
He literally reached the point of asking her to give him a direct answer, be with him or tell him to leave/go die, yet she's still changing her mind every few chapters or so on whether she wants him. Woman. I don't understand like I am not saying this ain't toxic on both sides, and fuck this story and everything, but taking this specific plot point into perspective, how is this the moment you decide to believe him??? Like wasn't it the intention of that past incident where he left Dietrich to die? He specifically kept apologizing and crying and begging you to believe him, yet you refused it all saying you don't care what he feels now or says now it's the fact he already did it.
Which is cool. Okay. Weird and kinda hypocritical but sure.
Now dawg.... He says the same apology to Dietrich. The. Same. Exact. Apology. And suddenly you believe him? Suddenly you decide ahhh he says the same thing to Dietrich so I guess it must be true guess he wasn't lying to me I should've accepted his apology and understood that it was a moment of weakness where he resorted to his base instincts that were ingrained into him in his past life by his heinous half brother and sadistic wife?
Wow. What changed shawty? I guess Willheim should tell other people what he wishes to tell Reinhardt for her to actually fucking hear him out and spare us all the stupid brain numbing blood boiling useless dragging of this plot and scenes.
This could've focused on both of them healing from years of repeated cycles of abuse, abandonment issues, and manipulation. They could've had problems within the confines of reason that HELPED them grow as characters, not sent their personalities 6 feet under.
*Insert the meme of the cow standing by the beach with the word "Man" written in times new roman right above it*

GOD I READ ALL THAT
and yes I agree, not to mention the rape of 3 days which Bianca was conceived.. was that acceptable? No
Not all the lying he did behind her back either... like that one chapter that said 'if he lies to ur face does he really love you?'
My final view on it is that they're both screwed up and not understandable in our morals and since they both match each others crazy I stopped caring about them I just care about the kids now ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

If there's anything I'll give Willheim to like him for it's that he's always been consistent. Like yes king be unhinged /consistently/. The man knew what he wanted and worked for it, even if his ways were far from moral and normal. Rein on the other hand is like an oscillating tool going back and forth without actually knowing what she fucking wants. Woman lost her IQ the chapter Michelle died.

So it looks like Wilhelm, but if it's a boy it's bad, and if it's a girl it's okay I'll take care of her and not give her trauma? I see.
Poor Billoi.
Fuck this shit... I never claimed that Wilhelm is a nice man but damn she's a bitch. Idc what y'all come at me with the whole rape thing and how she's a wonderful human being for keeping the pregnancies, she chose to keep the kids then she owns up to that choice. She chose to bring those children to life, so why is it their fault and have to bear the consequences? Tf did Billoi even do? Why did he have to face a cold unloving mother who didn't hesitate to throw him away? When she's perfectly capable of raising the kid, hence Bianca. My god I never hated a female character as much as I hate her.

She's NOT perfectly capable of raising Billoi, that was the story. Did you read? She couldn't raise him because he started to look like his father...
And no, just because someone doesn't want to kill a baby because of the father doesn't mean they need to care for it regardless of their own mental health. That's why adoption is a thing. You're advocating for keeping Billoi with her when she couldn't handle him? She gave him to Dietrich, which would've been the best bet here.

You're completely missing my point but okay. You're saying it's okay for her ro put her mental health first and give billoi away because he started to look like his father. Im sorry but that sounds narcissistic af.
You mention adoption, but it's absurd to use that term here when Reinhard knew Wilhelm is also not capable of raising Billoi and the palace is not a good place to raise him. That he'll be traumatized there more than being cared for, and she still gave him away without any hesitation. I'm not saying she should absolutely love and adore Billoi, but she chose to bring him to this world so she has an obligation to make sure he's well taken care of emotionally, physically, and mentally, even if it's not by her.
She just absolved herself from any responsibility, and that's incredibly selfish.

"You're saying it's okay for her ro put her mental health first and give billoi away because he started to look like his father. Im sorry but that sounds narcissistic af."
Yes, it is okay to give a child to someone who can look after them if you yourself cannot. It is not a good choice to choose to keep a child you can't stand to look at, yes. You can word that as badly as you want, but that's a thing in reality as well. Adoption
"You mention adoption, but it's absurd to use that term here when Reinhard knew Wilhelm is also not capable of raising Billoi and the palace is not a good place to raise him."
I was referring to Dietrich there, obviously... Giving the child to the father isn't "adoption", he's the child's parent too... And if you payed attention you'd see that it was out of Rein's hands since she was ordered to return the imperial blood child to the imperial family
"She just absolved herself from any responsibility, and that's incredibly selfish."
She gave him to someone who would care for him with love because she has trauma. He is a rape child, she is disgusted with the father who tricked her. She gave birth to him because she didn't want to blame him for the father's mistakes, she breast fed him and took care of him for years till she couldn't anymore and then she gave him to a better caretaker because she couldn't take care of him anymore. She was then forced to give him to the imperial family, when he would've been better off with Dietrich. That's the father's fault. The father then ignored him for 5 years and didn't facilitate connecting with his son's new surroundings. He has custody, it's his responsibility to make his son happy now

