I don't care that she's "just a kid", she's super annoying. Like, c'mon !! Listen to the adult, kiddo !!!! Especially in this kind of situation !! Look at the consequences of your immaturity !!! If she had listened to him he wouldn't have been in this state. Lmao I really can't stand children in general........ Especially if they behave like her.... (￣∇￣")
not u blaming a traumatized abandoned child
Lmao she's annoying bc she didn't listen to him. Every kids can listen to an adult. And just bc she has a tragic backstory doesn't mean that I'll not be annoyed? I can understand her situation and still be annoyed by her behaviors? Do I have the permission to be annoyed or will the internet police will come to arrest me?
im just sayin you cant expect kids to listen to every little thing adults say u probs didnt listen but go off ig
I don't expect kids to be mature, I'm perfectly aware how childish and immature they are and that's the reason why I don't stand them ? Just bc I'm not surprise doesn't mean I'm not annoyed ?
can't* stand them
um ok?
so what's ur problem then
why r u takin it so seriously damn chill out
Sorry, I felt attacked by your first comment, it felt kinda aggressive so I was on the defensive. Sorry bout that, bro/sis
For those who don't understand the last chapter = seme is drunk and he is actually imagining (and talking to) his previous master (who is dead and was into bdsm) while fucking uke. Uke is in love(?) with seme so he doesn't say anything and go with the flow. Seme was/is in love(?) with his previous master but he died so he has regrets for sure and uke is jealous of the previous master bc he realized that seme's heart belong to the previous (and dead) master. I hope it helped lmao.
(the previous master is the one with tattoos on both of his arms)
Thank you for this. I was a bit confused with what is happening and you just cleared it up.
No problem ! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ This yaoi is sooooo hot and good, but a bit hard to follow haha
Thanks for this. I think it's even harder to understand because they all look alike ╮(￣▽￣)╭ I mean they're all very well drawn but I wish the Mangaka could draw the character more differently, inside of just adding tattoos, scars etc as "distinguishable" features
If i didn’t read this comment, i never would have understood what was going on so thank you!
Why does everybody hates han ? What did he actually do to deserve so much hatred ? I mean, he kinda looks suspicious ngl but he didn't actually do or said anything so... (apart from being the second lead but it's not a good reason for me...) So... can someone explain ?
Maybe because he treats his sex friend as a replacement? I think it wasn't a bad thing though. He didn't deceive him or anything
He gets in the way of Hwi X Param ship
There we go
I don't remember any of that tho... I also don't hate him, and I really liked the 3some haha. And there is sooooo many semes who are so much more worse than him. I mean, I don't understand why some semes are so loved when they're real assholes when he gets so much hatred when he actually hasn't done anything at all....
But they're sex friends, not his lovers so what's the problem....?
That's it ? that's super childish. I mean, not loving him could be understandable but hating him ???? Just bc he loves/is attracted to Param ?
he like jerked him off without consent (mr han did that to param) i’m pretty sure
Well not everyone should have a reason to hate someone (character) we just don't like him that's all
are u talking about chapter 25 ? bc I reread it and it doesn't look like there is no consent
hating someone and not liking someone are 2 different things. I just saw a comment saying that they'd drop this if he ended up with Han bc they hated him so much. I mean, if the story opened with Han's point of view, if we all knew from the very beginning that they were both attracted to each other, I truly believe that everyone would be hating Hwi bc he'd be the one who gets on the way of the 2 people who are attracted for each other from the beginning... Don't u think so ? (I'm totally rooting for hwi X param btw)
IKR, like there is no reason for people to hate on him they just don't like him cause they want the mc to end up with hwi, and I get it I also like hwi but still kinda stupid for everyone to hate on him like that.
Well thats their problem.
Saying they'd drop it cause of that is .....
Everyone doesn't like something for different reasons
For me, he gets in the way of the ship I'm rooting for.
