He literally reached the point of asking her to give him a direct answer, be with him or tell him to leave/go die, yet she's still changing her mind every few chapters or so on whether she wants him. Woman. I don't understand like I am not saying this ain't toxic on both sides, and fuck this story and everything, but taking this specific plot point into perspective, how is this the moment you decide to believe him??? Like wasn't it the intention of that past incident where he left Dietrich to die? He specifically kept apologizing and crying and begging you to believe him, yet you refused it all saying you don't care what he feels now or says now it's the fact he already did it.
Which is cool. Okay. Weird and kinda hypocritical but sure.
Now dawg.... He says the same apology to Dietrich. The. Same. Exact. Apology. And suddenly you believe him? Suddenly you decide ahhh he says the same thing to Dietrich so I guess it must be true guess he wasn't lying to me I should've accepted his apology and understood that it was a moment of weakness where he resorted to his base instincts that were ingrained into him in his past life by his heinous half brother and sadistic wife?
Wow. What changed shawty? I guess Willheim should tell other people what he wishes to tell Reinhardt for her to actually fucking hear him out and spare us all the stupid brain numbing blood boiling useless dragging of this plot and scenes.
This could've focused on both of them healing from years of repeated cycles of abuse, abandonment issues, and manipulation. They could've had problems within the confines of reason that HELPED them grow as characters, not sent their personalities 6 feet under.
*Insert the meme of the cow standing by the beach with the word "Man" written in times new roman right above it*
GOD I READ ALL THAT
and yes I agree, not to mention the rape of 3 days which Bianca was conceived.. was that acceptable? No
Not all the lying he did behind her back either... like that one chapter that said 'if he lies to ur face does he really love you?'
My final view on it is that they're both screwed up and not understandable in our morals and since they both match each others crazy I stopped caring about them I just care about the kids now ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍
If there's anything I'll give Willheim to like him for it's that he's always been consistent. Like yes king be unhinged /consistently/. The man knew what he wanted and worked for it, even if his ways were far from moral and normal. Rein on the other hand is like an oscillating tool going back and forth without actually knowing what she fucking wants. Woman lost her IQ the chapter Michelle died.
So it looks like Wilhelm, but if it's a boy it's bad, and if it's a girl it's okay I'll take care of her and not give her trauma? I see.
Poor Billoi.
Fuck this shit... I never claimed that Wilhelm is a nice man but damn she's a bitch. Idc what y'all come at me with the whole rape thing and how she's a wonderful human being for keeping the pregnancies, she chose to keep the kids then she owns up to that choice. She chose to bring those children to life, so why is it their fault and have to bear the consequences? Tf did Billoi even do? Why did he have to face a cold unloving mother who didn't hesitate to throw him away? When she's perfectly capable of raising the kid, hence Bianca. My god I never hated a female character as much as I hate her.
She's NOT perfectly capable of raising Billoi, that was the story. Did you read? She couldn't raise him because he started to look like his father...
And no, just because someone doesn't want to kill a baby because of the father doesn't mean they need to care for it regardless of their own mental health. That's why adoption is a thing. You're advocating for keeping Billoi with her when she couldn't handle him? She gave him to Dietrich, which would've been the best bet here.
You're completely missing my point but okay. You're saying it's okay for her ro put her mental health first and give billoi away because he started to look like his father. Im sorry but that sounds narcissistic af.
You mention adoption, but it's absurd to use that term here when Reinhard knew Wilhelm is also not capable of raising Billoi and the palace is not a good place to raise him. That he'll be traumatized there more than being cared for, and she still gave him away without any hesitation. I'm not saying she should absolutely love and adore Billoi, but she chose to bring him to this world so she has an obligation to make sure he's well taken care of emotionally, physically, and mentally, even if it's not by her.
She just absolved herself from any responsibility, and that's incredibly selfish.
"You're saying it's okay for her ro put her mental health first and give billoi away because he started to look like his father. Im sorry but that sounds narcissistic af."
Yes, it is okay to give a child to someone who can look after them if you yourself cannot. It is not a good choice to choose to keep a child you can't stand to look at, yes. You can word that as badly as you want, but that's a thing in reality as well. Adoption
"You mention adoption, but it's absurd to use that term here when Reinhard knew Wilhelm is also not capable of raising Billoi and the palace is not a good place to raise him."
I was referring to Dietrich there, obviously... Giving the child to the father isn't "adoption", he's the child's parent too... And if you payed attention you'd see that it was out of Rein's hands since she was ordered to return the imperial blood child to the imperial family
"She just absolved herself from any responsibility, and that's incredibly selfish."
She gave him to someone who would care for him with love because she has trauma. He is a rape child, she is disgusted with the father who tricked her. She gave birth to him because she didn't want to blame him for the father's mistakes, she breast fed him and took care of him for years till she couldn't anymore and then she gave him to a better caretaker because she couldn't take care of him anymore. She was then forced to give him to the imperial family, when he would've been better off with Dietrich. That's the father's fault. The father then ignored him for 5 years and didn't facilitate connecting with his son's new surroundings. He has custody, it's his responsibility to make his son happy now
Once again commenting on this manhwa which I run to its updates against my will (i just wanna know what will happen so bad that I willingly let myself be angered)
But nothing in this manhwa beats my annoyance at the people who hate Alphonso. I understand wavering for Raphael, he's hot and unhinged in a way and has that angsty edgelord persona that's just so delectable, but rooting for whateverhisnamewas redhead bastard? "He's so fun he matches aridane" uhhh I doubt the assholes and redflags and te people who end up being domestic abusers had that aura from the get go otherwise be with them from the start? Unless, well, you're stupid, or a masochist, or both.
That aside, hating Alphonso?? Idk why peoplr keep saying he's boring or he's not doing enough for Ari or a coward, when none of you are taking his position and upbringing into consideration. He's not like the other two, he's not in a position to freely make risky decisions based on desire and beg a little until his parents are convinced. Everything he does has a direct consequence on the throne and nation. Besides that, taking his upbringing into consideration, Alphonso has been raised to not desire anything and not hold on to anything and try his best to avoid his father's wrath because the one to face it later on was his mother. You'd think "haa his mother is dead now he can finally rebel" Joke's on you he has ptsd now that his mother died BECAUSE of him holding on to something he desired for the first time. It's like a proof that he can't do this, yet he still tries because he loves Ariadne. His hands are tied as a prince and future king. Having Ariadne isn't an easy thing and idk why y'all think it is.
Give the man a break, he was raised to not be too frivolous or too enthusiastic or want something or go outside the lanes his father had drawn for them, so i guess he's sorry you think he's boring bec of that. He's slowly breaking free and doing things he never would've imagined doing, for Ariadne. I still root for you, Alphonso, regardless of who you end up with or if you don't. I just want him to actually finally find peace.
Yeeees!! Alphonso, all the way ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
Yassss team Alphonso always!!