Destiny_Evil's Topics (7)

The uke is 20 right now but he was still a child when the seme first started to literally take care of him and groom him. The second sentence of your comment is irrelevant to the story and to the topic of grooming because women choosing older men is different from children choosing older people because that older person groomed them.

The seme literally didn't have any feelings for the uke when the uke was still a child. Like the seme saiid, he felt sympathy and urge to take care or to take responsibility for the uke because of the situation. It isn't grooming if what he felt was just a sense of responsibility for the uke, and it isn't grooming if the seme did not have malicious intents/sexual fantasies towards the uke. When uke asked when did seme starts to think sexually of uke, he repiied that it was 1 year ago which is when the uke is 19 years old. For me, there isn't any grooming here, however, there is a pseudo-incest i'm not sure if that was the correct term but yeah there is a relationship between non-biological brothers 'cause I think uke was registered in their family registry causing him to also change his name.

If you find the manhwa disturbing, I suggest you drop it if you also thinks it affects or disturb your mental health. Everything is not for everyone, have a good day.

Also, it is fiction so if you're the type to view fiction as similar to reality. I suggest you do not read manhwas (Especially Yaoi) that gives off dark energy or read the description first and see if it suits your taste.

No, I don't see fiction as reality nor was I disturbed by the story since there are worse out there. I simply stated why people are saying it's grooming since the OP questioned it.

Nowhere in my comment did I say I dislike it, it disturbs me, or it affects me negatively, I don't know where you got that from.

That's why I included "if" because I'm not sure what you're really feeling about the manhwa. We are communicating through commenting/texting so we won't be able to fully express what we feel about a certain thing. I used "if" in respect to your feelings as to not directly accuse you of something that I am not sure of.

I must have misunderstood your message, my apologies. I thought you yourself was saying that the seme "groomed" (like from the word grooming, where the person makes bonds with a child with the intention of manipulating, abuse, or worse sexually abuse them) the uke. Which in fact he didn't really do "grooming".

Reminds me of the 40 year old granny from tiktok and her idk baby husband lol

Porn addiction isn't smth to be proudly announcing to the whole world there's a shounen-ai tag the size of your head if you bothered to read nd stoped being a freak instead

Well there is NOT shonen ai tag, it's tagged as yaoi so.. I also thought that it will containe some smexy scenes (at least as a bonus) but it was wholesome so I guess it was a win situation.

The first upload have shounen ai tag either way obsessing over sex in Everything and anything is porn addiction whoever read this manga and still thinks "okey and?!! Where's the sex" should go out to touch some grass this is why everyone out there thinks all ppl who read bl are freaks

Tbf I agree with the OP in that I do think it ended abruptly. I would've liked to see them have more cute dates. It sucks this authors pretty much only writes in one shots and short series... It would've been amazing to have more ch :(

Mommy chill haha

the tag is yaoi. it's none of your business that OP expected more. you're much more of a freak for taking this so seriously. stop lecturing people & instead take your own advise to touch some grass.

Exactly! Why can't people mind their own business and have the urge to lecture them..

Because it's weird honestly they're literally still in high school

op asking where the sex at isnt weird because the tag is literally yaoi.

a lot of yaoi takes place in high school, but the ethics of that is another conversation.

if you're going there, you're also weird for reading about high schoolers fucking. hypocrite lol

how am a hypocrite? you just be throwing around words lol
i didnt even read this manga...
i came to check out the comment section to see if its worth a read.
i have actual taste and standards when it comes to what i read...imagine that.

so you've NEVER read any manga about high schoolers fucking? none? & none that your tastes & standards liked? school settings are literally the majority of yaoi plot lines. you are a hypocrite lmao

wait... why did you even reply tho lmao. my comment wasn't intended for you but @kocho

yeah, i made a mistake...sometimes comments here get confusing so i apologize for the mix up.
but ill answer your other comment (that was directed at me)

yes, there are a lot of yaoi under a school setting, but its far from being majority, there are so many other tropes.
if i want to read a bl high school romance, ill look for a shounen-ai (plenty of those out there)

i dont read yaoi and BL in general very often relatively speaking (the BL list that i made on here is less than 100 stories long and this is the only place i read BL), but when i do, it needs to be well written just like everything els that i read.
never have i come across a high school yaoi where minors fucking is justified to the plot rather than being glorified.

there is only one exception- MADK.
its nothing like all those trashy shallow high school yaois that glorify minors having sex...
at the end of the first chapter the mc isnt even a human anymore.
this story just needs the mc to be an eccentric high schooler at the start in order to convey the type of person he is and show what he will grow into be.
its one of the weirdest yet most powerful stories i ever read.
it falls under the horror genre, so its not for everyone, but its incredibly well written and creative.
its a about the loneliness of power/influence and the desire for validation, acknowledgment and companionship.