Don't exactly hate him, but he's annoying and I want him out. But thats pretty much it. I don't exactly hate him, just want him away from the other two lolol
Others may hate or dislike him with the same reasons as me, or something else ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Others may "hate" him, others may just "dislike" him
IKRRRRR, and judging from the answers, some people have distorted memories about him. They hates him without real reasons but bc they hate him, they believe that he did nasty things when he actually hasn't done anything at all apart from being attracted to Param haha
in that case, I don't see any problem, it sounds quite logical. But do you actually dislike him to the point that the dream (3some) put you off ?
disliking him is understandable but hating him just bc he's attracted to the MC but wasn't presented at first, is really childish.
I dislike him for the main reason i think that was stated in also in the story and thats tha Param likes him the whole time, but believes he is hetero and when we find out that he isnt its kinda like that he ignored Params feelings the whole time. Also its kinda obvious that he has a dark daark side. All those rumors going around and you can just see how he tries to hunt down Param like its some game. Im pretty sure if there wont be some crazy change in authors mind, Hans character will go more down the hill. Last note is that i also kinda dont like Param now either, since he is literally playing with Hwis heart. I was kinda weird out that he was so traumatized by Han never telling him hes gay and that letting him do that to him while he has this thing with Hwi.
And they say that he jerked param of without his conset like girllll, hwi raped param when he was drunk what consent are you all talking about , I want threesome soo bad right now (=・ω・=) (am also team hwi btw)
I mean, I can agree with u about the fact that he looks sus af, but he didn't actually do anything at all. The only thing the readers know for sure is that he's reaaaaaaally attracted to him to the point he can only imagining him (even when he fucks around). Nobody knows if his obsession is the same Param had for him or if it's toxic.
I disagree when it comes to "ignoring his feelings" I really think that he didn't actually know about his feelings at the beginning, that's why he didn't tried anything.
Han isn't supposed to know that Param has a thing for Hwi (well, now he knows there is something going on, but he didn't know before), so he kissed and jerked him off, believing that they were both attracted to each other (which is actually the case, even tho Param is attracted to both Han and Hwi).
I don't dislike Param, I mean, he's not in couple with Hwi, and I can't blame him to be attracted to the 2 men. I mean, at first he was attracted to Han only, but he ended up having a physical relationship with Hwi (who knew that he had a crush on someone else) plus it is his very first physicall relationship so it kinda influences his feelings. And now that he's eventually became attached to Hwi, he realized that the one he had a crush on from the very beginning is also attracted to him. The one person he thought he could never reach is actually into him. But because he had lost any hopes for Han, he became attached to Hwi, the one who's actually willing to love him properly (physically and emotionally). But now it's a big turn around because he can actually be with the one he thought he could never have but he's also attached to the one who knows him the best and loves him sincerely. So It's pretty much understandable that he's hesitating.
(that's a long ass message, I'm so sorry about that)
IKRRRRRRRRRRRR LMAOOOOOOO
we totally understand each other bro/sis/babe ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
IKRRRR you're so damn fucking right ! I couldn't agree more
I don't particularly care... Since.. I'm disgusting
But Hwi x Param is still endgame for me
Lmaooooo then, there is absolutely no problem between us then
Peace
And so did hwi by blackmailing param (im team hwi btw)
Damn, she could have locked that door, that's quite a traumatic scene for child lmao
Happened to me
AH! WHAT!
HAHHAAHA dud, I thought it was normal???? Like catching your parents having sex when you were a child ;-;... Am I the uhm, the unusual one??
