I'd have rathered a bigger time lapse until next the chapter so I can understand what they say... I don't know if it was Google translate or Tarzan talk...
agreed...it hurts to read at this point :/
same thoughts, i'll prolly stop reading/drop this :< what a shame it was actually good :<
I'm a bit uncomfortable with this being described as a perfect BDSM relationship...
A sub should always have a way to safeword out of it, but when he's gaged. He doesn't have any alternative sign to stop it, for one. And a top shouldn't bring personal grudges into a scene...
In here the sub is ok with it, but it pushes the limits of "safe, sane and consensual". I've not seen the limits being discussed before starting to scene together either... There's no need for an actual formal contract, but discussing limits, likes and dislikes whould be important in a BDSM relationship, as both parties are trusting each other to a really big degree.
So yeah, it's not a BAD dom, but he's not exactly perfect... And that's with this one, his last sub he just kicked out without even aftercare, if you'll remember...
I'm enjoying it anyway, and yeah, he cares and is for sure better than the guys ChanWoo seems to usually pick up... But those details lowkey worry me.
how so?
accidentally disliked..
I'm not exactly uncomfortable with it but but i agree with the safeword part.
I read through your post but usually, in these type of long time relationships limits are discussed in many occasions, also we probably don’t see limit negotiations and safe word discussions since (my guess) author sees it to be boring.
Also, I have to disagree that he can’t safe word when he is gagged, only his wrists are bound so he can signal with his hand. I’m not trying to make it seem perfect, cause nothing is perfect otherwise safe words won’t exist, but from personal experience, I met people who prefered being unable to even move an inch of their bodies or signal. BDSM also has its levels.
I agree that he was a douche to that guy, he said that his cumming face looked ugly -damn-
Safe words can be non-verbal for gagged play like this ie hand/finger gestures, grunting in a specific manner, clickers/bells etc. The issue is we don't know what their setup is for these types of play, so I'll hold my opinions till after the scene.
I do agree re keeping his personal grudges out of play, although knowing this manwha, it'll probably be used as a catalyst to get the plot moving.
"Safewords" not always need to be words. Like he has his hands tied but he can stretch his arms or move his hands and do gestures (this is something previously agreed by both parties)
And usually doms are aware if their subs make those signals. In normal play subs don't usually need to do those signals either since the doms already know about the subs' limits...
Buuuuut, I agree with you that MD shouldn't bring personal matters into their play ┗( T﹏T )┛
I didn't explain myself well about the safeword, I know there are many other ways to signal it, I just missed some kind of conversation at least about how they mark their limits, because this is the kind of things that when lacking in a story leads people who don't know much about BDSM to think that anything is valid during a scene. I'd just like to see them discussing it, because otherwise I just need to assume that they have limits, and there's always the doubt. I like to think the best scenerio, but that could be not the case. I guess the author did think it would be boring while I find it one of the best parts to build trust upon, but then again that's a matter of preference.
The personal matters influencing the scene actually worried me most because I see it coming. Well, it's a plot device I guess, if the relationship didn't have problems from the start keeping it interesting would be hard on any author.
Thank you all for answering, it's really nice to have people to discuss things like this, I've met people who directly shut down this line of speaking by saying that it's a fantasy and shouldn't be taken seriously, while I'm a reader who enjoys reading into the details (wich doesn't mean not enjoying it) :)
A self-correct, I meant to say "dom" when I wrote "top", it bothered me so just correcting it while I'm at it.
Anyone else noticed the line through R!Ciel's eyelids? Is it part of the eye-art or are they scars? It's niggling me a little, because it would imply that R!Ciel's body is patched up with hidden scars all over, apart from those black veins. Talk about body horror.
Well, Not-Ciel did turn his organs into salad looking for that ring, but I don't remember anything happening to his eyes.
But when undertakers prepare the body for the burial they usually tamper with it, closing their eyes can sometimes become a problem and they have to modify them a little I think... Not everything can be fixed up with make up and when the coffin is open they try to make them look peaceful. Not that I'm an expert, so I could be wrong... The first zombie we meet, for example, the girl at the Campania, had stitches all over, because her body had been left all mangled and they tried to make it look nicer so it wouldn't be so painful to watch (for one) and so she could... mm... function (for another, or so I assume.
AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So... They die? And that's that? I'm... kinda unsatified... It seems like an easy ending instead of closing a circle or something similar. I enjoyed the journey, so I don't regret reading it, but I have this little feeling of unfulfillment. There are so many characters, that I can't really feel it like an ending for all of them. Poor Frankie is left behind after everything he did to build a safe and happy place for Rai, who could only only enjoy it for... What? A few months?