yeah, i should've made sure before replying as well. i apologize for calling you a hypocrite the 2nd time. i think it was too strong of a word & uncalled for. i see your point as relatable bc one of my all time favs is "Love Nest" that's centered around a salaryman finding love in the most unimaginable way & taking responsibility for his past actions. it's a pretty stereotypical premise but well-executed. the characters learning vulnerability & honesty is what i felt as empowering.

i want to clarify my statement regarding majority of yaois being under school settings. there are definitely various tropes, but i find that the most popular & viewed yaois are set in schools. we see a lot of it in anime as well, but that's a whole nother conversation lol. i don't see it as glorifying minors fucking per se, but rather plausible. i personally saw my fair share of schoolmates experimenting with sex & in a sense, i find it realistic. but it is overly used & it's getting to the point where minors having sex is the whole plot. to add on to this, my biggest ick is when they throw in rape for the sake of "plot" & justify it as a redemption arc for future character development lol. there's no resistance (a lot of times), reflection, apologies, nor trauma, BUT there's the infamous "you were begging for it" line. shallow garbage truly.

i completely agree that MADK is one of the best, well written/drawn stories out there. it seems almost offensive to label it as simply immoral and horrific lol. i wasn't prepared when it ended but nonetheless, very impactful. sorry this got really long lol

Bro I'm not? Wth

a large majority of popular yaoi is not in a high school setting, i dont get why you are under the impression that it is.
if you literally go to the yaoi section here and sort it by popularity or by views there are maybe like 5 or 6 yaoi on the first two pages combined that are high school.


in real life it is normal and natural for high schoolers to "experiment" and the like, but you need to think in the context of porn. pornorgraphic content and erotica is targeted at adults, a lot of adults read or watch porn and get aroused by it, so the depiction of minors in porn just doesnt sit right with me. like if we are being real the purpose of high schoolers in porn 99% of the time is "high schoolers fucking is hot" and not "beautiful realistic coming of age story"

now in regards to anime...i frankly dont understand why you even brought that up.
like yes high school setting (or age) is very common for characters in anime, but anime is GENERALLY not pornographic outside of hentai and the like.


and you mentioned rape, for me its more than an "ick".
i will not read a story that romanticizes or downplays rape, like its a total deal breaker for me.
i have no problem with stories that deal dark subjects or heavy topics...when its done right.

this also got pretty long lol

You sound so holier than thou. What the hell is with your “I’m better than you” attitude? This isn’t your target audience, and you decide to go into the comments section and shame the people who enjoyed this story. My issue with you is that all you needed to say was, “it doesn’t always need porn to be good,” but you came in hot and blazing and told somebody they were a porn addict. You know, on a site that has a lot of it AND on a manga that is tagged yaoi. I’m also pretty sure they were just making a joke, I doubt anybody is like that in real life. Lol

i didnt shame anyone for liking this story nor did i call anyone a porn addict.

i clicked on this story because i do read yaoi occasionally (you can check my account and see that) and i went to the comments here to judge if its worth my time, then i saw this whole discourse and gave my two cents.
why would i say “it doesn’t always need porn to be good,” when that isnt what this is about.
the issue isnt porn itself, its high schoolers aka minors in porn.

also im not sure who you think made a joke or what the joke even was.

Okay, I’ll admit, I might’ve gotten the wrong person (I hate the way things are formatted, sorry). But even then, this manga doesn’t strike me as sexualizing teenagers. They decided to wait. It actually does feel like a coming of age kind of thing. It was a little necessary to have them be high schoolers because the whole plot was this girl rejecting the MC for not being ready for sex, which is canonically uncalled for since they’re were barely high schoolers.

And honestly, you still have a holier than thou attitude. Idk

i think you misunderstand the situation.
op asked why there is no sex in this manga since it has a yaoi tag (yaoi means there will be smut), someone els said op was weird for wanting that since this manga is about high schoolers.
one thing lead to another and the topic of high schoolers in porn was brought up. (there are a lot of other high school bls with a yaoi tag that actually are full of porn and smut)

if you think i have a holier than thou attitude, then maybe you just feel called out personally for some reason. idk
i take my reading quite seriously and im very picky, but thats me.
i promise you, i really dont care about what you personally enjoy and you shouldn't care if i, a stranger, think what you enjoy is not of utmost quality literature.

Lol calm dowm... Why is everyone getting so heated!

haha, uploader here - gotta say this is some crazy drama ;; let's calm down! just enjoy the story and i gotta say thanks for entertaining me

no fr, like this some twitter level drama lol

side not- if youre an uploader, how does one upload on this site, like im just curious

REAL

Yes. I just can't hold my anger.
Ivan... （/TДT)/