If this manhwa would follow the novel, then it would be a really really long time before FL and ML would even begin to understand each other hehe. This story is very similar to Bringing the Nation's Husband Home. This will be a super slowwwww buuuurn
I have a question…. Are they twins or is this like a split personality type of thing
brothers look so much alike, almost identical
Omgg thank uuuu
I don't know where some people are getting that Winter was physically abusing Violet. Is there an AU of this story somewhere that we haven't seen? I get that some people hate the ML, but surely not to the point of making up your own story, believing it to be real, and then making other people believe it's true? It sounds a bit...unhinged, NGL
BAHAHAHA yes.. i was like.. where tf did they read it? Maybe they're high while reading cuz i didn't ever see Winter raise his hand.. ever..
I don't remember him ever raising his hand on her ... he never did that ... his parents did lock her up
Exactly! Right? Winter never did. He was never abusive. Yes he had his priorities wrong, yes he neglected Violet, but he was never ever abusive. I don't know why some people--actually one commenter in particular--kept insisting that he beats his wife. So i asked, what story were they reading? They got so pissed by my question, they blocked me hahaha!
BAHAHA we both know who it is
Oh, they blocked you too? Haha! I see they're still hanging around here trying to convince people that Winter was abusive. I'm sure anyone who would oppose would be blocked. @Ms.fantasy, you'd probably be blocked too hahaha! BTW, i loved how you replied to "Bro"! (i wanted to reply to your comment there but since i was blocked, i couldn't post on their topic hahaha)
Oh, they blocked you too? Haha! I see they're still hanging around here trying to convince people that Winter was abusive. I'm sure anyone who would oppose would be blocked. @Ms.fantasy, you'd probably be blocked too hahaha! BTW, i loved how you replied to "Bro"! (i wanted to reply to your comment there but since i was blocked, i couldn't post on their topic hahaha)
HAHA YES i want to reply to your comment too then i was like.. the heck . I can't? It says due to user's setting . LMAO .
My heart aches for Cain. He must feel so all alone. I really hope authors are planning one grand happy ending for him.
Cesar is obsessed with his adoptive sister. He's a total freak. I hate that they made this character so good looking. Physically he looks like an angel, but he's more monstrous inside than MC's real life monster friends.
Side note: Cesare and Izek's names being changed here is so distracting sigh
I get that he's frustrated at Yahwi, but he shouldn't take his frustrations and anger out on Cain. Best boy doesn't deserve that, even though he's a bit shady, keeping so many things from him.
I just wish Jooin makes a clear choice, and soon. Nobody deserves to be strung along
Ch80 would hurt Yahwi stans. It made me sad. But i think it's needed to make yahwi understand that a mere apology would not be enough to make jooin forgive him so easily. This chap would be polarizing for sure. That being said, thank you uploader for waiting a while longer before uploading. My friends who are co-fans of this manhwa were forced to purchase chapters for the past 2 weeks because they were itching to read the update and couldn't find it here. Thank you for your consideration
Uploader, how about waiting for at least a day (or two) before you post the update here? How about giving the authors a chance to earn from their hard work first? Even if this is an illegal site, we can still have scruples, right?
no sorry dog, even if you claim to be a "nice guy" then why don't you go buy the chapters? there is no in-between. cant just try and be helpful by not helping at all.
agree! it’s not hard to wait a day or two.