I was around 8??? And I caught my dad moving at the bed and called out to him... I won't go into details what they were doing, I haven't got any lessons about sex at that time but I knew it was sex. I straight up knew it was bad for me to see that and I ran to my friend's house shaking(and crying) and now I still haven't forgot that. But my relationship with my family are okay, we remain silent about that time ╮(￣▽￣)╭
On***** On the bed****
lmaooooooo I think it happened to many of us (catching your parents having sex). I mean, even I, caught my mother having sex with his bf of the time... I'm still wondering, why were they banging on the floor instead of on the bed which was literally next to them........ (well, I guess it's too much informations lmaoooo (￣∇￣")). I do not think that it is that traumatizing, it might be quite disturbing (especially if you don't realized what is happening), or quite shoking on the moment (if you actually know what is happening) but not traumatizing. But catching your parents having an intense and really hardcore bdsm play ?!?!!! And when you're a child ????? This is for sure traumatizing af, shoking, disturbing, horrifying, scary etc. Like, no child could know what is happening, so it litteraly looks like a torture scene. Even I, as a reader (and an sm lover hehe), I don't know if the dad actually enjoyed it or not (he really looked like he was in an intense pain and he was crying and was completely tied not able to move or say anything so...) ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Lmao I ship Taehoon with everyone (including myself)
I ship myself with taehoons biceps
Lmaooooo I ship my neck with his thighs
I've never really paid attention to his thighs but now that I think of it...he does have really nice legs
Ikrrrrr
I'll save some time for some of you = the author confirmed they were real brothers so if you don't like incest, it'd be better to stop nowヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Wut °Д°
Thanks for the heads-up though, i can now proceed to delete this from my list
ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
No problem
How could u marry someone after only 3 months ?!!!! They didn't even properly dated Σ(っ°Д °;)っ I shouldn't be this mad but C'MON that's so stupid and irresponsible. I know it's only fiction but this amount of stupidity and naivity triggers me way too much （/TДT)/
I suggest you don’t watch the kardashians I’m also mad
lmaoooooooo that's definitely something I would never watch haha, and I'm happy to know that I'm not the only one being mad ┗( T﹏T )┛
My parents got married 6 months into the relationship, and had me later that year (I was conceived before the marriage)... surprise surprise we’re a dysfunctional and toxic family and them staying together has done no one any good except for this pride
I shouldn't have laugh but I was caught off guards, I really thought that you were about to lecture me by saying that there were some exceptions such as your parents lmao...... Actually I'm not surprised at all about how it ended, if it had ended in a "best decision of all time with the happiest couple who will love each other forever and ever" I would have been so damn surprised and would have find it hard to believe. I'm so sorry about your situation and you definitely didn't deserved the consequences of their naiveness. And I don't know if saying this will make you feel better, but I really don't know many functional and healthy families.... (actually saying this make it even more sadder (￣∇￣")) Anyway, I feel you bro ┗( T﹏T )┛
Haha, I have a tendency to phrase things one way in the beginning and they mean another thing xD, a mini plot twist within every paragraph (English lit and language class has ruined me). But yeah, perfect families don’t really exist and everyone’s a bit dysfunctional, it’s just that’s most of the time a course of action is taken like divorce, but mine have decided to stay together despite being bad for each other. It’s just really draining and ty xD
lmaoo It might be because they're scared to be alone (well, it's just assumptions, but that's one of the main reasons why people in general stay in unhealthy relationships). People should learn to embrace loneliness before being in a relationship with someone, some people just need an affective dependence, so they'll accept anybody who's nice with them and once they realized that they weren't "the one", it's just too late because they're too used to each other and too dependent of their affection (even if it's minimal). Lmaooo look at me doing a tedtalk :')
I just discovered it and read everything in one go and DAMN THE CUTE CHUBBY GIRL IS MY FAVORITE I LOVE HER !!! I don't usually read het stories BUT THIS ONE, as a bisexual I'm totally head over heels ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