Also... What about M-21? His whole story had this background question, it was important to him to find out who he was before he became a test subject. Rai and Frankenstein promised him that they would find out. Yeah, Crombel is dead, but I still have no sense of closure for him.
I'm so very sad right now... ╥﹏╥
Could someone make a guess about how long will Whole Cake Island arc take to end? Not because I don't like... But because I'm waiting so I can read it all together in one setting (chapter by chapter is torture) and I'm eager for the day I can. So, what do you guys think? Since you are up to date, how many chapters (roughly) do you think are left? Please?
I'd say it could still take roughly 15 chapters.
I can't be completely happy about this... Because then it means that he worked alongside the monster who got Han Siwon gang-raped. What kind of justice will be that? Only one of the two big ones behind it will pay, and it will be the pathetic one... The other one not only gets away with rape and assault, he even gets a good laugh with it.
Because the person he loves LIVES with that monster (Jiwook) and can't avoid him, plus Jiwook was the one manipulating Joohoon to do evil, too. In other words, Joohoon doesn't give a shit about Siwon, but Jiwook will never stop making Siwon's life miserable. The one that needs to be neutralized is the one in proximity to the victim and the one keeping the abuse ball rolling. Priorities.
Siwoon can always find a way to get Joohoon...later, maybe But remember, Siwoon is no angel, either. He saw the tape of Siwon getting raped and didn't give a crap. He only cared when it was TAEMIN as Siwon being hurt. He has no interest in avenging Siwon (real one). He wants to protect and avenge Taemin/Siwon.
I was hoping for more chapters where we see Taemin happy and Joohoon pay a price and Jiwook go to fricken hell and scream forever.
Everyone saying that how can Taemin not go completely back to Siwoon... And keep forgeting that Siwoon is the one who left him with no explanation after Taemin got beaten protecting him. I understand that Siwoon wanted to becoma stronger so Taemin wouldn't have to protect him and be the one to protect instead, but Taemin has never known, he only knows that one day, after being beaten, his only friend left him alone.
Because one member (or a few of them) of a species kills your daughter, the obvious answer is destroying the whole race, including all innocents, innocent daughters included. Yeah. Sure. Everything is justified. And of course killing the one person you consider your friend (you love Garda, no matter in what sense, she gave you everything, but Rai is your ONLY friend, ah?) because he tries to reason with you and save you from yourself.
I lost all respect for him seeing his temper tantrum, no matter how much he suffers... A pity, because when he behaves normally he can be so cute and cool...
Rai should have said "If a werewolf had killed my father, should I have declared war on the entire werewolf race?" But of course, Raizel is a man of few words.
I agree that Il was a terrible king, but aren't we all ignoring the fact that YuHon was planning to... You know... Invade all other kingdoms (the whole CONTINENT) to build an empire? Take his whole country to an unnecesary war for the sake of country expansion? The country suffered under Il, but with this new info I'm beginning to see it as the lesser evil...
War is a terrible thing, for both the attacking and the attacked kingdom's people. It brings death, illness and starvation for both parties. Remember YoHon's actions during the war with Kouren's kingdom (can't remember the name now)? He was cruel with men, women and children and didn't even want to reach a peaceful agreement. Not to mention that he annihilates anyone he dislikes, even innocent children from a peaceful temple or other countries (And as his wife noted, he did kill the queen, out of prejudices only, guess he thought Il and his wife were separate matters, as Soo Won thinks of Il and Yona, which is quite sacry because he doesn't care about the feelings of even the people he supposedly loves).
King Il was terrible as a king, but I tremble just thinking of what YuHon would have been like. King Il was terrible, but I think he avoided doing things to wait for the "legit" governor Hiryuu that was his daughter (Wrong? Yes, but I still think he was just waiting and expected Hiryuu to solve the problems later).
Soo Won has his father's worst traits, I'm afraid... And like Yona said, he can't be a good king while negating all the wrongs his father committed. Yona had to face her own father's mistakes, but Soo Won refuses to do so with his own's. He even seems to be planning to invade like his father... Kouren barely made it thanks to Yona.
Do you remember that so wons father said that he would follow his younger brother and protect the kingdom for him.... His plans were to expand when he thought he was going to be a king later on he just wanted his brother to start ruling rather than praying
we have the same idea of King Il being not really a king but just a temporary king to be replaced by Yona later on. and also maybe King Il all do is wait for the true king to arrive and Yu-Hon hated it but at the end of the day King Il is right about Yona.
But why kill Kashi??? He def have plans because he wants the threat out of the way. Didnt he say that Kashi is fooling him or something? Even if he wants to just support his brother, sooner or later he'll change his mind and want the throne back since King Il is not a good ruler