Hahaaha! I've been saying! The seme had been down bad for the uke since day one. He never got over him 'leaving' him even thought it was his fault for not taking their relationship seriously. He's been in denial about how much he actually likes the uke. Fortunately for the seme, he has a second chance to make amends and win him back though.
Best friend should've shooted his shot back then. The uke's mated to a super alpha with a baby. The uke's literally physically and emotionally(ya hate to admit it but he likes his alpha and never got over him) not available.
From what I've gathered it's a happy ending lmfao. Keeping with the stories theme, they obviously both have issues but manage to find their happily ever with each other in the end, lol.
Do you know how many chapters until the end ?
it's based off a novel so no clue as I doubt the mangaka is following it exactly.
I'm sure if the novel had a happy ending, this Manhwa will keep that and only roughly summarize the bits in between as novel adaptations tend to do.
yeah so the uke never stood a chance. the seme was always obsessed with him but as the author hinted he's a bit psychotic and prob a bit on the spectrum too so no self-awareness lol. poor uke lol, he has no idea just how deep (and scary) the semes feelings for him really are.
What’s really creepy is the opposite behaviour to his persisting homophobic vibe , it’s very disturbing. And when they slept together it came across also somehow demeaning or sthg, very strange
I'm actually glad the author didn't just queer-bait and decided to make them canon. I appreciate how she sprinkled some realistic concept in there too. They are only teenagers and romantic love is a new emotion for them. They found it fast and with each other no less. And I appreciate how careful and cautious they are being about it, but also know that they want to explore it further with each other. Their future seems hopeful. Also it's hard to imagine them not together forever, they're practically attached at the hip lol.
The main story is done but there are side-stories I think the author just whips up when she feels like it. I hope they eventually get translated too! hehe.
bi-sexuality exist yall lol. sen probably did have a crush on touma back then. he most likely just moved on because he didn't think they were possible.
The alpha genes are REALLY strong here lmfaooo.
Grandpapi is hotttt.
yezzzz I'm like....sir if u need a dog i can bark
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Oml
The angst before the storm before the rainbow lol.
We all know Jaekyung is going to keep the keychain lol.
I've been saying, he's always liked the uke. probably would've keep their 'relationship' going in college had the uke not wanted to end it. it's also been hinted throughout the story how the seme was lowkey bothered by their breakup too. now that they're mated with a baby, the seme's pretty much not going to hold back anymore.
Question though is this. They didn't get into a FWB relationship til about 6 mo. But then the school year (typically) ends in 9 months. So they would have only had a total of 3 mo. Anyways. Student VISA expires and he would have to go home anyways...
the seme easily had the means to keep in touch with the uke. like a long-distance fwb thing going. he just never needed a reason to go back to korea until the uke showed up basically.
Actually he ended it because he didn't want a relationship.
Hypothetically, if Noah had never had the kid, who is sick and needed medical care, would DoYoon have come back to Korea at all?!? If the child hadn't been sick and needed meds, Noah wouldn't have been on his radar at all. The man took five years to go to Korea when he could have easily done so any time of the week.
Look it's established that the seme has commitment issues because of his mother leaving. I stand by he's always liked the uke, gave him everything BUT the commitment part. He was fine with their status quo and we were given no indication that the seme wanted to stop it anytime soon until the uke asked about their status. Again because of his trauma, it's why he couldn't commit and let the uke go. And it's also pretty obvious that the uke leaving AFFECTED the seme given how bitter he is whenever he talks about their past. The seme would've continued to live his life with his trauma and never not being able to love anyone. Down the line, maybe he'd have realize the uke was 'the one that got away.' But this is a bl novel baby, and now he gets a second chance at making amends with the only person that lowkey has ever affected him. Because I've argued that the seme has always liked the uke, you can also hypothetically say if it weren't for the seme's trauma, they would've been in a serious relationship already back in college.
What I'm saying is that the relationship they had was tenuous at best. Since YeJun wanted more he broke it off. But without the presence of the baby to alert him that he could have had a child with Noah and that Noah is his mate there's laugh chance he would never have gone looking for him. Maybe he lived him, maybe he didn't.
I got the part about his abandonment issue. But I don't agree that Noah was the one that called it off. Ian would have only continued the FWB situation with Noah had Noah allowed that, even if he had gone back to Korea. Noah hadn't called it off, he had simply stopped responding to the conditions set.