The MC is super lovable and respectful. I reaaaally love this webtoon. The only request I'd like would be to see at least one girl with really small boobies to be wrecked by the MC (definitely not saying this because I have mini boobies....hehe....(￣∇￣")) But still, it'd be good to see at least one girl with a really small breast. I mean, the coach has a rather small breast but it's still kinda big actually... The skinny girl with colored hair is the perfect example of smol tiddies. And I love her character btw (I don't understand why the coach thinks she's weird). Also, the coach is cute but she's too stiff (and maybe a bit close minded ?) for a sex coach... But I still like her, but I still want to see the MC with the other cute girl hehe (the one with gorgeous abs...ლ(´ڡ`ლ))
He's hot but a bit too much of a control freak
I Like to call them possesive creep but i guess control freak also works
Both is good but "possessive creep" is even more accurate (￣▽￣)
agree (o゜▽゜)o☆
I thought I was the only one who noticed it even tho it's super obvious lmao. Like... I feel like everyone see him as super hot and perfect... but... no ? I mean yeah he's really hot but not perfect ! He's a really a possessive creep and it's a bit of a turn off to be honest... But I have hopes for his character development so... yeah ╮(￣▽￣)╭
some times its done well but most of the time they just look like weirdos to me like how can someone get turned on like that (usually in the middle of a climax or sticky situation)
it's not like the uke like's the feeling of inferiority and being watched at least its never stayed out loud
i am talking about in general of this yaoi trope btw
I KNOW RIGHT !! I totally get your point of view, you're totally right. And I like character development if it's done well, I'm not talking about this yaoi, but many have really poor character development, like, the Seme abuses the Uke, then he says 'sorry actually I love u" and then they live happily ever after ? xD
lol yea I am just binjing some yaoi to see if there a yaoi were the uke doesn't take any of the seme's bs so far: *fail*(￢︿￢☆)i prefer a sad ending if you're gonna make me hate the seme
"I prefer a sad ending if you're gonna make me hate the seme" = THIS. ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
EXACTLY !!!! So many times, the Seme is just to much of an asshole and no character development can make me forget all the shit he has done.
they don't even try sometimes it's just on a whim or out of nowhere they "REALISED" what there doing is wrong it usually feels forced and just out of nowhere (ussally the frist break up scene or when the uke get hurt badly but its just straightthe seme fault) ||ヽ(*￣▽￣*)ノミ|Ю i kinda like the fact that we're having a conversation about one specific trop lol
OMG IKR!!!! People are happy because they finally have their happy ending, they're willing to forget all the abuse as long as they end up together in the end, not giving a damn if the relationship is toxic or not. Personally this type of trope makes me bitter. And, dare I say it... But it kinda feels like poor writing skills... If you portray the biggest asshole in the world and the only "character development" is him saying "I love you" as if having feelings could actually excuses the abuses and make me forget about a whole character's personality... I mean.... Sorry but not sorry : it is poor writing skills.. (this trope is so normalized in almost every yaoi but I feel like we're talking about one in particular lmao)
i think i used ikr too much but I KNOW FUCKIG RIGHT !!!! i mean if you're gonna spend all this time to portray him as an asshole then might as well finish as an asshole instead of what usually goes like this: uke gets hurt, BOOM tragic back story the "sorry, i love you" bim bada boom FORGIVEN
sometimes i enjoy the story like in "legs that won't walk" it has that trope but its more in shadows and its more like a slow burn rather than an impulsive realization
ya know this is why i don't like blood link it was early on but the trop is too prominent
all the depends on the execution ¯_(ツ)_/¯
DAMN EXACTLY! For example in Painter of the night, I really don't want to see the seme having a supposedly "character development" which would be just him saying "I love you actually". Just keep being an asshole instead of giving me a crappy "romance" based on abuses.
I don't know about legs that won't work, even if it's a slow burn it's still the same trope so... Not convinced haha! I don't really like when the love is "forced" (we can kinda see it in "Dear Benjamin" actually, but I still appreciate this yaoi) I didn't read blood link and thanks to you, I won't
yea just dont read blood link you're gonna frown for a whole week its so irritating especially the interaction between seme and uke and the repetitiveness of everything i dropped painter of the night because i found it to be too repetitive with the interaction and now that season 2 is out still the same thing its getting boring hope they actually have progress i still like legs that won't walk the seme is still redeemable in my eyes at least compared to other seme in this story "uhm uhm" i am looking at you insecret and caste heaven
welp i don't know how but it got from a classic yaoi trope to abusive and manipulative
I'd love to stop reading POTN but I'm too curious, I want to see how it'll end (even if I know that I'll ended up frustrated and annoyed as always haha).
