Listen I get the theorizing but there Gilgamesh is just one of many gods out there. I don’t think he’s a Greek god unless Mojito is referencing ore-hellenistic mythology (which is real possibility).
There a couple possibilities. I’d have to go back and re-read the chapter when FG was actually introduced (as an ally to Isis) but if it is a Greek god then I’m thinking Posideon. And if not then maybe something g like Abzu (Babylonian primordial deity that shares a very similar role). I think he’s associated with water (mainly because his introduction was in part related to the time Isis tried to just flood everything). If I recall he was a part of the plan.
Fully convinced the author wants to make it fully gay but every time he tries an editor pulls out a gun.
“Cat God” what do you mean none of you know who Bastet is? She’s like one of the most popular Egyptian gods in the pantheon? She’s the symbol of the most beloved animal in the world.
She’s also, pretty important thing to note here, also sometimes considered to be a gentle half of SEKHMET!
Y’all are so blinded by yaoi misogyny rage that you can’t even recognize one of the most popular and beloved Egyptian gods of all time (who has been fairly reasonable in all of her appearances).
I’m just…how the fuck do you not know who she is?? Literally how?? I’m not even a big Egyptology nerd I just like cats and I knew at least that she was Bastet (the Sekhmet part I kinda knew but don’t blame people for not knowing). But also how are you gonna read a story that:
a). is based on Egyptian mythology,
b). puts a lot of effort into representing the culture and story with cultural accuracy,
and not at least take time to LEARN about the original story/setting the manhwa is based on?
Wild ride of a story. Genuinely great read and you come out of it feeling like you’ve learned something about yourself. I think there were a lot of moments I felt held a lesson for me as an adult; about being vulnerable, about being honest with my feelings, about trauma.
It’s freaky, mature, and overall well written. I know I’ll be coming back to re-read this in the future. Hoping to get a little sequel about the ex-FWB and the single dad. I wanna see them actually get together.
Y’all are being way too harsh on Kazu. Like his crime is being stupid and not realizing he has a crush on his friend and being kinda inattentive. He’s not even a cheater cuz all the girls are clearly aware and okay with their current set up. It’s just a polyamorous relationship.
Kazu also realizes he was neglecting his friend and realized that he hurt Yuki. He clearly cares about him and wants to protect him. He also DOESNT realize he likes Yuki romantically because he’s stupid.
I get that Yuki is monogamous and probably wouldn’t be comfortable with the polyamory set up so it will probably end with Kazu breaking up with the girlfriends and only dating Yuki but like why is it a crime to date multiple people before your final partner? Why are y’all so weird about people who have sex or multiple partners consensually (cuz again all the girls know and are cool with this)?
Don’t get me wrong I think Kazu deserved the wake up call. Yuki was well in his right to cut him off for neglecting him as a friend and basically using him. But y’all act like this man is the devil.
He didn’t even cheat on Yuki cuz they’re not in a relationship, he’s just stupid and spoiled. And now he’s aware of the fact he was being stupid and spoiled and is willing own up to that he wants a second chance. He clearly cares about Yuki, he’s just dumb.
Separate note: lowkey kinda sad Yuki doesn’t want to just be a part of the harem cuz I think it would be so funny if he and the girlfriends unionized. Like Kazu gets mopey cuz Yuki scolds him and he goes the girlfriends and they’re like “nope Yuki-san told us about the fuck shit you’re doing and we stand with him”.
Honestly it’s not worth the time or energy. It’s 100% all just the MC getting abused. None of the questions you have will be answered. Not even through subtext or hidden themes. This was just torture porn.
I thought maybe everyone was exaggerating the Author’s words or maybe it was taken out of context. In my head I thought, “oh they probably meant they enjoyed the catharsis that came from creating this scene or maybe they meant that they felt proud of how they did it.” It wasn’t a particularly graphic or titillating scene so it didn’t make sense to me how it could he “exciting”. But yeah no the Author’s Note is totally whack.
For those curious she outright says she got “excited” by the idea of Seno being violated. Like word for word that’s what she says. Now she also says she felt said and pitiful regarding the scene (which honestly is kind of strange to me because it really is such a brief non-explicit scene) but the comments aren’t exaggerating, it totally felt like an inappropriate comment to make regarding the topic at hand (and specifically how it was framed). Or if not that it was just very weird and disconcerting, it completely takes you out of the story.
Cute story though just…very strange author.
