No_Name1123 October 22, 2024 6:49 pm

After re-reading the entire story from the beginning cause I need a refresher, while I don’t fully agree, I actually understand where the people arguing that Skyler does not like Cirrus are coming from. I personally feel like the more accurate conclusion is: Skyler does like Cirrus to an extent, but Cirrus LOVES Skyler while Skyler only likes him.

But I don’t blame people who think Skyler doesn’t like him in that way considering if you re-read it Skyler has NEVER once stated that he loved or even liked Cirrus romantically. Not only did he never tell Cirrus, but we as the readers have also never heard him say it from any of his internal monologues. The closest we got is him suggesting they date, but that was only as a suggestion to try things out since he knows Cirrus confessed. It felt like a trial to see if Skyler could actually potentially develop feelings for him.

I think this makes the fight they had in chapter 100-101 even worse because Skyler, someone who has never once stated he had feelings for Cirrus, told him that he’s only second choice cause he couldn’t have Chan-il. When they made up after it didn’t help either because after Cirrus stated something along the lines of “I’ll wait until you like me back” insinuating that he believed Skyler’s words about Chan-il, Skyler never tried to correct him.

The issue with Skyler not providing any verbal affirmation about his feelings is he has to make up for it through actions. Like if you’re the type of partner who doesn’t like verbalizing your love, you’ve gotta show it some other way you know? But because of Skyler’s trauma, he avoids being overly affectionate so he can’t even do that. So he’s never too affectionate through actions or words.

From Cirrus, perspective, it’s fair to say he still probably sees Skyler as someone who doesn’t like him as much as Chan-il yet at least. Which is fair considering how lukewarm Skyler always is about their relationship. I say lukewarm cause as a partner, his contributions to their relationship is not bad, but not good either. He’s just kind of there while Cirrus is doing the heavily lifting of fighting for him, showering him with I love you’s and I like you’s, getting him gifts etc. He’s showing his love through both words AND actions.

Skyler on the other hand, avoids him though actions, never verbalized he liked him romantically, never verbalized to the readers either that he liked him romantically, and told Cirrus he’s only with him cause he can’t have Chan-il and never clarified.

    Mimi October 23, 2024 6:16 am

    I think you have to consider how their relationship started. Cirrus started liking Skylar while Skylar still hated him for all the blackmail stuff. It started off super toxic with Cirrus being the one in power.

    The fact that Skylar got to the point of wanting to date Cirrus after the blackmailing should be notice enough that he genuinely does like him. How he refused to believe what Dongshik had told him because he trusted Cirrus. Then how hurt he was when he found out he’s been lied to this whole time.

    Skylar definitely has a harder time showing his emotions (makes sense considering his backstory), but he definitely shows it plenty of times, such as that one time where he camped out with Cirrus at the spa after Cirrus chocked his step-mom. Cirrus was full on crashing out and pushing Skylar away but Skylar stayed because he was worried, and he verbalized this to Cirrus. Once things calmed down, he kept checking up on how he was doing without pressuring him to explain what’s going on. Even Cirrus notes that Skylar is the first one to ever care (this all happens before they started dating btw, Skylar had no obligation to stay the night, he could’ve gone home).

    Cirrus is more obsessive/outward with his love (again, makes sense considering his backstory) which I think throws most ppl off into believing he likes him more.

    gash October 23, 2024 11:44 pm

    you both cooked so hard, i bet y'all wouldn't even write an essay for school. (i read the whole thing btw)

    Mimi October 24, 2024 3:42 am
    you both cooked so hard, i bet y'all wouldn't even write an essay for school. (i read the whole thing btw) gash

    LMAOOOO (you’re right tho)

    ecofriendlywoodveneer October 25, 2024 10:47 pm
    I think you have to consider how their relationship started. Cirrus started liking Skylar while Skylar still hated him for all the blackmail stuff. It started off super toxic with Cirrus being the one in power.... Mimi

    You're invited to my Litc tea party
    (●'◡'●)ノ

    hope world ^ ♡ ^ October 25, 2024 11:24 pm
    you both cooked so hard, i bet y'all wouldn't even write an essay for school. (i read the whole thing btw) gash

    Right?? Love the whole analysis.

