Aime's Topics (182)

THIS^ the biggest problem in the story is that he didn't feel even a little sorry, no remorse. He cheated, treated his bf as shit. Didn't apologise.
Just no.

Lmao same. The three of them would be the perfect throuple

I know right ヾ(☆▽☆)

My thoughts exactly ヾ(☆▽☆)

Exactly my opinion! I wish more people shared your point of view. Everytime I comment badly on rape scenes I get downvoted. I try not to read rape mangas, but sometimes the tag isn't even there...

I think it's because some people feel personally attacked (for liking it) and they become super hostile even though you're only saying something super obvious such as "rape is bad". And I totally understand you, even I, try to read yaois with real consent but it's so damn hard? Rape became a fucking normality, like we don't have a choice but to get used to it??? And many scenes are actually rapes but it's so romanticized that firstly there is no tags for it and secondly many readers doesn't even realize that what they're reading is rape. And it is so easy to say "but it's just fiction" when some people can't even tell when fiction depict toxicity. Many readers are mean as hell and super immature anyway. I love yaois but sometimes I'm so close to stop reading it because of all the toxicity due to the abondance of rape and clichés (which sometimes looks heteronormative or sexist or kinda homophobic) but also because of all the immature readers who litteraly harass people with different opinions and different tastes.

Yes, you're so right! Putting aside the fact that rape is awful, respecting each other tastes and opinion should be the norm, but the moment you don't agree with whatever you're reading everyone seems to get mad. Just why? You like this, I like that, and it's perfectly fine! You don't have to be rude about it.
The fact that rape is so romanticized is one of the things that make my stomach lurch. I think that's one of the reasons many people fail to recognize that what they're reading is rape. Because there's no violence, then it's not rape? Because the body can't help to biologically react to stimulation, then it's not rape? That is something that makes me so angry too. The only thing absolutely defining rape is lack of consent, and that should be clear enough.

OMG YOU'RE SO FUCKING DAMN RIGHT OMG （/TДT)/
It's such a pleasure to talk to you, it warms my heart for real to see how mature and clear minded you are, you made my day ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

Thank you! It was very nice for me too to find someone else with an opinion like yours. I know that rape in mangas are so much romanticized because most of them come from Japan, where rape is not actually a prosecutable crime (can you believe it?!), but c'mon... this is an online translating site for a reason! Readers here are mostly westerners, and we're taught what rape actually means. Or maybe I'm being too dilusional...
Anyway, either people know what rape is or they don't, but different likes and opinions should be respected.

Ikr ??? I can understand that people have different tastes and opinions and that there is actually some people who like romanticized rape BUT not everyone like this shit and 90% of yaois have rape in it. And this is the real problem. I need some diversity dammit. Yaois with rape in it are normalised while thoses with real consent became exceptions but ???? Shouldn't it be the other way around ???? It actually worry me for real (￣∇￣")

Yes! But what's worse, when you try to discuss it with others and make them see, they go for your throat. I mean, I'm not a preacher and I certainly don't intend to turn this site into a debating table.
What you just said, I also said in another line of comments for a certain manga. Read it if you're interested. People's views were just "who cares?"
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/4739661/

Damn I read it and it's frustrating. One of the answers was "Because it's normal in yaoi who cares" but???? What is this logic??????
We should care about it because it's normal!! We should care about it because it's part of rape culture. Some people say that they can differentiate fiction and reality, they're against rape in real life but when it's fiction, it's not real so it doesn't matter. But, often, the ones who say that have a very stereotypical vision of rape. They believe that it is something violent with a stranger in a dark alley. But actually no? 8 times out of 10,the victim knows the rapist. And it's not necessarily violent, manipulation is well enough. Many are raped by their own boyfriends but they are in a huge denial because they don't believe it's "real rape" (the stereotypical one) and they make up excuses because their bf loves them and if they don't want to sleep with their bf it'd mean that they are not really in love. Funny how even a big ass adult can be in denial with something so obvious which is consent. You say no, your bf forces himself on you, but it is not rape??? What nourish this type of behavior is rape culture. It nourish denial. It minimize, justify, normalize and romanticize rape and toxic behaviors and some readers integrate those behaviors which are paint as something hot, cute, romantic and steamy and they'll accept them in real life. And at zero moments they'll realize it's rape since it's not a "real rape". Some might integrate some shitty morals that can be found in too many yaois which are : "even if you don't want it now, you'll feel good eventually" "I'm doing this because I love you" "you say no but your body wants it". And those words are said by real people in real life who had actually raped real people. But as I said, many victims won't even realize that they were raped. It is the case for people who don't read yaoi, so just imagine those who actually read it? I'm not against rape in fiction but it should be presented as a rape, as a crime and not something cute and romantic (it will then, depend on people whether they like it or not depending on their own kinks, which must not be judged btw). I understand that some people love this fantaisie, but in order to put some distance you have to be well aware of what you're reading and when it's so romanticized and normalized, it becomes quite hard to put some distance. I read yaoi since I'm 13 and I didn't realized that some scenes were rape until I re-read those when I was 19.(sorry, I'm writing you a novel at this point ).

Whoa, you spoke highly of my clear mind but I see that yours is as well! We practically mirror each other sentiments on this. I'm really, really happy to have answered your first comment!
When you dig deep enough, it's incredible how little people think of sex with an impartial head. There are so many terrifying misconceptions! Like the fact you mentioned, that you can't be raped by your partner because you are in a relationship. This happened to me once when I was still little, maybe 9 or 10 years old, and I was watching whatever film with my family when there was a scene in which a wife was reporting his husband for raping her... and I didn't understand it, I asked "But they are married?", because at that tender age I believed all marriages were full of love and married people always wanted to kiss each other and do stuff. I was so confused, why wouldn't the wife want to be loved? And my mother, calmly, told me "Even if they are married, if she doesn't want but the husband still forces her, that's NOT an act of love". That remains with me until today. It was then that for the first time ever the thought of it being non-consensual presented to me, and it made me feel so sad to think that something supposed to be beautiful could be harmful instead that I could have cried. It was almost an epiphany.
Another misconception that pains me, the typical "If you're in love, you must want to do it". Excuse me? Not everyone is as libidinous as the other. What about asexual people? Just because they don't feel desire doesn't mean they can't love with all their heart.

Truthfully I'm also really happy that you answered my comment !!ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~ It's so refreshing and I feel like I could talk to you for hours, because I really like talking to you ! Never have I ever thought that I'd have this kind of deep conversation with someone with whom I'm on the very same page on Mangago !
You are really lucky to have had this kind of conversation with your mother, she seems open minded. It's super important to teach this kind of things to children ! But everything related to sex in general is so taboo... And I think that it is the main reason why there is so many misconceptions. Because people are not well informed.
Asexual people are super valid !! Even people who love sex don't always want to have sex, they're not always horny and it doesn't mean that they don't feel anything for their partner, it's just... idk it's human ? People can have sex without being in love and be in love without having sex. And I think that love shouldn't have norms because it's different for everyone. Some people don't fall in love, some fall for more than one person, some have physical love, some have platonic love, some fall for a different gender and some fall for the same gender and they're all valid. Humans are really complex. Some people forget that even if we're all the same, we're also very different, and they can't accept that people have different opinions, different point of view, different way of life, and because they can't understand, because some things can't apply to them, they believe that it's not valid, that's it's not possible, that it's abnormal and weird.... (I don't know if it's clear, English isn't my mother tongue so it's not always easy to make myself understand)