TL;DR Isis is a deep and complex character that is more than "spiteful wife who blames victim". She doesn't actually blame Seth for Osiris raping him (she does still victimblame but more in a "why did you talk to me first" way). She also was using Seth as a tool to punish Osiris which is really why her character is so fucked up.
Morally dark gray but better for it (as in she's very interesting and I love reading her POV).
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Isis is probably one of my favorite characters in ENNEAD which is pretty controversial given the fandom seems to collectively agree she kinda sucks. And the thing is I also agree she kinda sucks but I think that's part of why she's such a fascinating character.
Something a lot of readers get wrong is the idea that she genuinely blames Seth for Osiris's infidelity but the manga pretty out right tells us that she was actually much more angry as Osiris. The whole "my dead husband" thing was an act and she wanted Seth to be obliterated so Osiris couldn't have him. Also probably because Seth kind of forced her to rock bottom, killed all her women, and hunt her like a dog but punishing Osiris and making Horus king was her primary goal.
What makes Isis such a fucked up and fascinating character is the fact that her desire for Seth's destruction feels less like her trying to punish Seth and more like an honor killing. She was genuinely traumatized by his assault. I encourage readers to go back to the earlier chapters and the chapters where she's talking to Seth and really look between the lines. Isis genuinely loved and cared for Seth. That wasn't just her friend that was her brother. This is speculation but I kind of wonder if Isis thought destroying Seth was a way of purifying him. She hated him but she loved him. Like how she loved and hated Osiris.
She was wrong. The way she dealt with things was wrong (and it's the same for Seth. I think many fans kinda gloss over the fact that he killed thousands of women and children and hunted Isis but the thing is neither of them were ever bad they were broken. So deeply and profoundly broken.
I know others feel bad for the Emperor and I do too but he’s still a bad parent. Like do I understand and empathize where he’s coming from? Sure. I also think he’s unfit to be a parent.
I cannot believe the author fumbled this story this hard this early on.
Let me be clear, my issues have nothing to do with the subject matter. But it has everything to do with pacing and how the characters are handled. Because the first chapter really sets up a story that’s going to be full of suspense and mystery, something like Erased, where the readers piece together the truth alongside the MC. I expected the priest to be a suspect and maybe even the real killer but it wouldn’t be confirmed until late into the series, or even if the reveal was early it would be to the audience and not the MC, which creates a sense of Dramatic Irony and horror.
It’s a lot to pull from a first chapter but that was the vibe I got and it turns out I was completely wrong in the worst way possible.
It takes a little over a single chapter for the priest to go “it was me all along”, for the MC to despair and then for some fucking reason forgive the priest, and then go back to him. And I’m just left standing there, “what?”
I know the MC is starved for a genuine and kind relationship, that the public’s rejection of him (understandably since most think he raped and murdered a child) would push him to cling to the first person who’s even slightly nice to him. But like even with that in mind his rejection and turn around is just way to fucking quick. He’s known this dude for like what? A couple weeks at most, if not days.
I think if the author had stuck with the idea of him being clingy and obsessed with the priest, immediately forgiving him or even lying to himself and pushing himself into a deluded state to cope with this new reality, it could work. It would make sense even. It shows him as someone so deeply unstable due this deeply traumatizing event, so desperate for any kind of human connection, that he could look over the horrible truth that his savior is who condemned him in the first place.
But we don’t get that characterization, he reacts with horror. He’s sickened by the truth and he’s compelled to run. And that also makes sense but it doesn’t make sense for him to have such a quick turn around, simply because the author barely spent enough time to build a convincing relationship between the two. Again, all of this essentially occurs w/in the span of a single chapter.
Okay but MAYBE it’s all a lie. Or MAYBE he’s not actually forgiving the priest and this is actually a ploy for revenge.
It still doesn’t really help how much of a whiplash this string of events was. This kind of reveal and reaction would take multiple chapters in a decent murde-suspense manga. Like Erased for example. A good reveal, even if it’s a red herring, requires build up. It requires suspense. It requires mystery. This manga tossed that all out for “OH PLOT TWIST (except it really isn’t because everyone and their mother expected this) IT WAS THE BLACK HAIRED PRIEST ALL ALONG” by chapter 3.
I love suspense and I love BL and I was really hoping for something that combined those interest but instead I got a cheap plot twist.
Let me know if it gets a lot better but for now I’m dropping this.
