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I honestly can appreciate Taku as a fictional character because I do find him interesting and layered. But I am TIRED of ppl claiming he was incredibly sincere and cared about Haesoo so much. Idk if some of y’all skipped these parts, or chose to ignore it... but pls do see the following examples of Taku's manipulative and selfish behavior, and taking advantage of Haesoo:

Exhibit 1 - He wanted to use his sex tape to guilt trip Haesoo in their relationship. He said: “I hoped that guilt would bring you to me”. It only didn't happen cause Haesoo turned down publishing the sex tape. It was not that Taku backed away and stopped himself because he realized how fcked up his actions were. It made Haesoo uncomfortable and weirded out too,, pretty sure this can count as sexual/workplace harassment lmao

Exhibit 2 - In chapter 96’s flashback Taku says "i just want to read the story he writes about me when i'm gone” (his friend calls him an asshole too lol). This is a throwback to Leo telling Joowon over the phone about how Taku uses his models for his work, and then tosses them aside with little regard. He was planning the same with Haesoo, until he later got “attached”. that’s karma ig~

Exhibit 3 - Haesoo expressed that he was unsure/not ready for a relationship. Yet literally RIGHT AFTER his quasi breakup with Joowon, Taku is pressuring him like, "I'm still waiting for an answer". It's weird cause Haesoo's wounds are fresh from his breakup, and Taku is NOT stupid. He knew this and persisted. Haesoo shouldn't have agreed and that's his own fault (HS is not entirely a victim here lets make that clear). Meanwhile Taku? He was flat out taking advantage of Haesoo's broken emotions.

Exhibit 4 - Quote: “It must have been painful for him no doubt, but I still wanted to see more". This was Taku's thought during a photoshoot with Haesoo, which later made Haesoo cry at the exhibition (Chapter 92/93). Taku told Haesoo: "think about having sex with someone you love, but you can never see them again". This was RIGHT AFTER Joowon and Haesoo's big separation. To inflict emotional pain in your partner, and then say you were interested in seeing more? Bruh no… just no.

Exhibit 5 - Quotes: “Every time I saw how sad you were, it felt good.” “You were lonely. You need me because of your unhappiness.” —Chapter 58. This is from Taku's monologue of how Haesoo’s unhappiness made him feel good, because he felt depended on by Haesoo for comfort // hs get away from this man pls haha

Exhibit 6 - Another quote: “If I can’t beat him [jw] one-on-one, then I at least want you [hs] to feel bad” —Chapter 66 ...Can Taku stop wishing for Haesoo depression, like he's already sad jfc

Exhibit 7 - "I want to bury inside the void he [jw] left in you. And later I'll push him aside however I can." ...honestly this quote struck me as Taku taking advantage of Haesoo's heartbreak and being hella 'opportunistic' (btw: Taku called HIMSELF that in his interview in chapter 5 so I mean... lol). Maybe that's just me though idk.

Exhibit 8 - In Chapter 84 when Joowon's scandal broke out, notice how Taku starts texting "are you okay?" to Haesoo, then deletes it and instead tells him to stop caring about Joowon? This moment said a lot to me, because it's the fact that Taku is SO AWARE of how Haesoo must be feeling, but he purposely chooses to ignore that and cares more about winning and keeping him away from Joowon. Kinda struck me as the opposite from Joowon's phone call after Haesoo's modelling news dropped in chapter 68. JW asked Haesoo to not do the exhibition because he knew its not what HS wanted (he is right: haesoo always wanted to be known for his writing not his face, and felt crappy abt it all day). But when Haesoo said he was fine, JW told him he'll always be on Haesoo's side even as a hyung/friend. He made it so clear how he cares the most about HS simply being okay, even after Haesoo left him.

Exhibit 9 - Taku tells Haesoo he hopes he has a hard time with Joowon after their breakup (Chapter 99). It felt wrong to me cause Haesoo genuinely apologized and gently let him down in their breakup... but Taku tries to make Haesoo feel worse. I honestly understand being spiteful towards exes who mistreated you in some way. HOWEVER with this relationship: it seemed to highlight Taku’s selfishness. Taku is out here acting like Haesoo wronged him for simply not liking him back in a 1 month TRIAL relationship. As if he wasnt the one who initiated and *insisted* on their relationship. As if he was unaware of Haesoo’s feelings for Joowon. As if Taku didnt say it was better that they use each other. Him wanting to make Haesoo feel bad over this is wild considering all the conditions of their relationship and his past manipulation too.
((Also, Taku in this scene to Haesoo: “Sorry I told you I'm not a good person” … Like sir, if you know you’re not a good person, THEN FIX IT. Joowon spent almost 40 chapters self-reflecting n trying to correct the mistakes he made, when he never *intentionally* wanted to hurt Haesoo lol. Meanwhile some Taku fans: “omg he’s a good person that was wronged. haesoo never deserved him!” lmaooo))

///end of examples

Anyway I’m gonna have to start sending this to some of y’all who selectively read Taku’s character to all hell. He was really manipulative with Haesoo and had some bad intentions. And when Taku grew to stop being a robot and showed “real feelings” getting all attached to Haesoo and liking him more than he expected, he was STILL selfish and wanted Haesoo to suffer for him. He didn’t get enough development to stray away from that, but imo that’s exactly why he’s the second lead
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anyone have the raws?