It’s crazy to complain about translators not allowing authors to gain an income when you’re reading off an illegal site. All the people who will read illegally will do so regardless if it’s two days late
Agreed
Lmfaoo literally
Riiiiiggggghttttt
Lmaaaao exactly.
fr, its still taking income either way. and chapters are posted on tik tok too, which takes money away. ofc it isnt illegal but still
Distinguish between TRANSLATORS and UPLOADERS. Translators work, uploaders merely steal. There's a big difference. Also if UPLOADERS wait for a day or two, this CAN force fans who cannot wait to read the latest updates to actually BUY. Of course it's different for people who are simply freeloaders and thieves. It's just a matter of conscience sometimes you know
Agree, 100% . It wouldn't hurt to wait a few days to give better chances to the legit owners of the comic
I buy. 'Cause i am a fan. Would you like to see pics
or screenshots of my purchased manhwas? I can send them readily to you. Just say when
What difference does it make between the uploaded and the translator if the effect is the same? The translator is translating it the same day it’s released. The uploader is uploading it the same day it’s released. They’re both stealing from the author by distributing it. Everyone reading it here illegal is doing the same exact thing. And no, you cannot force someone to buy a manga to read if they’re know it’s going to come out in two days. It’s common sense
I buy chapters the minute they get released for two reasons: one, appreciation for the work, and two, because i cannot wait to read the update. There are a lot like me out here/there. Not every body thinks it defies common sense to buy legally if the stolen version is going to come out in a few days. Also, even if the results are "still the same", translators, unlike mere uploaders, at least help readers to undertand non-english works. They at least spend time and effort to pick up and work on manhuas without official english versions, and for that i am grateful because it's frustrating to purchase japanese and korean works which i can barely understand using translator apps. Nevertheless, i still purchase because as i've said, i cannot wait to read the latest updates. And no, most translators (if not all) do not upload on the same day of release because they have to work on the translations, clean up, and edit.
This website gains millions of users a month. The people on this site read here illegally because they either candy afford to buy it or just refuse to buy the Manga they’re reading. You know you’re the minority “buying” manga and still read it illegally. You know most people on here are not paying for it. And regardless if translators are spending time translating this for us they are still 100% doing it illegally, because the author is getting NONE of their income. In fact, I’ve seen multiple translators on here request money for themselves. What you’re trying to tell me is that these illegal translators should wait a few days so that the people who read illegally will be tempted to actually pay the author when they clearly had no intent to do so since they’re on this site because YOU feel as if we’re taking advantage of their work. Get off your high horse, if you’re gonna read illegally here don’t turn the corner and tell everyone else to pay for the same manga you’re pirating
Thank you. I hope there are still a lot like you here who are not total jerks
Thank you. I hope there'd be more like us on here who choose not to be total as$h0les
Again, i purchase chapters. I can send you screenshots of the chapters i have bought, just say the word. So no, it's not "buying" with the quotation marks. And when did i "tell everyone else to pay for the manga"? I dont recall asking anyone that? I just asked the uploader to show a little bit of respect and not be the total a$sh@|e and upload on the same day. You're right, there's just some of us here compared to the millions of you. But that "some" help the authors earn, and that's still something. This may sound crazy to you but a lot of people hang around here to read comments and engage with co-fans, like i do. And I dont know what was so wrong with my post that you have to continously insult me? Never did i say do not read illegally, who would do that on an illegal site? I am just saying that even if we're on here, we can still have some conscience. What you're saying is, since this is an illegal site, it's OK to be an out and out criminal and have zero respect and scruples.
You feeling insulted is not my problem. If you’re hurt by anything I said then I’m probably right. If you want to complain about authors not getting a fair chance at income then you need to voice that opinion on a site that’s to giving away what could be their income for free. You are not doing the author a solid or respecting them by requesting their stuff ve upload les later because once it’s uoaded they’re not getting income. You’re talking out your ass and I don’t understand why
Same, i dont understand why you're talking out your ass too. If you wanna be an as$h0|e go on right ahead. If you dont like my post, stop coming on here. Are u the/an uploader? Why u so hurt by what i said?