    No_Name1123 October 27, 2024 5:26 pm
    I think you have to consider how their relationship started. Cirrus started liking Skylar while Skylar still hated him for all the blackmail stuff. It started off super toxic with Cirrus being the one in power.... Mimi

    So I don’t completely disagree with you. But I also want to emphasize two points you made. You said the one-sidedness is over exaggerated because we are seeings things from Cirrus’ pov and cirrus is too obsessed. However, you also said Skyler does not express himself a lot because of his trauma.

    So I agree with both but I also feel like those two points combined make it more nuanced than you’re saying. Yes, Cirrus’ obsession is a contributing factor, but just as you said, Skyler’s trauma is holding him back. So, that is definitely a major contributing factor as well.

    Cirrus, while not perfect, has chosen numerous times to at least attempt to change, moved on from his past and face the trauma he has. Skyler is the opposite. Skyler avoids his past and likes to pretend it doesn’t exist. That’s understandable, but when you start things like relationships where it depends on being open, brave and trusting with one another, the lack of growth is definitely damaging.

    So I definitely still feel like while you are right, Skyler avoiding his past is still also a part of the problem. And it is because of that, that their relationship feels one-sided. Also after their fight and reconciliation around chapter 100-104, Cirrus apologized and promised not to do anything like that again, and he kept it. He has not been as obsessive since.

    The consequences he’s getting now are things he did before his development and before he’d started dating Skyler. So while he still deserves the karma, this also should not diminish his current growth. His current self is not as it once was.

    That’s why I feel like the one-sidedness issue itself (not every problem in their relationship since most of them are Cirrus’ faults) is mainly due to Skyler’s lack of growth this season. I am hoping and confident that in future chapters Skyler will also have his own growth moment after facing his traumas.

    No_Name1123 October 27, 2024 5:28 pm
    you both cooked so hard, i bet y'all wouldn't even write an essay for school. (i read the whole thing btw) gash

    Lmao yeahh I would need 10 business days to write a sentence.

    Mimi October 28, 2024 3:27 am
    So I don’t completely disagree with you. But I also want to emphasize two points you made. You said the one-sidedness is over exaggerated because we are seeings things from Cirrus’ pov and cirrus is too obs... No_Name1123

    I think my point was misunderstood (or maybe I worded it poorly, so let me try again):

    We see things from both POVs. Skylar does express his feelings, just not as overtly as Cirrus due to his trauma. And maybe I’m missing something, but I really don’t understand what ppl mean when they say Skylar doesn’t try in the relationship/hasn’t changed? I mentioned an example of things he’s done before they started dating (the spa camp out) but even after dating I feel like we’ve seen a bunch.

    Im copying the below part from another comment:
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    The first chapter after they started dating, Skykar brought over fireworks so that they can celebrate it together since Cirrus had missed the festival. When Cirrus talked about how it’s lonely living alone but he’s used to it so it should be fine, Skylar suggested they live together during college so they he’s not lonely anymore and they can take care of each other ther. He went and got a haircut for Cirrus despite him feeling more comfortable with long hair since it’s easier to hide behind it When that kid from Cirrus’ elementary school tried to confront Cirrus, Skylar immediately tried comforting him by leading him away from the situation. When they continued to be followed, he got angry on his behalf and got into a fight (this is before knowing Cirrus’ backstory. He had no context to why the kid was mad but just didn’t like how he was treating Cirrus). Skylar never pushed him about the topic of his past, saying it didn’t matter since it was in the past. And then when Cirrus does tell him, he sees through the facade Cirrus puts up and instead he comforts him and tells him it’s not his fault that any of that happened to him. He declines to hangout with Chan-il, despite them being friends before he started dating Cirrus, because he became more understanding and acknowledging of Cirrus’ feelings of jealousy (and they both apologize for that fight that happens at school).

    I agree with you that Skylar was always paranoid to be seen with Cirrus because he didn’t want to be outted again, but he does acknowledge this and apologize for it. Like that one time where they went on the movie date to make it up to Cirrus after he’d pushed him away at school. Obviously he’s not perfect and still lets his past of being outed haunt him every now and the (like when he had Cirrus hide out in the bathroom), but to say he never even tried and just constantly pushed Cirrus away is erroneous. We barely get any chapters of them dating tbh but from what we got, they both did try to better themselves. I think the best example of this is Skylar deciding to trust Cirrus’ word and believe he had a reason for everything, despite his trauma of being screwed over by his old bff. That’s huge growth. Both Dongsik and Chan-il told Skylar what they knew, but he places his trust in Cirrus. That was him prioritizing Cirrus. Him trying to move on from the past by not jumping to conclusions. For the same outcome to occur and him to be wrong in placing his trust in someone is pretty
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    I don’t mean to diminish Cirrus’ growth at all! The old Cirrus definitely wouldn’t have apologized for this things he’s done in that school fight. But again, that doesn’t erase his past actions which is why I’m able to understand how characters are reacting to him these past few chapters (although it’s sad ). Although they’re far from being perfect, I think they’ve both shown growth and hopefully we see more of it and get to resolve their trauma.