Ofc he wouldn't have wanted the FWB relationship to end because that was what he is comfortable with. If Noah had allowed it it would have kept on going and Noah would still be on the losing end. So yes, by that statement that if Noah had allowed it then yes. Ofc. That's the area that's good for him, but not for Noah. So even if he wishes to be can't do it.
He's bittee because he had let Noah go, but Noah still came back to him and they ended up being bonded. Idk. Commitment or not he's a cruel person. (The way he's treating Noah now.)
While, as you say, he likes Noah, but it's not to keeping him hanging onto him, with hope, so yes, he ended it. But no, he didn't come back til he found out they had a kid together. If he hadn't found out, or if the kid hadn't been sick, he would NEVER have come looking for Noah. He didn't like him enough for that. He could come back and just work his way thru and just be FWB again if he likes Noah THAT much. But no, and then he just goes and uses his Pheromones on him. Great. Idk what kind of liking that is.
Since coming back to Korea, they haven't had a date or anything. Haven't seen them have dinner together or anything. Wdym he's giving Noah everything?!? He took away Noah's job and binded him via his child, his pheromones, and force. He hasn't given Noah anything. Not an ounce of love. Even if he likes him there's been nothing but sex. The ONLY time we have seen them eating together is at Grampa's place.
Only the uke was insecure about their relationship in college, but they were still pretty much dating exclusively JUST without the committal part. and yes, it's been established that the uke broke it off. And if you want to get technical, the seme literally gave him the DECISION to either continue as they were or break it off. It was the uke's decision! and his unresponsiveness to the seme was the answer!!!! clear as day in the manga panel?????? BUT had the uke been fine with their relationship as it was, the seme obviously would've been content and probably continued to keep it going outside of college. like i said he had the means and a reason to fly to Korea to see the uke should he'd have wanted to if they didn't break it off in COLLEGE.
And of course the seme was never going to go looking for the uke without the kid because the seme had ISSUES! He kept everyone at an arms length because of his abandonment trauma. That doesn't diminish the fact that the seme really always liked the uke as the author has hinted throughout the manga. The seme obviously just couldn't or wouldn't acknowledge it, or explore it any further back then because of his trauma.
And I'm sure you're aware that this is a classic toxic bl seme we have here. He's going to treat the uke like shit until he gets his shit together and the uke tries to leave or something, then he'll realize his mistake and start chasing after him, literally and/or figuratively. This is nothing new??? (that's why I do not understand all the recycled groaning comments about this manga) At least with this seme, he's able to admit early on that he's actually obsessed with the uke after all.
Also, sick kid or not he would've still came looking for the child and the uke. The kid being ill is just an extra bonus to tether the uke to the seme even more.
and I meant when the were dating in college, the seme gave the uke everything as in all the criteria's that would fit a classic relationship BUT the commitment part.
to summarize. the seme couldn't go further with his relationship with the uke because of his past trauma. when the uke realized he wanted more, given the ultimatum by the seme, the uke made the decision to end it. The seme of course wouldn't have gone looking for the uke without the child. He would've continued on with his life living a hollow existence, keeping everybody at arms length. The uke, idk prob would've been with the best friend or something. End of this manga story if it happened that way.
The accidental bond and child now gives the seme a second chance with the uke. Through this second phase, we are given more insights to the semes thoughts and feelings about the uke and how much he actually liked him to present. we are seeing the seme process his feelings for the uke. he's treating him like shit because he thinks the uke abandoned him and all these other excuses. but nevertheless it's pretty obvious that he has always liked the uke. you're focused on how much he likes the uke and why he didn't try to search for him sooner, when I've said again the seme with his issues wasn't able too or refused to process those feelings in their early days. He wasn't able to fully grasp how intense his feelings for the uke actually until he saw him again obviously, and the bond only helped amplified it more.
