So... All these stories are about identical characters in all the stories, and annoying, needy and ridiculously girly ukes just one of them wasn't) that all they do is cry and beg for the seme's dicks so they can drool and make disgusting expressions while crying and then they whine and play the victim card saying "stop", but they already voluntarily spread their legs. That in a nutshell... I wish someone told me that earlier.
don't give me the "try doing something better" kind of crap, because I'm entitled to my opinion.
And I'm entitled to say if you don't like it don't read it! Don't trash someone's hard work just cause you didn't like their style. It's the sticky stuff that sells it, and wanton ukes are my cup of tea!! (╬￣皿￣)凸
And again I'm entitled to say I don't like that sticky sh*the lol. Then tell me How the hell am I supposed to find a good story if I don't read? I'd love to know since The tags are really tricky so they don't help either... But now I know I must stay away from this author.
Nah dude I gotta agree with you there wish I did not read it also.
And to the response who said don't trash someone else's work, it's an opinion being voiced. The storyline was not good and the characters unrealistic. It's the same as someone not liking a book or movies, that's why critics exist. So grow up.
Thank you! People usually get all defensive and attack these kind of comments lol
The uke was So annoying and ridiculously girly... Why do all of them have to be so damn Needy? It's Like all they want is the cock. Geez...
I definitely agree
I've seen some girly uke but they 're not annoying like this...and that third couple really is doomed.
Wait, isn't that all we want, too? I'm confused...
Jk, honestly it was more disturbing for me that they looked malnourished like they've been feeding them on bean per day than how much they all looked like Yuuki from Vampire Knight lol.
Not asexual people tho, We're just fine with cheesecake lol
Well, the entire thing was pretty disturbing to me :/ both, the abusive seme and the extremely submissive uke... The way he was just okay with the humiliation and abuse as long the seme kissed his foot... I mean what the actual fuck?! That's the reason I hated this.
dude (idk if you are a dude but works for meh) This is a yaoi. I don't really get why asexual ppl read yaoi (my friend also does it and I don't get it, kind of goes to show that you can't always relate to everyone) but yaoi has sex. a lot of the time the unnecessarily horny type. The end. But I would also be just fine with some cheesecake tho
I think the mangaka said at some note page or something that she wanted to show how ppl become strange when in love. I liked it honestly, BECAUSE it was twisted, but definitely nowhere near relationship goals or to be taken seriously. Also, just chill, when you get over the stage where yaoi you read can make you feel disturbed you are at the point where you can truly enjoy yaoi imo (just don't read every yaoi in your disposal to get there lol)
it's fiction, and not the type that takes itself the "realistic, serious way". if it did, i think getting pissed would be pretty much common sense. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Haha I get it. I was Just explaining why I disliked it that much. Well, about the first thing you said, I know it's hard to get, but since sex it's not a relevant thing (nor as a topic or the actual thing), this it's Just like reading any kind of thing. Honestly, I'm here for the Violence lol that's what I enjoy. The sex scenes honestly bother me, but again, this is yaoi so...
And Since I share this account with some friends, I make the "uke all getting hurt/ or raped" list. Some of them like the fluffly and unnecessary explict sex scenes and they make the lists for that. But again, being the asexual one...that to me it's Just boring lol (or annoying. I feel kind of grossed out by the expressions the ukes make while fucking). Well I hope you understand better now.
hahahah yeah my friend says something along those lines too. She mostly reads shounen ai tho for more obvious reasons.