    No_Name1123 October 30, 2024 8:09 am
    I think my point was misunderstood (or maybe I worded it poorly, so let me try again):We see things from both POVs. Skylar does express his feelings, just not as overtly as Cirrus due to his trauma. And maybe I... Mimi

    Ah i see your point now. I was honestly kind of wondering if I misunderstood you as well so thanks for clarifying :).

    Mimi October 31, 2024 5:34 am
    Ah i see your point now. I was honestly kind of wondering if I misunderstood you as well so thanks for clarifying :). No_Name1123

    Im glad i could get it across, I think I worded it kinda poorly in my first comment hahah

No_Name1123 October 15, 2024 5:27 pm

No offense but Skyler is kind of a hypocrite. Don’t get me wrong, Cirrus definitely did worse and all of this is the consequences of his own actions so he deserves it (except for the hurtful words Skyler said to him at the end). But Skyler did the same shit with Chan-Il with no consequences. To remind you guys: Skyler was supposed to confess to Chan-il about his stalking. Although it wasn’t fair for Cirrus to blackmail Skyler, it did still get Skyler on the right path which was to confess the truth about his stalking to Chan-il. But at that point Chan-il and Skyler started having a really good friendship and Skyler ended up never telling him because he didn’t wanna break it. And eventually Cirrus grew to like him so he didn’t expose him either.

But the point is they did the same shit, so while Skyler does have the right to get mad since he’s the victim, it’s also the pot calling the kettle black cause he did the exact same shit with Chan-il and, unlike Cirrus, Skyler was able to GET AWAY WITH IT. Which is why I still feel like Skyler is a hypocrite.

    Sachika_Chiyo October 15, 2024 6:07 pm

    I think that's the point though. At the moment, neither of them will be thinking of what Skylar did since it was a while ago and they're only thinking of each other. Skylar would probably confess at some point later in the story. It's also the fact that Skylar and Cirrus are in a relationship, where they're supposed to trust each other while Syklar and Chan-il are just friends. Don't get me wrong, Skylar is still wrong for that but at this point of the story, we don't know when or how the truth about Skylar will come out. Right now the focus is on Skylar and Cirrus, not Skylar and Chan-il.

    Also, it's not the exact same thing since Cirrus also kind of made the situation so Skylar would see Chan-il and Ri-in together. Skylar seeing them, would hurt him and would also lead him to Cirrus. He probably sees it as Cirrus just hurting him to get them together or their relationship as some sick joke to Cirrus.

    These are just my thoughts though and I just think Skylar feels more betrayed by the thought that Cirrus made him get jealous by 'running into' Chan-il and Ri-in. Im not trying to play favourites but I believe that part has to be included if you want to talk about hypocritical factors. Anyway that's all I think, not trying to be mean(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    No_Name1123 October 15, 2024 7:26 pm
    I think that's the point though. At the moment, neither of them will be thinking of what Skylar did since it was a while ago and they're only thinking of each other. Skylar would probably confess at some point ... Sachika_Chiyo

    I agree with your points, but my issue is mainly the lack of time. My understanding is that the manhwa is going to end by the end of the month which would mean we only have a couple more chapters left. Cirrus being the only one to face consequences while every other character is ignored or excused by the narrative makes there feel like there is an imbalance against Cirrus. That’s what’s really been throwing me off while reading the 2nd half of this final season. Every other characters’ growth feels like it’s been stagnated or rushed due to only focusing on Cirrus.

    Of course, if I am wrong and the final season is not ending soon, then there is definitely time to focus on Skyler as well without it feeling rushed. But I’m not sure as of the moment.