I just meant that if the kid hadn't been sick, he wouldn't have been registered into the pharmaceutical system. His being sick was what had generated the impetus for going back to Korea. So even if he had likes him, it wasn't enough to keep him. I know that by being non-respsonsive to the question of "should we stop this" equals a yes, but they weren't dating. They can be said to be exclusive Fuck buddies. Sure. Because when YeJun asked DoYoon if they were dating and he completely scoffed at it. If he had never asked, it still wouldn't be anything more than a FWB relationship. It is YeJun's insecurities that made him ask. But the truth is, I'm sure he already knew. The truth is, Do Yoon had never put a label on it because he wasn't going to go further, and YeJun was too afraid to bring it up. That long distance fuck buddy relationship would have been stretched out just the same. And YeJun would only be the one to be hurt. Just longer than when he had become despondent at school.
I don't think he feels abandoned when he broke it off though. Because it was mutual. He was gonna let the relationship go so how can he blame the uke for no longer accepting the FWB relationship? The thing that he is upset about is that he is bonded. But even if he is, the author hasn't done a good job of showing his real intentions. He DOESN'T have to take YeJun in. He could just take the child and go. Yes. Even if he likes YeJun, I still haven't seen quality time other than seggs seggs seggs. I mean, he's just being possessive but there hasn't been an OUNCE of love.
And then he's like, oh you can't get away from me now? Like, ok. U let him go then. But he can't just have the let's keep it at arms length anymore relationship now that he has him??? I mean, he's already bound him hands and foot. What else can he do to him?!? Now it's confinement so you can't leave.
He's just acting like a ROCK at this point.
you're too focus on the status of what their relationship was as well. all i am saying is that they were together and seme always liked the uke. he would've been fine with the way thins were and continued. it is not a stretch. there was no indication the seme wanted to end things. obviously their relationshp in college wasn't going to end well given the seme's trauma.
hence the second chance. the baby being sick was the way the seme found him, YES. that's the plot point to bidn them back together!! but I am trying to tell you, regardless, kid or not he always liked the uke. he is just not realizing how much he does!!!
i knew you were going to touch on that lolol. abandonment is probably an underlying factor, i should've placed emphasis on 'trapping' him more if you wanted to get technical. it's pretty obvious what the author is doing. he LIKES yejun hence why he's not letting him go! i told you this is the classic trope seme bl!!
and I think the author has done a good job at giving direct hints about the seme's underlying feelings for the uke. you keep saying 'but he's treating him like crap' and i keep having to repeat, that of course he issssss. he's not going to get better until he fully embraces his feelings for the uke and fixes his damn trauma. again, this has all the classic bl toxic seme and poor uke tropes. this manga isn't that deep. just enjoy it for what it is. lots of smut with the classic subpar bl plot and characters. the best thing about these types of manga is always the art.
I'm not sure if it will ever be possible since his behavior is classic abandonment issue which may or may not stem from being abandoned by his mom. It can be but idk. They're using that trope in this story. But my personal experience is that borderline personality disorder exists which most be due to attachment-anxiety regardless or external circumstances.
I've said before, bl manga stories are not a place to compare or project real life things into. especially one with the aspect of such off-the-wall concept such as an omegaverse trope lol.
You also don't have to agree with how the mangaka goes about her story in regards to the seme-ukes relationship and the seme's illness etc etc, and that's fine. But you have to separate real-life logic from fiction. I've been basing my analysis on the manga alone and not anything other than what has been in the manga so far and what I think the author is trying to convey. I don't compare it to real life logic because it wouldn't work and wouldn't make sense too.
Again, just read this story for what it is. It'll be like clockwork, the toxic seme's going to get better and treat the uke better by the end of the story, and they'll live happily ever after with their kid.
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*covered , not converted
* Or, not so
not sure what youre getting at. but I rem from another post I said I'd link back to you if I was right. well everything is going as I've assumed. The only thing I didn't get right on was that the seme intentionally dropped the stabalizer but that's still a possibly. if not Id take that lost in lieu of everything else correct lol.
I think my message got lost after I'd typed it. But it was basically something about how the Omegaverse is something that requires suspension of disbelief. But not the psychological aspects, if that was to be introduced. I was correcting some autocorrections but apparently it didn't even post so.
yeahhhhh, I don’t think the psychological aspects need to be taken too seriously here either. Again Omegaverse, with its unique tropes, really just works best when viewed as pure fiction, not something to overlay with real-life psychology. I'd say just read the story for what it is and the way the author presents it.
anyways which is whyy the story is going pretty much as I predicted. Also not looking to further this old discussion, just wanted to honestly gloat lol. Have a nice day!