Because you’re complaining about stealing from authors on a site that runs solely off the theft of authors. It’s backwards and hypocritical. If you want to support the authors then do that but if you’re gonna get worn out by someone replying to how phony you sound then don’t make the statement at all
You thinking i'm phony and hypocritical is not my problem. You dont wanna take on my challenge of sending u proofs that i legally buy manga coz u dont wanna be proven wrong. Anyway, continue being an as$h0|e who wants to make my comments her problem. I said what i said, uploader can also continue being an jerk like u too. I'm still gonna go around here and calling out those who shamelessly repost chapters on the same day as the authors. If u wanna continue minding my posts, u'r very welcome to do so :D
Ur trying to act like such a good person by telling the uploader to wait before posting for the sake of the author when simply being on this site completely defies that. Sure you also purchase chapters but ur not any better if ur still an active user here LMFAO u think you have a "conscience" just coz of that but nah maybe if u stick to only reading officially then youll be better than the rest of us :)))
You thinking i'm hypocritical and a phony is not my problem. You don't want to take on my challenge of sending u proof that i legally buy manga bcoz u don't wanna be proven wrong. Anyway, continue being an a$sh0l€ who wants to make my comments her problem. I said what I said. Uploader may also choose to be a j€rk like u too. I'm still gonna go around here calling out those who shameless repost updates on the same day as the authors. If u want to continue minding my posts, u'r very welcome to do so :))
You thinking i'm hypocritical and a phony is not my problem. You don't want to take on my challenge of sending u proof that i legally buy manga bcoz u don't wanna be proven wrong. Anyway, continue being an a$sh0l€ who wants to make my comments her problem. I said what I said. Uploader may also choose to be a j€rk like u too. I'm still gonna go around here calling out those who shameless repost updates on the same day as the authors. If u want to continue minding my posts, u'r very welcome to do so :))
You thinking i'm hypocritical and a phony is not my problem. You don't want to take on my challenge of sending u proof that i legally buy manga bcoz u don't wanna be proven wrong. Anyway, continue being an ass who wants to make my comments her problem. I said what I said. Uploader may also choose to be a jerk like u too. I'm still gonna go around here calling out those who shameless repost updates on the same day as the authors. If u want to continue minding my posts, u'r very welcome to do so :))
I'm not "trying to act like such a good person". I may be on here but i am definitely better than you, of that i'm sure. You taking what i said negatively is proof of that. Anyway, you do you.
ron't worry, I know ppl who visit this site who buy legally too. i'm not going to pretend I buy all the mangas i follow here but I'm one of who also feels bad when uploaders post as soon as the official gets released.i don't mind waiting. you didn't say anything wrong.i think those who got offended got offended cos they don't like the idea that people who visit mangago can also be conscionable. they don't like anyone dampening their enjoyment of stolen goods, prpbbly thnkng since we're here,we should all just enjoy swimmng in the fires of hell LMAO
What challenge? How will screenshots of a manage prove anything to the converdation? If I’m saying this site runs illegally and the people on this site read in contrast to the authors best interest then what do you think sharing photos of a manga you bought will serve compared to the rest of the illegality of this site?
Exactly. There is no moral high ground here. They are still reading here on this site knowing very well it has been the downfall to multiple authors and mangas
Nah it’s not like that at all. I’m offended because if they really wrote what they felt then they wouldn’t support a site at all. If they have the money to support the author then they should 100% but it’s fucked up to the author to advocate for their manga to be successful and still support the site that genuinely has the potential to put it under. It’s one think to feel bad for an author and say “hey wait a few days so they could get a couple coins” and then turn around and still use the site that’s taking in and another to not use it at all. I think if they have something to feel they should stand on that
Love the confidence!! Keep up the delusion and think ur better than anyone, oh but maybe if you delete ur account on this illegal website then youll do ur beloved authors a favor :3
You're calling me a phony because u don't believe I buy legally. So i'm asking u if you want me to send u proof that i mean what i say. Anyway, we're going round in circles and this is getting long. Let's just agree to disagree. I'm of the opinion that people can show a little bit of respect to authors even if they're on here. You, on the other hand, would rather everyone here do not give the authors a chance to earn a living. For you, it should be all or nothing, that people here should be the baddest they can be. Since they've chosen to steal, then why bother with the livelihood of others, right? Got you spot on, didn't i? Anyway, you do you too. Imma continue to be me.