    Sachika_Chiyo October 17, 2024 3:00 am
    I agree with your points, but my issue is mainly the lack of time. My understanding is that the manhwa is going to end by the end of the month which would mean we only have a couple more chapters left. Cirrus b... No_Name1123

    actually going to bawl my eyes out bc I only now just realised its ending this month.
    ( T﹏T ) But yeah I just really want them to have a happy ending and resolve everything. I was kinda hoping for the author to look into the other characters stories too just a bit but at the same time they should take a break (▰˘◡˘▰)

No_Name1123 September 12, 2024 6:17 am

Honestly the only reason I’m slightly more frustrated with Skyler even though Cirrus has done worse is because of the lack of consequences or growth.

Cirrus was definitely worse than Skyler so I understand people’s irritation with others “babying” Cirrus. But the thing about Cirrus is no matter how big or small his mistakes are he ALWAYS gets consequences. Either indirect karma, direct or both. He’s literally facing the consequences of past actions now even. And what’s even better is that he’s been taking these lessons to heart and growing and developing so much this season as well. He’s still not perfect, and he has a long way to go, but he’s been changing and you can see that change.

With Skyler though, we have not seen him face consequence, learn from his mistakes, or properly regret his actions. This isn’t the first time this season that Skyler has weaponized Cirrus’ trauma deliberately due to being hurt (1st time was saying he’s chan il’s replacement and NEVER clarifying what he meant even after they reconciled). Cirrus also isn’t the only person Skyler behaved like this with (remember the horrible things he said to his mom just because he was hurt during his backstory). Yet Skyler has not properly acknowledged or changed from those incidents.

Again, I understand Cirrus was a worse person than Skyler, but just because Cirrus is worse does not mean it’s okay for Skyler to never acknowledge or change his own bad habits, especially when it’s contributing to the rupture of their already unstable relationship.

    Cher loves cats September 12, 2024 9:53 pm

    Skylar karma is him being a loner, didnt have any friends, and have anxiety disorder, vomitting when he's in panic, being forced to take meds by his mother, and what else would he got? he is the type of someone who wouldnt explode if you just leave him alone. he got beaten up for kissing a boy in the entire year of middle school, his misery only end when his mother talked with minwoo's parents. and oh, he also said that he would say everything to chan il, so look forward to that!

    about him saying cirrus is chan-il replacement, cirrus knew he was saying that out of anger, and cirrus keeps on pushing skylar's trigger by mentioning middle school knowing how that would anger skylar more .. he even said he wanna be the best and worse person for skylar. the next chapter they made out in bed with skylar saying a genuine sorry.

    I stressed this again and again, skylar is someone who exploded when he's being bothered, this nerd mf would only be a neet depressed gay introvert if cirrus didn't come to his life. and even though cirrus brings chaos (and happiness for sky as he's becoming his old self again by being more of an extrovert), I fully support their relationship. just dont like it when there's a chapter about how cirrus got his shit for something he self awarely cause, people suddenly "but skylar .... why skylar ...." like man, the story is revolved with their relationship started bc of cirrus blackmail and the problems in their relationship caused by cirrus so ofc cirrus got more karma.

    "it’s contributing to the rupture of their already unstable relationship." nope, the Fact is, skylar didnt cause the unstability, he's the one who brings stability in their relationship as helping cirrus get on his life, caring for depressed cirrus, and literally ... literally he never started shit during their relationship as a boyfriend, he never intentionally hurt cirrus just for fun, all the bad things he do mostly a reaction and you can say he's overreacting or whatever. but one OBVIOUS thing is, he never never cause problem with full intention to make him miserable.

    as for cirrus that man even said "skylar i want you to be more miserable than me so i can go on living"

    in conclusion, if you dont trigger skylar, if you leave this gay bitch with fake glassess wannabe nerd alone, he would stay quiet! He wont do anything if you dont poke him.

    No_Name1123 September 12, 2024 11:45 pm
    Skylar karma is him being a loner, didnt have any friends, and have anxiety disorder, vomitting when he's in panic, being forced to take meds by his mother, and what else would he got? he is the type of someone... Cher loves cats

    While I agree with you to an extent, I think there’s a lot we don’t see eye to eye due to a difference in priorities. So let’s agree to disagree. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I think we just have different trigger points so my opinion varies from yours.