DAMN, CASTE HEAVEN ihiyjfiyfgyi my biggest nightmare. I started to read yaoi in english thanks to this yaoi because I really liked it at first, I like the universe haha (so basically it's thanks to this yaoi that I have this level in english lol because I learned english with scans haha) but the story is the worse omg. The seme is so damn detestable and I feel like it's going to end up in a sort of love story ????? too much bullshit for me, I can't. Even my curiosity couldn't make me continue this yaoi :') I'm still grateful but damn I hate this yaoi so much （/TДT)/
curiosity is such a powerful weapon i have a love-hate relationship with caste heaven but i still want asuza to get a happy ending that why i am still reding at leats till updates in November I hope the both open their eyes i still want asuza to get some help and i hope he gets out of this toxic relationship and talks with his mother a lil
i was gonna copy past my analysis on caste heaven but i dont think you wanna hear it
I also want him to have an happy ending but I remember watching the latest chapters and I remember seeing some blush between Asuza and the other asshole so I guess they'll end up together... I want him to have a happy ending but not with his abuser...
To tell you the truth......I have totally read your long analysis haha ! (I feel like a psycho but I was just curious and I like to talk with you so... please don't be scared :')) It was really interesting, you're right about the fact that his character is the most realistic one, also even if the sadistic rapist feel guilty eventually (I hope he will) I would still be super annoyed if they end up together.
Also, I was relieved when you said that their "shipability" was 8/100 haha, I was so scared you were rooting for them (￣∇￣")
Lol I WOULD NEVER anyone would be better then karino expect for the teacher and that whore even the one who kiss up to him at first would be better than HIM
omg, i am so happy you read my analysis :D don't worry i don't really care ^^ tw yea same i would hope they take at least a break and there a time skip of them as adults where karino feel guilty but asuza be like "bitch, no" "..." "not after all that shit" at least that's my canon ending if they end up together i really hope the author wont do the classic ending it would be better if they just part ways like normal high school relationship ... nvm what i said THERE ANYTHING BUT NORMAL THESE TWO
i hope he takes care of his mother and get a normal job that the happy ending i want at least ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Some people are mad bc we're complaining and don't feel pity about the girl but lmao, she's was told it was dangerous and she didn't listen and so she hurt someone in the process. It was stupid of her to not listen to the adult and it has nothing to do with trauma or her background. Plus, she's a side character, I'm interested in "purple hair" and "buff puppy" so I really don't care about her story at all. All those kids could die from a mysterious sickness and I wouldn't give any shits at all . And it doesn't mean that I have no empathy for real children in real life so don't try to sermon me lmao. At the very least she'll not be as useless as I thought bc thanks to her, "buff puppy" will have to take care (and maybe carry) "purple hair" hehehehehe
She is sooooo annoying and becoz of her he is injured now
Ikrrrrr, so damn annoying!!! I was super mad at first but hear me out = big puppy who carry purple hair like a princess because he can't walk bc of his injuries
omg i feel the same, i made a topic saying i kinda hated the girl, and people just attacked me ahaha, some even blocked me
Same!!! I had to fight with multiple people to prove that complaining about a side character didn't mean that I was a heartless bitch who needs some therapy and would let a real kid die alone in the woods without compassion lmaoooo
Now that I think about it, I remember answering your comment and taking your side lmaooooo
I m heartless too
(same but shhhht
It's supposed to be a secret )
No worries, your secret is safe with me
omg it was you? ahahha wauw, well thank you for taking my side<3
ahg I voted for you by accident# －.－)