Man. I will admit Wilhelm was a manipulative pos and has his crocodile tears always ready to garner pity from Rein, and was a little (lot) crazy about her enough to not care Dietrich might die as long as it makes her only look at him.
It's just... He never actually killed him. He never ACTIVELY did anything. Thing is, the one who led to all of this is Rein and she just can't seem to admit it so she uses the victim card all the time. She's a gaslighter and purposefully turns a blind eye to the fact she raised, manipulated, and groomed a young boy to grow up into a tool for her hatred and revenge when she had no idea he had memories of his past life and wasn't actually groomed. I was never behind the grooming allegations because I knew he had his memories and isn't a young immature boy who can be easily swayed, but that doesn't erase her actual intentions.
She made him into someone who'll not think twice to lay his life for her and her cause, a dog on a leash again but this time in HER hands, then when he started to show a personality she... Rejected him????
Like can we all go back a bit and remember the first instances she started to have issues with Will? 1- He never told her he had his memories so he's a liar and a bad guy (she never informed him she had her memories either)
2- He developed his own thoughts and desires to take revenge as well for HIMSELF that will ultimately help her but isn't exactly in line wuth her plan (using the princess/queen idk the white haired bitch who hurt him in his past life)
3-He showed his own desires by developing feelings for her and occasionally refusing her "orders" because he either feared for her or wanted to be near her (cause how dare he i suppose)
It's not even about Wilhelm being a dick or Dietrich to begin with, it's just Rein is so adamant at proving she's right at forsaking love because of her first life, and about her losing control of the situation she carefully planned and dedicated her second life before because her tool started having, god help us all, its own thoughts.
Wilhelm IS fucked up and is not free from fault but it's ridiculous to coo and comfort the fl when she's a bitch who led to all of this happening. She kept leading him on then keeping him out of reach. Pulling him in then drawing a line and telling him not to cross. Giving him affection only to tell him it's momentary and he has to be the king/emperor for her, and that means she is not his. No wonder the guy was frantic all the time and felt like he can lose her any second, and why he sought every way to be her only option, because she really made herself to be his only one as well. He CAN'T see another option, she made sure of that the second life.
It only proves how fucking heartless she is when she was so quick to abandon her innocent child because of this. Idc how much he looked like Wilhelm and that hurt, but he is a child. He LOVES you, and needs you, and you know Wilhelm will be too emotionally anguished to care for a young boy when he can't even care for himself because you made sure of that too. So what the FUCK? She could've at LEAST kept him and let the servants raise him but made sure that he's at least safe and well taken care of and amongst people who love him.
This fucking bitch. I really cannot stand her. Any saving grace I could've granted for her was lost when she didn't look back once at her child.

i'm sorry who is "cooing and comforting the FL?" ?!? everybody in the comments sides with Willhelm and calls her a crazy b. mostly because thirsty b...es can't wait for him to take his shirt off. come on, please. turn the libido off for a minute and see them as they are, two f'd up individuals who are toxic for each other due to Michel having been a total shit in the past, but still they didn't have the foundation of character to grow up and and not be selfish egocentric ppl

I've been reading the comments after every updated chapter. And while admittedly the latest 3-4 ones this hasn't been the case, from the very start when all signs pointed to her manipulation, it was still more evident on Wilhelm and his antics and less about her, so people were at Will's throat most of the time for her sake. Like the time she first asked about Dietrich, or the time with the white haired girl when he had his own plans for her. Now that she has truly fucked up and stopped actively trying to be nice most people can't excuse her actions anymore.
That being said, I do agree that both are fucked up and are a product of what happened to them from Michael in their previous life, but unfortunately trauma is a butterfly effect. She got it, she inflicted it on him, and now they're both inflicting it on their son. It's rather painful to watch.
I love how we're all desperately barking at the manga page waiting for the update like feral dogs.
I scroll down and see people begging harder than richard for the next update and you know what? Same