btw what do you mean by violence, I'm intrigued. I also like the more fucked up stuff that's what gets me off the most ლ(´ڡ`ლ) *perverted old man face*
Well, I have boundaries lol, but I like twisted stuff. But here the only thing I find is violence against the ukes, and since it was recommended to me time ago and I don't really look for other kinds of Manga, is all I read here. I just don't understand why there's so many of those :s and the worst thing it's that people find it "so cute" and "hot" when they get raped and then they fall for the very guys who raped them. But well... They'd probably think I'm the weirdest one lol
Nah you're not weird and I thought you meant you like violence ahahah that's why I got curious. Well to get it from another perspective, I have a rape fetish so I'm like the complete opposite from you lol. From my side most -not all- of those rape/violence stories are half baked and sometimes I even feel insulted lol, Idk why I just feel like people have weird ideas of what a rape fantasy is all about and get uncomfortable. I also have no idea why people find them cute and hot, but I think most people skip over the fact that "this is rape ya know?" and just don't take anything seriously. Or they are idiots, but you are bound to find those everywhere, it's a matter of lack of life experience and just plain lack of maturity or so I think. Once some chick said she calls yaoi rape "forced consensual sex" - prob to console herself - so yeah. -__-
I think that as long as it's clear that the manga doesn't take itself seriously I don't mind that type of stuff. In this case I would say it made the effort to be more "relatable" to reality but it was still quite different from actual reality so I didn't care ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Oh I get it and I get your point. Well, people are entitled to their own opinions, but some people are just... Dumb, since they have no knowledge about certain things and not even the authors seem to kno And I do like violence, but as I said before, I have boundaries. Some things are just too much, and to me that means anything involving animals and other things.
Oh ignore the last comment. I posted before I finished it. The thing I meant after
"people are entitled to their own opinions, but some people are just... Dumb, since they have no knowledge about certain things and not even the authors seem to know" was that they don't know the difference between gay and straight or "bisexual", since they just think it's possible for a straight guy to allow and enjoy forced sex with another man. Well this has nothing to do with the previous topic, but here's my point : most people just like living in ignorance, or as you proved quoting that girl, they believe what they want. And I know Manga is not supposed to be a serious thing, but some of them have no plot or whatsoever ah! And I get fetishism but rape it's just over used lol
Hahahahah yeah Ikr! You tell me. My thoughts exactly, like I said sometimes I even take it as a personal insult like "No you are wrong me no like dis it doesn't work like that what are you even, if you're gonna do it why you no do it right?!?! (╯°Д °)╯╧╧" even if it's a matter of personal taste of the creator at the end... -___-
Anyway agreed. People like ignorance and more importantly they like pretending they are in the right even when common sense disagrees, oh well ╮(￣▽￣)╭ moving on ~ at the end of it, yaoi has come to mean romantic fantasies of straight men (or straight acting men) falling for each other, it's by women for women (mostly :P) so it would make sense for it to be as such. Like I said, go for shounen ai. My friend likes 19 days and all that jazz a lot.
Haha I'm glad someone gets it! Well one of the guys who usually use this account is gay and hates almost every single yaoi Manga out there for those reasons and waay more. He finds the way people here react to the "ridiculous plots" hilarious(and the way the authors portrait relationships)well... again, you can't take it too serious. I might take your advice! And I'll keep reading the tags to avoid annoying ukes or disappointment lol
LOL that's so true
Miwa was such a needy selfish slut. When he asked Hoshina to fuck him, he should have said no, so that nasty hoe would be there just feeling pathetic and once again rejected and that was what he deserved. Hoshina just was dumb enough to get involved with someone who didn't give a fuck about him...
Ikr... We should quit reading this crap :( there's only a few needy ukes free that are worth reading.
Hmm I strongly dislike the "super cute and innocent" always the lady in distress kind of uke. So considering the name and cover I totally should skip this one lol
It's not what you think it is, it has a twist.
So it's not the innocent useless uke is who plays the clueless card and then ends up being a cock lover anyway? 'cause I'm done with them (AKA most yaoi stories).
I don't know know where that "is" came from.
but i like how he has 2 personalitties
Oh no, not at all. This one has a totally diffrent twist. You should try it, its great!
Trust me when I say that Iku is (obviously) not as innocent as the whole world thinks he is.
