Zhenzhu June 1, 2025 11:35 pm

Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying her dominant nature and the dynamics in general, but can I just say that I'll be very disappointed if this continues down that route of just being porn without any positive development? Because I don't think Courtney is actually a good master/dom given how she's not even thinking of Richard in most situations specifically recently and this last chapter, it's more about her and her curiosity and now her venting anger. Like she just thought "isn't he the best subject to vent anger at?" While wondering if she should do a scene this night, and I find it incredibly disappointing to her character development that that's how she thinks instead of actually caring about Richard. They didn't even discuss safewords or limits, she just immediately assumed Richard is gonna take whatever she gives, and it has reached the current train of thought that has her think she can vent her OWN anger and frustrations out on him like a stressball and that he'll probably be happy and enjoy it. Idk if he will, maybe he might, but that mindset for a dom is incredibly unhealthy and dangerous.

    cyno’s bish June 1, 2025 11:41 pm

    tbf I don’t think this story is meant to be a good representation of bdsm; it more wants to show how crazy the fl and ml can be but surely there’s to be romantic development in the future?

    Zhenzhu June 1, 2025 11:55 pm
    tbf I don’t think this story is meant to be a good representation of bdsm; it more wants to show how crazy the fl and ml can be but surely there’s to be romantic development in the future? cyno’s bish

    I suppose so. I wasn't hoping for a good representation, but at least for the author to not go down the abusive/venting anger out on the sub route

Zhenzhu May 24, 2025 2:35 pm

This reminds me, Teach saw Geyongha in the storage room a few chapters ago, where she threatened him not to speak a word about seeing her there, and that she'd kill him if he did.

The father wasn't the only person doing small rebellions in a town with unfair laws that are too harsh for its citizens in favor of the hounds. Each person there is doing something hush hush, and whenever someone's caught, fear is the only drive for them to condemn the traitor to death. If one person sells out someone, they'll all fall like beads on a rosary. This town is scarier than it seems.

I wonder where and who decided on the rules of it, since I doubt Guwon did, and I doubt he's the REAL mastermind, if he's Sisyphus, then he's just the protector and overseer.

Zhenzhu May 11, 2025 10:13 pm

Liking the sides but I will go feral if we're not shown youngchae and yeonji's side story like this is female version of the main couple and I am here for it give me that wuh luh wuh please thank you.

Zhenzhu April 12, 2025 5:13 am

It's okay guys he might just have ocd or be humanphobic :(

Zhenzhu March 23, 2025 9:56 am

Okay I need to arrange my thoughts and theories on this. I just reread it all again to gather proof and find anything of notice so here they are: (they'll be a lot, so scroll past if you don't want lengthy comments TuT)


1) the first thing that caught my attention is the time teach attacked Guwon when he was sleeping, towering over him and holding a knife down his way. According to their positions, it's either Guwon was caught off guard enough to land beneath a weaker and injured person, or he willingly allowed that position for god knows why. But also,,, where did the knife come from? The earlier panels showed how he just arrived to that house, sat on the sofa then fell asleep. Why was there a knife? (My mind keeps providing the thought that Guwon was there with the knife and allowed this as a test but idk. Was he checking if teach would hurt him?)

2)Gunwon's eyes are the same as maggots, silver.

3) Guwon's tattoos are a little odd. Like aside from the blackout sleeves, you can see the neck stitching as well as that same pattern on his ankles. His wrists don't have them, but his arms are littered with stab/slash wounds, and so is his eye. Arguably these are not wounds you get from maggots, they're like walking dolls, they can't handle knives, and those definitely don't look like haphazard wounds from fighting a doll (you think other humans hurt him?). If you also go to the community dinner chapter, the angry girl Gyeongha mentioned how people would cut off maggots' heads to finally stop them from moving.

4) going by 2 and 3, it'd point that Guwon is a maggot, and idk how his limbs were stitched back up to his body if those stitching tattoos are real stitch scars (was he an experiment? Were they trying to figure out maggot mortality and behavior?), but if we believe that theory it'd make sense why he doesn't remember his past, and why he behaves like a child. Which brings us to 5

5) The only people who truly get along with Guwon are the kids. It's said kids can sense someone's bad/good intentions and have good base instincts (and we all know Guwon actually means well, even if he's a maggot. He's not scary because of what he does, but what he is) and perhaps because he also has the mentality of one that they all get along well. Perhaps the rest of the town actually know that Guwon isn't normal, that he's undead, and that's why they're all afraid of him. He never actually did anything warranting fear, he was even kind enough to mc first meeting when he didn't have to be. This explains why he cried like a child when he thought MC feared him, saying "are you afraid of me too?" Which means everyone else is. The reason he only visits mc's house is because mc is the only one who treats him normally enough to "backtalk and challenge him" like how Guwon put it as if he's a normal person worthy of backtalk without fear.

