Man, to be perfectly honest, I'm glad they are remaining faithful to the novel in this adaptation, but if the Yi City arc takes this long, I shudder to think how many chapters will the Nie MingJue Past arc take. That was my least favorite arc of the entire novel and it's even longer than Yi City!
omg i feel it I think i fell asleep at least 3 times trying to get through the Nie MingJue arc!! I’m estimating maybe at least 15+ chapters for the flashback of mingjue
why? I liked Nie past the most, he is so awesome ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
I just realised that we hadn't even seen Sunshot Campaign. I only realised after I couldn't find a image of manhua Wen Zhuliu. There is so much more left even Burning of Lotus Pier.... Thankfully Yi city is over, this arc always breaks me the most
I liked Yi City because I connected right away with the characters, so the whole flashback didn't really bother me, but the Nie MingJue past arc was a lot for me, because it has literally nothing to do with either Wei Ying or Lan Zhan (beyond it being the you know what in the present), it's 100% crafted to explain the villain's motivations and the resolution of the Sunshot campaign. And I'm completely fine with that, don't get me wrong. Mo Dao Zu Shi's treatment of all its characters, in which not a single one in the cast is flat or underdeveloped, is one of the things I love more about the story, but just thinking about following the arc on a weekly and sometimes monthly schedule already gives me a headache. Nie MingJue is probably the character I am most ambivalent about so it's going to be tough to have to wait out his story, especially when I know that after the Nie MingJue arc is when things between Wei Ying and Lan Zhan really pick up speed.
Dude he is the most fierce, most badass general of all time.....Iowkey one if my more favorite characters
I know right? the most badass general ever! I love him!! ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
hmm hello? he is only the one that was the canter of the whole plot and who they search for all this time and the one who knows where it all started.
actually he much more "conducted" to LZ and WY since they know of him from their friend when they were in school it literally their master (in strength) in away.
Nie MingJue I actually loved the most cause he does not let anyone do any BS behind or in front of him.
the one I didn't care about at all is XY, he can burn in hell and I still won't care about him.
I'm a little confused by your comment. I meant that nie mingjue is one of the fiercest generals and definitely on my list of favorite characters. If you read the novel it delves into his character and background and how upright and honorable and just efn badass he was. Truly an epic man
I have nothing against him as a character whatsoever, and I'm not denying any of the achievements or his qualities as a person. I think what we know of him is really nice and he is my second favorite of the Triad, after Ze Wu Jun. That being said, during his arc is where the bulk of the military and political conflict of the story concentrates (all the development of the Sunshot campaign to its culmination) and Wei Ying and Lan Zhan barely make an appearance at all (I think it's only during a flashback to the events of Phoenix mountain). The story is completely focused on the military action, and on Nie MingJue's interactions with Meng Yao. They are not my cup of tea, and I found them boring, becasue, unlike with Yi City, which had an element of mystery to it, since we didn't truly know what happened, with Nie Ming Jue and Meng Yao, we already know how the story ended, so the flashback feels a little too much like padding. Necessary padding, don't get me wrong, but padding at the end of the day. And it's probably the longest flashback of the story (I don't remember if the burning of Lotus Pier was longer, but I think it wasn't). I'm not complaining about the characters, and the complex relationship between Jin GuanYao and Nie MingJue is something I really like to analyze, because it has as many undertones as Jiang Cheng and Wei Ying's, instead I'm talking about the plot and progression of events during this arc, which I found to be dragging and hard to get through, since there was nothing at stake and no achievable objective or plot hole to fill other than unveiling the villain's (I use this word sparingly because I don't truly consider this particular character as a villain) motivations.
I see, I understand, I mean no matter how invested I am in the story, that flashback did seem to stretch on forever. It felt necessary though to fully explain the depth of Jin GuangYao's ambition and his treachery as well as showcase Nie Mingjue's character as a direct contrast. But honestly after I while my heart was like where's WangXian lol so I feel you. I'm just so amazed at how deep the backstories are and how intricate everything is so even when I go to read the story again, I'll probably read all that military stuff again XD
I agree that the depth and intricacies of the plot is what makes Mo Dao Zu Shi as great as it is. I've yet to find another novel that develops its characters and plot to this degree (I'm struggling because Mo Dao Zu Shi was my first chinese novel and now I'm finding all others inferior in comparison（/TДT)/ ) and truth is, once the whole arc is finished, and I can binge it, it probably won't bother me, but what I feel dread about is the monthly schedule, because while the arc last it will probably span for several months. Several months without WangXian to heal my soul, girl!
(╯°Д °)╯╧╧ to be fair I just finished the entire
novel like cover to cover and literally everything pales in comparison.....like I dont even want to read anything else cuz nothing else can come close....
I binged mdzs novel and i broke on the inside.. the ending with everything revealed bout jiang cheng made me sob so much I’m currently trying to finish her third novel rn (TGCF) and like omg.. im trying not to break on this one too
Hnnnnnngh mdzs ripped my heart out of my chest so many times........that part your talking about just. killed. me. When you finally see truly just how deep WuXians heart is.... ╥_____╥
Tbh. The only flashback scenes that dragged out for me were the ones I've already watched after season 1 of donghua. I actually didn't like Yi City at first since I wasn't sure how to feel about such a long flashback (but it turned out to be my favoure arc in the novel lol). I personally loved the NMJ flashbacks, since it really gives us a proper look on the other characters. You also see how JGY behaves and how he offs people who done him wrong (kicking him down the stairs is a big no-no, NMJ!).