Oh. Now I see ppl didn't get what I meant. I really meant I usually don't like ukes because they play the innocent/victim card and then end up showing their true nature, which is being addicted to cocks. I like it better when they're just honest and say what they say want, instead of acting like innocent kids. It just sickens me.
Ah, right. If you don't like the fact innocent act at all (wether it's an act or for real) it's probably not for you.
I figured. Thanks anyway :)
Have you read anything by Naono Bohra? If you don't like super cute and innocent ukes it might be something for you.
I don't think
Oops. I meant I don't think I have, but I might do! Thanks for the recommendation
Anytime, those are some awesome mangas in my opinion. One of my absolute favourite mangakas!
Change that, it has a major twist...You'll love it!!ヾ(☆▽☆)
If I were a guy and a kid suddenly started sucking me, I would freaking kick him in the face lol
It looks like I'm the only one who didn't like (actually kind of hated) Akira. So needy and annoying. Oh well...
There's no such thing as "straight uke/straight seme" they're either gay and never able to accept it, so they never fully come out OR they're at least bisexual (wich personally I think it's another way to cover the fact you're gay) OR Maybe they're just pansexual. that's actually the most reasonable explanation when it comes to "love/like" someone the same sex as you or when you let them fuck you... A real straight guy would feel grossed out by the very touch of a gay guy. So I don't get why the mangakas or whatever they call them, stay completely ignorant about it. Even If he was confused at first.. He gradually started to like it. And Even in "desperate/confused" Times your body wouldn't let you do anything you don't really want. You guys get it, don't you? You know there's a difference between being straight and bisexuality, pansexual and such?
Haha I don't think straight guys would read this but you got a point, although... how wouldn't you know who blindfolded you if you weren't asleep or kidnapped? lol and in that or any other case, I would be so scared I would feel grossed out and terrified, nothing like yaoi shows you, because here it doesn't matter if they raped you and hit you, ukes always get it up lol
Yaoi just glittery love story that cutesy the rape and called it as 'act of love'.
There is no one can get it up when get raped
Exactly. But as I said, here in "yaoi world" it happens and rape turns into needy love and the need for your captor's cock's, and that's how the Stockholm syndrome hits.
This exactly
Your body will react either way. A rape victim can orgasm. It happens and often leads to guilt.
There are many cases. Not every victim.
I never said it happens in every case, I said it "can" happen given the victim is able to. I never said every victim would. You on the other hand made an orgasm seem nearly impossible.
Nope. I understand it very well. I never said it impossible.
"There is no one can get it up when get rape."
Your words, not mine.
Omaygad. You don't understand, do you? So okay, here was the case that I was read. The victim got gang raped more than once in his school. Where the rapist made him come and get up by stimulate his penis. He was scared so every morning he jerk off and pee so there will be no more 'get up'. In this case later the parents know about it and brought it to law.
That's what I mean. Usually they won't get up because the victim only feel fear but it possible. But once the victim get stimulated and come. The rapist will say 'so you enjoy it huh?'. It gone to their mind and they felt self-loathing.
What I mean is even if they got up doesn't mean they enjoy it. So the body could react but the mind won't.
If you read all these comments you'll understand how here we talk about
"In yaoi, the rape victim feel pleasure and fall in love with the rapist" but we compare the 'yaoi world' to real world. Which there are some cases of Stockholm syndrome but not as frequent as yaoi.
So in the end what I was trying to say is in real world the victim may got aroused, hard and come but they don't feel love.
I respect it if you want to keep this conversation you need at least use your account not as anonymous or newly made acc.
But I'd rather say no more.
Lol the real point was the difference between sexual preferences and how the authors and most people just don't get it. But OK...
Hmm, how about cases like in prisons? When straight men would be put together and develop feelings for each other? Or how about when the world is the destroyed, and there are only 2 people left in the world, which happens to be straight men? Would you think that they will come to love each other?
I understand your argument. And I completely agree with it. However, I believe that there are still more rooms for discussion.