Are kinda depressing. Is there a lot of toxicity, harassment, and abuse in this story? Yes.

Should we care? Um, not really. The function of a morally fucked up smut story is to satisfy fantasies that cannot and should not be enacted in real life. As long as you aren’t taking manga of all things as a guideline to how you live life, it’s all just for fun. That’s like saying violent video games make you violent lol.

The personalities on some of these characters are downright scummy, but that sets up some really hot smut. I love literally every aspect of this story, even our bad guys: Doona and Minho (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Does anyone have raws for this? Thank you in advance!

DID YOU KNOW?
blue whale's anus can stretch approximately
three and a half feet making it second biggest asshole after red hair guy (gold digger)

All the complaining is really annoying and it’s over nothing. Dude this is literally bdsm hentai. And tbh it’s not even hardcore. Y’all should never see what people are into on nhentai then cuz ur little heads are gonna explode.

Also yeah, this is on there and people do masterbate and try to simulate it in real life, in a consensual way. It’s called non con bdsm, if you’re into it, you include it in the contracts when you’re negotiating with your partner.

I hate it when there’s rape and people won’t just grow up and realize that it’s a fetish and maybe just one that they aren’t into. Which is fine, you don’t have to like this. But this is fiction, it has no responsibility to teach people. It’s literally just entertainment. I myself am really big on consent and enthusiastic consent in real life, but this is fictional porn. If you don’t like it, don’t kink shame. Once again, people can be into this and simulate it in real life in a healthy consensual way in a bdsm relationship with good terms and safe words. This isn’t a “fudjoshi” thing, because straight people like it too, and it’s expressed in straight hentai too. Stop shaming people and grow up and learn to respect other people’s preferences because they aren’t doing anything wrong.

This doesn’t teach people to rape, and it doesn’t spread or make more rapists. Instead what it does is it can help make someone realize that they have this fetish, which would then prompt them to look for a healthy bdsm relationship. That’s it. It’s completely consensual, and there’s nothing wrong with it.

Some fujoshis are hypocrites here they hate this because it is not BL and its rapey but when in BL you fuckin love it? No I am not saying you have to like the rape here.. that is so bad in general no matter who does it to who and even if it is *just* a fantasy or fictional it is still bad... I am just saying some of you are a bunch of hypocrites

The trope a mature person becomes a parent figure to a child that eventually will fall in love as an adult with his/her caretaker...
So the MC basically raise a child that will marry them... I don't know about that...(⊙…⊙)
Who in its right mind wants to make love with his own adoptive/foster parents???

Another example from the past: Usagi Drop and Hana To Akuma...

Wait- just when I thought I would actually like Taku’s character, turns out he wishes unhappiness for Haesoo instead in the future? First up, he was the one who kept pushing himself to be with Haesoo and kept manipulating him to be with him. Haesoo has already said from the start that he didn’t want to start a relationship with him. Now right when the one month “trial relationship” is up, he’s blaming Haesoo for his decision like wtaf?? You said it yourself that if it didn’t work out, you’ll just break up with him. Why is he acting as if it’s all Haesoo’s fault? I thought his character would be redeemed but now I don’t actually wish for his happiness. I am disappointed. His character didn’t progress, he just poured out all his frustrations on him them went “oh- it really didn’t work out for me” and moved on. He already knew how much baggage Haesoo had yet it was HIS CHOICE to continue the pursuit wow

“I am not a good person”
Well damn shit you’re right :) you should’ve let go from the beginning dude

Going on tiktok/twitter makes me realize that a lot of Taku stans are minors and they honestly just dont seem mature enough to understand the story. They really view Loh as "haesoo = victim, joowon = perpetrator, taku = haesoo's saviour", which is possibly the furthest thing this story could ever be.

And I dont mean you can't be mature AND support Taku/Taehae. But a mature reader would realize that Taku was selfish, and used manipulative tactics to get Haesoo. So yes: you can still like Taku's character, since all Loh characters have their flaws. But also understand that he wasn't any "saviour" for Haesoo. What a joke. The relationship between him and Haesoo wasn't healthy, as it was based on them using each other. In contrast, Joowon and Haesoo's unhealthy relationship is not about abuser and victim lol. It's about a pair broken through familial/societal pressures and miscommunication (eg. Haesoo not realizing that Joowon said "dont fall for me", not because he doesnt love Haesoo. But because he's scared that they'll be separated if they define their relationship // Meanwhile Joowon not realizing that it wasnt Haesoo's CHOICE to abandon him). And the development in this story does not involve "escaping" the relationship. It's about the characters being brave enough to FIX their relationship, and face their fears to admit their feelings for someone they genuinely love.

The immature taku/taehae stans also see the stepbrother issue in black and white, and completely ignore all the CONTEXT this story gives: about how how Haesoo and Joowon are literally two strangers with no biological relation, forced to live in under the same roof by their parents at age 16 (something they never wanted). They live together for barely 3 years and develop zero sibling bond or connection, but liked each other romantically close to the start. They met up years later after the divorce, and at this point in the story it's been over 8+ years of them being completely unrelated, not even a paper to say theyre "siblings". Like I dont know why these kids reading Loh refuse to understand that this is a morally grey situation and that Joohae's relationship is understandable in many ways despite hints of taboo lol