    Cher loves cats September 13, 2024 12:16 am
    While I agree with you to an extent, I think there’s a lot we don’t see eye to eye due to a difference in priorities. So let’s agree to disagree. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I think we just have diff... No_Name1123

    i dont prioritize anyone in my comment, i'm seeing it thru how the plot and conflicts are written in THEIR relationship. repeatedly their conflicts are always like this. I can even put what chapters when they have their low moment, and 100% all of that cirrus is the one who started it. the formula in their relationship conflicts are like this:

    cirrus : do shits
    skylar : reacting to that
    somehow readers: Skylar is too much!

    if i want to "prioritize" i would glaze hard over cirrus as he's in my top 5 fav ML lol. and it's kinda icky i noticed the "skylar bad" conversation only coming up when the chapter is about cirrus getting his "fuck around and find out" moment. previously, when skylar was just being happy and smiling towards cirrus, no one mentioning how he should get karma lol

    i'm always open to discussion, maybe i sound agressive but trust me i'm just passionate about reading fiction and talking about the overall plot

    No_Name1123 September 13, 2024 7:41 am
    i dont prioritize anyone in my comment, i'm seeing it thru how the plot and conflicts are written in THEIR relationship. repeatedly their conflicts are always like this. I can even put what chapters when they h... Cher loves cats

    I don’t believe you were aggressive. I respect your points and even agree with some of them. I’m sorry if I came off rude, I just felt like the way you viewed certain aspects of the story were different from how I do which is why I said let’s agree to disagree. I don’t mean to dismiss you.

    ChickenButt September 13, 2024 2:36 pm
    i dont prioritize anyone in my comment, i'm seeing it thru how the plot and conflicts are written in THEIR relationship. repeatedly their conflicts are always like this. I can even put what chapters when they h... Cher loves cats

    Regardless, the whole using Cirrus’s past against him was nonetheless fucked up. But I do agree with you on other parts, that Cirrus is worse than Skylar. Yes Cirrus may have changed but his consequences caught up to him, wrong timing for sure but it is what it is.

    winter September 13, 2024 3:35 pm

    Very well said

No_Name1123 September 11, 2024 5:30 pm

It’s weird cause in the previous seasons I was more interested in the 2nd couple and was happy they were getting more screen time. But I feel like the author’s kind of stretching it now.

The first couple hasn’t even straightened out any of their issues yet and it feels like they’ve been stagnant for like almost 2 seasons now cause the author continues to focus more on the 2nd couple. I just wish the author would let the 2nd couple finally reconcile so we can focus on the 1st couple properly.

Every time it looks like something interesting is gonna happen to the 1st couple, we switch povs to the 2nd couple. It’s like whiplash sometimes.

    Miza September 11, 2024 9:09 pm

    Word! I really enjoy both couples, but it feels like author is favouring one.
    We didn't get any eunjea/san last season and my heart still aches for eunjea and how no one cared for him in his past life. I find myself skipping over geumsun/703 panels now (which are basically whole chapters), cause i just want to see eunjea getting some tlc

No_Name1123 September 7, 2024 4:15 pm

I know the story teased carcel and oscars horrible relationship as children in previous chapters. Does anyone know if the rest will be revealed to us this season or much later?

    StoryofMinglan September 7, 2024 4:40 pm

    Answer






    Much much later. The rest is revealed on the day before Carcel leaves for war near the end of the story. So most likely during the final season of the manhwa if they don’t end up cutting this part altogether.

    No_Name1123 September 8, 2024 5:05 pm
    Answer Much much later. The rest is revealed on the day before Carcel leaves for war near the end of the story. So most likely during the final season of the manhwa if they don’t end up cutting this part alto... StoryofMinglan

    Got it thanks :)

No_Name1123 August 3, 2024 4:13 pm

It’s interesting that apparently the rumors of Carcel being a womanizer who slept with every women in existence is greatly exaggerated, and Ines knew this fact. I’m assuming she used the exaggeration to her advantage in the beginning and Carcel didn’t feel the need to correct her. Maybe because he felt like since he did indeed sleep with a couple of women anyway, correcting the amount of them didn’t matter?

    StoryofMinglan August 3, 2024 4:38 pm

    Ines actually based all of her knowledge of Carcel on the rumors from her time as the crown princess. She didn’t actually know Carcel very well and she admits this around the time she invited the crazy lady into their home to seduce Carcel. Manhwa just simply cut all of it out. Quite frankly, she still has a lot to find out about Carcel and lots of it will shock her.
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    Novel excerpt when Carcel left the room to get a wash cloth and Ines reflects on her actions to the incident she plotted to get him to cheat:

    ….She briefly scoffed at herself. 'Come to think of it, I didn't know anything about Cárcel Escalante who could've married anyone.' This was why it was dangerous to draw conclusions that were never experienced.