Hmm about the prison situation.. The cases one usually hears about, are rape. Is really unlikely that straight guys become guy, but I'm not saying impossible. The second one... LOL i'm going to skip it since is not even a possibility and well... Yeah. There's so many situations where a person might change his mind and or feelings, but the authors don't seem to identify these cases or the sexual preferences. They just play the "straight guy that can't accept he loves being the one getting dicks or the one who loves fucking guys but won't admit it"
Completely agree with you. There is no straight seme or uke. So long as they willingly sleep with other men and enjoy it they are not straight. Perhaps bi at most or pan but not straight.
Ugh I hate the disgusting expression the uke makes. Always drooling...And yet he pretends he doesn't like dicks, but y'all think "omg he's so cute".Sure he was forced and blah blah, but did the character try to escape? Even when he was about to be raped by other guys, (because apparently being useless Guy and girly ASF is hot...) he didn't even move and just he was waiting to be raped. Because that was the idea for the character, so stop pitting him. He is not innocent, just stupid and he seemed to enjoy it anyways...and The other characters were so freaking stupid. The seme "expressing his love" by raping that little thot. Seriously couldn't finish it. With that being said, Let's The fun begins.
so why did you read it? （￣へ￣）
Oh. Then Just tell me how the hell I was supposed to know about it if I didn't read it? LOL. I Just stopped doing it for the reasons I pointed out. Geez
Im just saying. If you knew what the manga was about why did you take the trouble of reading it? Just to prove yourself you wouldn't like it?
And there is a development in Ayase relationship with Kanou, a small one but still.
I do agree with you though, sometimes you just wanna punch them in the face.(╯°Д °)╯╧╧
But whatever, you dont have to like it.
I didn't know anything. I usually read the tags but not this time lol
And yess, I don't have to like it and I didn't. Just wrote the comment as a reminder of why I shouldn't re-read read as the title says.
Right hun? Ayase Makes me wanna puke. I'd punch them and kill them all I swear.
Hahaha. I don't know about the killing thing but i would probably punch him too. I think most people would.(╯°Д °)╯╧╧
I know how you feel! Tried this manga so manga times (well, it has a high ranking after all, or to be more precise: it seems to be quite popular), but I never really managed to read it through. And I have read loads of shit, but at least they were a bit shorter and hotter. I mean sometimes i just need pwp, but ahhh... it is not even up to my taste for that (despite me not having anything against dub con, borderline shota, debt-motivated-prostitution, possessive lovers etc.) maybe it's just ayase looking too much like a weak-willed woman that is in a abusive relationship that he(more like she) can not break away from. being a woman myself it makes it harder to keep the distance to ridiculous-yaoi-fantasy land. then again I did read other stories like that where it did not feel as bad
This morning I had a dream where ayase was like half angel and half demon. So when he was his demon side he was all slutty and really mean but when he was an angel he was all kind to everyone.
when i first read this I hated it when ever they had sex but now that read it again i understand it more
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I feel you (〜￣△￣)〜 I really really REALLY freaking hate that DAMN SEME!!! GRRRR!! I wanna kill him, he's the worst. I really hate how he expresses his love, so freaking violent! Ayase is stupid but then again, I feel somewhat sad for him even though he can always speak his mind, but he obviously doesn't.
yeah for some reason my chest tightens and I feel a little gorse the first time they have sex but same with the others. BUT where it dose the bathroom sex with the mirror i the worst for me (︶︿︶)＝凸
well to add for the devil personality here was like a sadist
Not gonna lie... I love violence and abuse. That's my jam, but this is a bit too much even for me.
The uke it's just as sick as the other two. After being raped (with no real effort to stop it, except for the typical "No, stop"), he voluntarily wanted to see his brother. There's no such thing as" brainwashed ". If anything, he only has the worst luck for having those manipulative guys way too close and that he is just too stupid or lacks any willpower to do anything about because clearly he likes having two dicks for himself...
Brainwashing is all too real.