft sexless version of it).

Like I said in my original message, if people are uncomfortable, they're completely valid and should immediately remove themselves from what's causing them harm. But they do not get to decide and dictate what all of us are feeling about it. And if we like seeing Big Potato in love with Papa Wolf, it does not make us bad people just because some people are uncomfortable with it.

I do think that all of this would not have happened if the manga had had additional tags to warn people about what's in the fanservice. But what I'm seeing is people knowing the fanservice could happen and instead of not reading the manga anymore, they try to make other people feel bad or guilty and they keep exposing themselves to it even though it's harmful to them. That's the problem in today's fandoms: people need to learn to stop seeking what they hate. You would never see me seeking scat manga but I would never advocate for scat manga to be banned.

Sorry for my harsh tone in this message but I'm an old grandma now in fandom age and now that we have so much more content in all the flavors imaginable and with so many ways to avoid what we hate, I just feel so bitter when I see people wanting to bring the dark ages back. Take care!