    Of course, if she thought about it a little more, she didn't even know that 'original' Cárcel Escalante very well. A playboy with many followers. Words that could've been used to devalue him were not as varied then and now. Everyone only sees the loudest aspect of others.

    Not getting married was considered a major flaw, regardless of gender, and he, who was considered to be the most handsome man in the world beyond borders, was too conspicuous wherever he was. When Cárcel did one thing, ten stories were created the next day. Later on, she got to the point of being sick and tired of the loudness just from hearing his name.

    Of course, only Inés had enough of the noise that had no sign of abating. Yes. He was always noisy.

    No_Name1123 August 3, 2024 5:18 pm
    Ines actually based all of her knowledge of Carcel on the rumors from her time as the crown princess. She didn’t actually know Carcel very well and she admits this around the time she invited the crazy lady i... StoryofMinglan

    It’s interesting they decided to cut that line out because it makes everything a lot clearer. It feels like the manhwa either intentionally or unintentionally decided to take a more show-don’t-tell approach instead of both showing and telling like in the novel.
    Because for the most part, the manhwa does a decent job of visually conveying Ines’ thoughts. But a lot of it is not verbally stated so those who don’t read into the visuals in front of them might not make those realizations.

    StoryofMinglan August 3, 2024 5:33 pm

    To add to the above, Carcel is actually an anti-social person. He doesn’t have close friends and he doesn’t particularly like to attend social events. Women chased him in this current timeline as well as the previous timelines. He didn’t chase them.

    Ines already realizes that a lot of those rumors were probably made up by both women and men. Women who lied that they slept with him and men who bore jealousy towards him. There is a lot that Ines reflected on immediately after the crazy woman incident. She remembered seeing Carcel in the court during the timeline when she was the crown princess and he would be surrounded by nobles who wanted to ingratiate themselves with him and then talk behind his back. Ines described Carcel as a tall, impenetrable fortress that no one could get close to. She even observed how he would look at her and he never smiled at her and often looked troubled when she appeared. In other words, Carcel stayed away from her and mostly everyone like a loner.

    That’s why when his eyes became cold during the crazy lady incident they reminded her of the version of him from the court back in that timeline and she grew nervous in the current timeline. The reason why she began to cry after he came back into the room with the wash cloth was because she was relieved that he didn’t abandon her after he looked so cold after she pulled that stunt. Manhwa made a mess of the story flow during this arc.

    loser kdj August 4, 2024 2:55 am

    thank god i read the comments bc this just makes me love them as characters even more. so many people dropped this bc they thought cárcel was an awful man who fucked any woman that threw herself at him and ines deserved better but so wrong they were. at the end of the day, cárcel has loved and respected her in many timelines and they truly belong together.
    also, i’m not surprised that rumors were exaggerated since he’s of such high status and a incredibly handsome man. people love to talk, more so when is about such people like cárcel.

    StoryofMinglan August 4, 2024 6:40 am
    thank god i read the comments bc this just makes me love them as characters even more. so many people dropped this bc they thought cárcel was an awful man who fucked any woman that threw herself at him and ine... loser kdj

    Yes, Carcel’s character is revealed over the story. Some think he got character development but what he really got is character revelation. The fact that his character is consistent from timeline to timeline makes Ines realize she was ‘wrong from the start’ about choosing him for her original purpose. Her plan was always going fail because as the story progresses, she realizes what an amazing husband she has to the point that she genuinely believes that she doesn’t deserve him. It takes Carcel’s mother’s advice to help her realize all that matters is that Carcel loves her and she’s completely worthy of that love.

    The manhwa too cast Carcel as the only one worthy of criticism but the beginning of the novel story had readers criticize both characters. The manhwa mostly covered up the actions and thoughts that made novel readers criticize Ines. Some say it’s because it’s important to have readers root for FL because an unlikable FL is detrimental to the manhwa story for Koreans.

    Another thing is, Korean novel readers asked the author in her Q&A, why did Carcel sleep with others in this timeline. This question was asked because readers had finished the entire story and they already saw all of his character and thought it was unlike him to sleep with others. Well, it’s because a lot of psychological issues were involved. Carcel spent 9 months out of the year in Calztela. He lived a celibate life there. It’s only when he went to the capital Mendoza that he slept with others. It seems that he felt pressured whenever he went to Mendoza and the end result was rebellion. Author said that rebellion also protected him from the assassination attempts of the crown prince at a younger age.