6)I think the sex was a dream. If you notice, mc's pants would suddenly disappear then reappear, which makes no sense. But also I do think he kissed Guwon for real. I don't think Guwon knows innuendos, which was proven in the "wanna touch my muscles?" Scene where he had no idea he was coming onto mc. Idk if he knows what sex is or what it feels like to be touched intimately, if he lost his memory and is treated with fear and avoidance, so he probably doesn't realize what's happening lol. He had no qualms about "mouth to mouth breathing" in early chapters so he might truly not even realize the meaning behind mc's kiss if mc truly kissed him, which is why he brushed it off next day.

Anyway, food for the brain.

    Yayaya March 23, 2025 10:03 am

    That actually made sense

    Gojo's ex March 23, 2025 10:22 am

    What about the first preview when guwon is walking into the building where teach is his footprints go from big to small so he can make his size change. I think he really is an experimental subject cuz he doesn't remember his childhood cuz he didn't have a childhood I think he's just saying he doesn't remember

    Zhenzhu March 23, 2025 10:37 am
    What about the first preview when guwon is walking into the building where teach is his footprints go from big to small so he can make his size change. I think he really is an experimental subject cuz he doesn'... Gojo's ex

    Hmmm.. i think that was just an artistic bit. It wasn't teach's house, i think that was how the stillwater town was founded. He went to the house he now currently lives in. I don't think his size changed because he entered the house as the same size as he is now (the panel where he was at the door with his back to us). That being said I do think he's some sort of experiment based on the narration when he was emerging from the rubbles about how some were just waiting for the world to go upside down. Maybe that was what finally set him free and allowed his emergence. HOWEVER he did emerge in that scene with the tattoos and rings and all his glory, so it's still a bit confusing, unless that was just an artistic metaphor to start an epilogue and not necessarily what it truly was like.

    Hanna Ryu March 23, 2025 11:06 am

    Damn you compiled it nicely! You should check out the Sisyphus story.. Remember Guwon was talking about this rock and protecting the village.... For sure it's connected. In the story of Sisyphus the cunning king is tasked with rolling the rock up the hill in the underworld. But yea I am so excited for the plot(⌒▽⌒)

    Zhenzhu March 23, 2025 11:12 am
    Damn you compiled it nicely! You should check out the Sisyphus story.. Remember Guwon was talking about this rock and protecting the village.... For sure it's connected. In the story of Sisyphus the cunning kin... Hanna Ryu

    Oh I know the story superficially! How he kept rolling the rock up the hill, but every time he was near the peak it'd roll back down so he is bound to repeat this cycle for eternity. I meed to go into a deeper dive to relate points to what's happening here, considering the rock is alr at the peak now. But yess!! Thanks for reminding me!

    Fitz March 23, 2025 11:19 am

    I like these theories and I think Guwon is based on Universal Frankenstein.

Zhenzhu March 12, 2025 6:25 am

I got distracted from my anger at the lack of face reveal at that huge bakery he has. Damn

Zhenzhu March 11, 2025 6:38 pm

The armpit rutting (and sucking in earlier chapters) and sniffing...
Jay has some very interesting kinks

    lena March 11, 2025 8:00 pm

    Jay is a pit kind of man

Zhenzhu March 11, 2025 6:31 pm

Poor Hwol's virgin ears

Zhenzhu March 1, 2025 10:51 pm

Mc, most probably: mark me down as both turned on and super scared

Zhenzhu February 18, 2025 2:23 pm

I read kiss me liar manhwa like two years or so ago and I barely remember it, but looking at the comments where people talk about details like it's a whole universe with interwebbing characters and places and cameos I feel so lost

    Sugarjet February 18, 2025 3:05 pm

    Josh helped the main character in kiss me liar while he was pregnant and on the run by setting him up to stay with a friend and advice on the pregnancy if I remember correctly and chase is Greyson’s brother the guy who hangs around Keith a lot and went to the same college as Keith.

    Zhenzhu February 18, 2025 10:47 pm
    Josh helped the main character in kiss me liar while he was pregnant and on the run by setting him up to stay with a friend and advice on the pregnancy if I remember correctly and chase is Greyson’s brother t... Sugarjet

    Yess no j went to reread but then people pull stuff about their kids and the locations like Boston and California and I'm like damn that's a whole as verse to keep up with

    Sugarjet February 19, 2025 3:40 pm
    Yess no j went to reread but then people pull stuff about their kids and the locations like Boston and California and I'm like damn that's a whole as verse to keep up with Zhenzhu

    lol, I’m the extra’s it shows Keith and Yenwoo’s kid Spencer and he has some friend’s he plays with those are Josh and Chase’s kids. It doesn’t exactly explain it in Kiss Me Liar, hints, but doesn’t explain well. So everyone is excited to realize that when reading this one. I also saw a comment that Greyson has his own story too. Apparently this series has a novel series or something it seems like.

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