I'm actually doing them a favor because i actually purchase their work. Reading comments and engaging with co-fans here is something i do to while away my time. Who says we all should be like you, an out and out thief, shameless leeching off of others to stay here? You're funny.
Exactly. Thank you for understanding. It's not even really that hard, I'm baffled as to why these people are so pressed. What did i say that was so wrong? Anyway, thank you!
Saying all of this when u literally use this site oml.. it rlly doesnt matter if u buy chapters the moment u come on here defeats that purpose... "reading comments and engaging with co-fans" PLEASE sorry to break if to u but until u become a full on official reader ur the same as me hehe
How are we the same when i support the author and you don't? The authors i am a fan of earns from me, while you just harass people here in the comments section attempting to shame them for asking for a little bit of time so the owners can earn a liitle. Sorry to break it to you but we are far from being the same.
yall r agruing sm like its going to change each others opinions, neither of yall are wrong. Its is the right thing to upload a bit after the author does but this is an illegal website. I dont get why yall keep attacking each other, neither is wrong.
No, I’m calling you phony for wanting to support authors financially but then turning around to support the site that’s stealing money from them. That’s why this conversation has been going to the point it has. You’re saying one thing but behaving another. If you want to support the author then stand on it whole heartedly
This conversation has been going on because you're so offended by what i said you can't leave it alone. You can't accept that people can both purchase legally and still be here. You want all the people here to be callous and unscrupulous, and that the only ones who have every right to be here are those who wouldnt even dream of support for the authors and their works. You act as if you own this site who has the right to tell people to not be here if they do not conform to your evlness. Yes, you are ev¡l. What is so bad about hoping for a few more coins going to the author? Anyone with a conscience would not take offense from what i said. Anyway, even if you don't want to accept it, there will always be people like me here. And my message above will be for those people, not for those like you. You're beyond hope. But if calling me names helps you feel better about yourself, go on right ahead.
This conversation has been going on because you're so offended by what i said you can't leave it alone. You can't accept that people can both purchase legally and still be here. You want all the people here to be callous and unscrupulous, and that the only ones who have every right to be here are those who wouldnt even dream of support for the authors and their works. You act as if you own this site who has the right to tell people to not be here if they don't want to be totally shameless like you. Sorry, but i refuse to be like you. And whether you like it or not, there are lots like me here. You don't get to dictate who wants to be on here or not, and what we should and should not post.
You want me to give it up sooo badly but I’m not, you want to know why? Because you’re deliberately ignoring what I’m writing to you and instead responding to what you think this conversation should be. If I’m saying that it’s hypocritical to support the sites stealing from authors then where are you getting I’m upset because you bought a manga?
I'm ignoring the things you're saying that has nothing to do with my posts. You're choosing to misunderstand and then you want me to respond to your conjecture?
"Because you’re complaining about stealing from authors on a site that runs solely off the theft of authors" - When did i ever complain about stealing? I merely asked the uploader to wait a few days. When did i ever ask the uploader not to upload, ever? Where???
" if you’re gonna read illegally here don’t turn the corner and tell everyone else to pay for the same manga you’re pirating"
- When did i do this? When did i ever ask everyone else to pay???
"where are you getting I’m upset because you bought a manga?"
- When did i ever say you're upset i bought a manga? I said you're offended because you don't want to accept that it can be normal for people to purchase and still be here.
You're making things up and then you want me not ignore your penchant for fabrication? Are you okay??
I don't like arguing but if people are going to come on here, under MY post, and sh!t on me and what i said, you can be sure i'm going to push back.
"Because you’re deliberately ignoring what I’m writing to you and instead responding to what you think this conversation should be."