    No_Name1123 August 4, 2024 6:03 pm
    To add to the above, Carcel is actually an anti-social person. He doesn’t have close friends and he doesn’t particularly like to attend social events. Women chased him in this current timeline as well as th... StoryofMinglan

    Wow, they really cut off a lot. That sounds like at least a whole chapter’s worth. I hope they don’t continue that pattern because it could make characters come off as inconsistent even when they’re not.

No_Name1123 June 25, 2024 2:32 am

Wanted to ask someone who read the novel this:
I’ve been seeing mixed spoilers so I’m not sure, but will Ines’s indifference towards carcel when they were children be brought up and shown once again this arc or were beginning chapters in season 1 the end of that? Cause some people are saying they’ll bring up Ines’ treatment towards carcel once again while others are saying the mom’s mention of Ines having no interest in him this chapter was the end of that, so I’m not sure.

    StoryofMinglan June 25, 2024 10:24 am

    It will be addressed. Ines herself will gain self-awareness. Remember, Ines is the one who gets the most character development which was much needed. Ines has not developed as a person in any of prior timelines. In all prior timelines she was still selfish, self-centered, and didn’t care about others except the men she chose.

    So, beginning with ep74, where Isabella mentioned her ZERO interest in Carcel, the next chapter will reveal how harrowing Carcel going off to war was for his mother. His mother will mention how she couldn’t sleep and she would sit up all night to prevent nightmares but she would still doze off and dream of her child bloodied and dying on the battlefield. Listening to his mother, Ines is struck with guilt. She reflects on how lightly she has taken Carcel’s life while there was someone who was agonizing in fear over his life. She recalls how he would always send her short letters to inform her that he’s still alive and he always ended his brief letters with a PRAYER that God is keeping her well or some other benediction. Ines will feel even more guilty when she goes to collect those letters and it is clearly evident that Carcel was writing in a rush or writing on scraps of old paper because he’s at war and supplies are scarce. She become cognizant of just how much she has disregarded his life and how she just always dismissed his letters with her future knowledge that he was always alive when she dies in prior timelines.

    The above is only the beginning. She would later find out how Carcel was almost killed because of the engagement to her. He was only 6 years when that happened. This event even affected the marriage of his parents in a negative way that resulted in Carcel’s younger brother not knowing some of the experiences Carcel enjoyed when his parents were closer. However, Ines will only find out the part that Carcel was attacked when he was just 6 years and she rightly realized that she pointed her finger at him and never thought of what could happen to him. She takes this incident seriously to the point that she even tells her brother about the incident later.

    There is more because added to that, the hidden timeline will be revealed and Ines will be shocked at the many hurtful things she said to Carcel. This timeline in particular will reveal just how patient and kind Carcel has always been to her even when she’s throwing spiteful and hurtful words in his face. Present day Ines will be so shocked by her past self that she gets fearful that Carcel will remember that time and how awful she treated him.

    You can look forward to Ines changing and developing along the way provided that manhwa team doesn’t strip the author’s work further with their ability to cover up Ines’s flaws.

    StoryofMinglan June 25, 2024 10:32 am

    Oh. I should also add that the only reason the letters from him still existed is because her waiting lady Juana had put them aside when Ines would have burned them. It’s for that reason she was now able to read them with interest and regard for Carcel’s life because Juana insisted on saving and storing them. His letters also made her aware that he never worries her by saying he’s safe and well but she saw the scars on his body from war. This is when she realizes even more that Carcel always endure his pain, physical or emotional and doesn’t tell anyone. The fact is, he began to do this ever since the incident when he was 6 years old and his mother cried and his parents argued. After he witnessed that, he endured all the physical bullying in secret because he didn’t want his mother to cry. So, he learned to tolerate pain. His tolerance for pain is something mentioned in the novel several times. Ines herself notices it about him.

    Ohmarwin June 25, 2024 12:50 pm

    Wow

    HRAensn June 25, 2024 1:32 pm

    Yes her neglect and odd treatment of Carcel will be addressed in the Mendoza arc.

