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yeah *sigh*

He wasn't tho? Her magic didn't work on him, he chose to do it cause he got all obsessed with our Darling, so don't excuse his actions. He got all obsessive on his own. He takes responsibility for what he's done, even the marques changed and her pink haired brother didn't get manipulated either, neither did the dad, Eclis too thought he could use Yvonne to bring her down, so she'd run away with him as a fugitive and he sacrificed his own people. He turned bad, by himself and his own choices.

But it did work to a degree WDYM?? It works on all of them up to a point she was aggravated because it didn't work exactly how she wanted it to but it still worked. He didn't make all the choices on his own he was manipulated into them. His obsession with Penelope is his own thing tho. Ntm she used the mirror shard on him multiple times while he was away from Penelope it's not hard to believe that the constant brainwashing made him worse

The thing is Penelope herself isn't a saint. She's not perfect, and she's pretty immoral at times too (consider how she was literally using Eclis the entire time she literally never loved him, she just wanted to leave the game. Not to mention how he was LITERALLY HER SLAVE and how she used that to her advantage instead of idk making the moral choice of not participating in slavery?!) but at the end of the day we for to understand her and her anyone because of how desperately she wants to leave the game

Wow that last sentence got fucked up but I meant "but at the end of the day we understand her actions because of how desperately she wants to leave the game"

For two seconds and then it broke, didn't you see how he choked her? Her spell broke right away even she was surprised, pinky bro also the spell broke right away, her shard isn't complete, he's done a terrible thing to her and all the poor people who trusted him, Eclis must pay.
Event the marquis who is close to Yvonne more than Penelope, even he didn't do it, so yeah Eclis has messed really badly, especially for someone whos so strong, he gave away his chance of healing his tribe and just running away normally with her just to break her. Obsession is bad. We see your point, it stands that even now he still is violent and he isn't being driven by any power, oh and it didn't work on Callisto either.

She wants to live, who wouldn't do that when she is literally trapped and everywhere are potential enemies, they can all hate her all of a sudden and k*** her since the normal route started, so yeah she's desperate, what do you mean she's not a Saint? So you want her to just take the abuse and accept her fate?? Of course she'll fight to survive, if anything she had been way too good to her abusers this whole time, good for her now fighting dirty too just like they did with her, Eclis has committed the ultimate betrayal of trust, he basically is trying to manipulate Penelope, into believing he's the only one for her, and she only went to him cause she believed he truly loved her too, of course she can't have the leisure to fall in love while she's literally in survival mode duh.
I forget sometimes that yall actually have led really nice lives where you have never been abused and you don't know how it easy when someone beats you black and blue, you bleed, and when they choke you as a child, or how it feels to fear to even sleep cause they might try to k*** you at any time, good for you I guess, but hey Penelope is a child of abuse, this is survival, and she'll live and thrive even, good for her!

Girl what r u on I was defending her I'm just saying her actions by itself are not defensible sometimes (keyword: SOMETIMES) but we understand her actions because we've seen her suffering and how desperately she wants to leave the game

Unless somehow u think slavery is defensible if you're a victim of abuse, in which case idk man I don't think we can have a conversation if that's the POV you're coming from, that's a morally indefensible position to me

You aren't traumatized, you're uncomfortable or upset. Stop using trauma as hyperbole.

Girl, chill

lmao

I'm not a girl and I am chill

Well idc what u r it's an expression

It's an expression that harms trauma survivors by hyperbolising their experiences which causes them to be taken less seriously when expressing they have serious trauma that, instead it's assumed they're being hyperbolic.

You.. spend wayyyy too much time on the internet huh?? Please get a grip is it NOT that serious

It's even worse to be executed from falsely murdering your abusive mother. Let her take "revenge"