-- Shouldn't the conversation be about my request to the uploader to wait a few days before uploading? You can refer to this thread's "topic", it's really not that deep. You made your own spin on what i said (by making things up, i might add) and then you want me to think that's where the conversation should be? Are you okay? Who died and made you queen?
You're presuming to know my thoughts when you can't even comprehend my very simple, incredibly basic, initial request to the uploader to wait a few days? The audacity
then why are you here? you made an account even, so sad.
^^^^^ THIS
I have already addressed this question in the thread. And no need to be sad, you are very welcome to do the same, nobody should stop you. Well, they shouldn't, but they could try, if they're vile
I sure hope you're not one of them coz, you know, i can keep this going. I have time
I have already addressed this question in the thread. And no need to be sad, you are very welcome to do the same, nobody should stop you. Well, they shouldn't, but they could try, if they're vile
I sure hope you're not one of them coz, you know, i can keep this going. I have time
They literally post it the day after. No need to wait more days. If it's such a problem then go buy the chapters yourself
I do buy every single chapter legally. Are you okay?
Then stop complaining. I'm just fine I buy these chapters as well and don't see me complaining
My post was from July of last year, waaay before the uploader started uploading updates a day after. They ised to upload mere minutes after the original authors. Before you run your mouth--or in this case, your keypad,--i would suggest you do your homework first. You talk as if we know each other and i should be like you just ''cause, like me, you purchase legally too. You're welcome to ask the uploader directly yourself why and when they have decided to upload a day after. It's fairly easy to DM, really. I should know. Also, i dont believe you're okay, seeing that you cant mind your own business commenting over a post made from 8 months ago. Maybe you should get yourself checked.
yall are STILL arguing hasn’t this been going on for months
My point exactly. This post hasnt been visited since Aug of 2023. Of course i would be notified if somebody commented under it. I'm not really one to shy away from people attempting to sh!t on me or my posts. So yea, keep trying. I have time.
one of yall fr needa give up because at the end of the day you both will believe your in the right and thats not wrong. Its okay for people to have differences, just both apologizes to each other and call it a day
this is an online website you two probably wont see each other again on here ngl
Again, this is my post. Who do you think should 'give up'? The uploader of this manhwa started uploading a day after updates come out because we had a serious one-on-one over DMs July of last year. I thought this has been put to rest until today when some shmuck decided to resurrect it to attempt to sh!t on me. I'm all for healthy discourse, even thoughtful arguments around here, but i won't tolerate fools trying to pick fights like WTF
This popped up in the comments I didn't know it was this old LMAOOO mangago tripped for a bit on this manhwa idk HAHha
Tbh it doesn't matter. This comment came across me yesterday somehow a d I thought it was new. Now who cares I'm not talking on this comment anymore after this LOLLLL
If you're not up for more angst, better drop this coz you'd probably be griping til next month. There'd still be a lot more drama coming your way. But if you want to see one of the most satisfying redemption arcs (iMO) then stick around and take a chance. Also, the art of this manhwa is exceptionally beautiful. You can also read the novel, while waiting for comic updates ;)
Redemption for who exactly!? It's been such a ride I don't even know now who to be angry with or who to root for. *Sigh*
The ML, of course. Actually, both MC & ML would both be waaaay better versions of themselves in the future. BUT not before more heartbreak and drama (there'd still be A LOT!) The novel is one huge rollercoaster ride. But if this manhwa will follow the OG story, it'll be satisfying (and surprising) in the end :))
Do you have the link for the eng trans of the novel?
Here’s a more easier link: https://www.wattpad.com/story/236974738-silent-lover-mute-slave
Thank you!
At this point i really dont know who would be endgame. On one hand, plot is kinda swinging towards Yahwi. On another, artist's artwork of Yahwi is getting worse, while Cain's getting even...hotter? Even with a handprint on his face, he's still handsome. Yahwi's face is getting a little bit weird every episode hahahaha