    No_Name1123 June 25, 2024 4:35 pm
    It will be addressed. Ines herself will gain self-awareness. Remember, Ines is the one who gets the most character development which was much needed. Ines has not developed as a person in any of prior timelines... StoryofMinglan

    Thanks for the detailed spoilers. I’ve been seeing spoilers that the story is about Ines’ development so I was wondering what events trigger the more drastic changes. This definitely clears it up.

    No_Name1123 June 25, 2024 4:47 pm
    Oh. I should also add that the only reason the letters from him still existed is because her waiting lady Juana had put them aside when Ines would have burned them. It’s for that reason she was now able to re... StoryofMinglan

    It’s admirable that after going through all of those hardships Carcel has never acted like someone who’s gone through hardships.

    No_Name1123 June 25, 2024 4:52 pm
    Yes her neglect and odd treatment of Carcel will be addressed in the Mendoza arc. HRAensn

    Thanks!

    StoryofMinglan June 25, 2024 5:13 pm
    It’s admirable that after going through all of those hardships Carcel has never acted like someone who’s gone through hardships. No_Name1123

    This is the kind of person he is. Just like he sent her to Mendoza where his father has the mansion well guarded for security while he stays back alone in Calztela to face danger without telling her because he doesn’t want to disturb her peace of mind.

    Him June 25, 2024 8:26 pm

    Long ass comments y'all must rlly be invested in this story.

    StoryofMinglan June 25, 2024 9:17 pm
    Yes her neglect and odd treatment of Carcel will be addressed in the Mendoza arc. HRAensn

    Mendoza arc is also is kind of like the enlightenment arc as well. I always saw Calztela arc as kind of the healing arc because as Isabella said, she recognized right away that Ines had changed and was happy. She had finally begun to bloom and will be the talk of the town.

    Ohmarwin June 26, 2024 5:46 am
    Long ass comments y'all must rlly be invested in this story. Him

    Hehe yes! More than that!! ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

    StoryofMinglan June 27, 2024 1:37 pm

    Here are the raw for today and the images show what I spoiled.
    https://newtoki342.com/webtoon/39759878

    StoryofMinglan June 29, 2024 4:43 pm

    Oh, guys note that Ines said in this chapter that Carcel wrote to his ‘fiancée-in-name’ only. Even she admits there was no relationship between them.

No_Name1123 May 31, 2024 5:37 pm

My issue with Chungi isn’t that he messed up once. It’s cause he made that same mistake twice with no consequences.

1. He first gaslights the mc, making him feel like it was his fault and then dips.
2. Then he triggered the ml completely unprovoked just cause he can and then dipped again.
3. On top of that, he never apologized for doing either of those things.
4. He also keeps sticking to the idea that he was dating the mc in the past even though they both understood they were just fuckbuddies and used that misconception to justify/ excuse all of his wrongs.

And none of that has been resolved and now the main story has been interrupted at a climactic moment in order to watch chungi and the manager have fun instead. It just makes it hard to enjoy the chapter and his character as a whole.

    Sarafffff May 31, 2024 6:07 pm

    From what I've seen in the raws he's at least gonna have to face the consequences of what he did to Inwoo but yeah same I wished they would've adressed all of this before they started the thing between him and the manager.

    Okami_Senpai May 31, 2024 6:10 pm

    I’m the biggest Chungi hater

    volticar June 1, 2024 1:32 am
    I’m the biggest Chungi hater Okami_Senpai

    same

No_Name1123 May 22, 2024 6:26 am

I’m fine with age gap romances if at least the older one met the other as an adult. Their backstory just turned me off from the hyung cause he basically saw the mc grow up. I don’t know how I feel if he’s actually the second ml lol.

    Alex May 22, 2024 6:55 am

    100% agreed I was kinda into it before but then he knew him as a kid and watched him grow up it's all gross now idk why you have dislikes...it would be weird if they hooked up

    Kitty464 May 22, 2024 9:12 am

    Agreed, i mean i thought they have adorable bond or what so ever u want to call, but reading this chapter, i kinda feel meh about it if in future he is 2nd ml fr, i just know he will play major role in story i didnt think this way, good knows

No_Name1123 May 21, 2024 1:12 am

For everyone getting mad and asking why is blondie’s here, if you guys remember taeman told him to protect dahyuk since it’s his fault their in danger anyway. So if you're one of those guys who hates him and wants him to make up for what he did, y’all should be happy right now, not upset cause he’s following through with what he owes right now.

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