I hope the manhua also does the extras or makes it's own extras like audio drama did
hmm I see where you coming from but I actually...I felt the complete opposite. I felt that the Yi City flashback was the one that drags too much and that has nothing to do with the current plot with the dead body or the dead hand LZ and WY been trying to find and piece together.
so I actually enjoy the long flashbacks on MingJue, cause again even if we know the end result of Mingjue, We still need to understand why and what happened to him cause again the plot is mostly on his shoulders too. his hand was the one that started it all in the first chapter. so it didn't felt like it drag at all to me, it felt perfect, unlike Yi city that really wasn't that connected to the plot and felt like a filler to me.
has much I hate the asshole that massacres a whole clan, he wasn't that important to the main plot in the end of the day or LZ and WY main mission.
Yi city was fairly short so I didnt mind it plus it was an explosion of feelings in my part lol the Nie arc was fascinating but no matter how interesting it did seem to go on forever primarily bc I prolly wasnt as emotionally invested I like Nie a lot but he doesnt pull your heartstrings like A-Qing
Yi city wasn't that "short" it still was long for just flashbacks that have nothing to do with the main couple. and I say this has someone that was crazy on A-qing POV. I really love her but she felt like a filler and in a way it was a too long filler for been a filler.
Nie I was very attached to him cause of what happen to him that isn't fair too, so I was emotional about him too. but it's not about been emotional with him, I just wanted more on him, more and more and his POV felt too short to me. it just wasn't enough, at least on him. you say it drag out, I say it was too short for been so important for the main story unlike Yi city that felt forever withot giving anything to the main plot.
IT'S DIABLO DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man I've been waiting for this forever!!!!!
Ikr! He's a crazy bitch but I love it!! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Totally! I don't know how but he manages to be cute even while having one of the most f*d up mindsets in the universe. (≧∀≦)
It's like watching a particularly awful train wreck. It's so bad it gets on your nerves but it also holds a strange, morbid appeal. Well, at least now it's out of my WTR list ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Sammmmme. It was so creepy, the seme is THAT bad of a yandere, but my yaoi-integrity wouldn’t let me NOT see the manga through.
Oh my god, I was just thinking this! I hated reading it, but I couldn't stop!
Right?!
So fucking accurate! Tf was that!?
Honestly same I was like please say this one is the last chapter
Honestly I'm torn about Ibee's character. On the one hand, I want her to throw everything away and just be with Ale. But on the other hand, I cannot help but understand her current position. With the hindsight of a modern woman, there are so many things sure to get in the way of their relationship:
1- Social position. She IS a maid, and in that time, that is a big deal. Nobles doing drugs or having extra-marital lovers is accepted, but marrying someone from an inferior social class is wildly frowned upon. Ibee's ultimate goal is for Ale to be accepted in society and for him to be happy and not start the rebellion that will ultimately cause his death. A relationship with her will bring inevitable conflict and it won't help with that.
2- Ale's feeling. There is no doubt that there is a degree of imprinting to Ale's affection. Sure, he loves her, but how can she be sure that love is for her alone and it wouldn't be the same for any other person that broke his curse? She has the proof of the novel to contend with: Eleonora broke his curse, Ale fell in love with her. There is a level of uncertainty that nobody can deny, and uncertainty is always a big deterrent in relationships.
3- Ibee's own alienation. I think we've all established that Ibee doesn't feel like an actual person of the world she currently lives in. She still acts as an alien observer, like the things in the world (novel) don't affect her, and while it frustrates me, I cannot say I don't see her point. She doesn't know how or why she came to this world, which means that there's no guarantee that she won't return to her own world tomorrow, or that if she changes the story of the novel too much, something won't happen to her or to Ale. I can totally understand her position of wanting to stay detached. What if she indeed let herself get into a relationship with Ale and she is taken back to her world out of a sudden and has to leave him behind? Or even worse, what if they get together, marry, have kids and one day she has to abandon both Ale and her children and never see them again?
To be perfectly honest I am totally OK with the level of psychological conflict we are seeing in this series. Too many transmigration mangas/manhuas never touch on this issue which I think it's so important. If it were me I'd be paranoid not having any security whatsoever that my current life won't just banish tomorrow.
This was solid.
YES!! THIS!!
This summed up EVERYTHING I've been feeling and so eloquently too. My heart wants them to be together yet my brain wants them to have space and seperation.
A lot of people are mad that she's not just accepting him, but I believe that's half the enjoyment. Yes it's frustrating at times, but I always agree with her reasoning, and if they had an illogical happily ever after without facing difficulties or consiquences this story would be no different from any other shoujo.
Welp, we all knew that's how it was going to go. (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Man, his face in that last panel broke my heart. I knew this had to happen to advance the plot forward but I still feel so bad for him, he is now officially all alone. No father, no mother, no friends, not even comrades, partners or colleagues. Only Ale in that big house, surrounded by people who were terrified of him until a couple of years ago, isolated from anybody that can teach him kindness. I'm afraid he is about to become much more cynical, brutal and cruel, and Ibee will have to bear the brunt of it in the future
All I can say is:
*Insert meme of Giorgio Tsoukalos* ANIME.
Only in anime/manga. Only in anime/manga a concept as bizarre and absurd as this could work. (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
I'm glad Benno features in this part too since I love his interactions with Myne and how he's always so cranky and strict with her (I feel like she needs someone like that who can dot all the i's for her and tell her what's what given that she's pretty much clueless about this new world she lives in and about anything other than books). Since this new arc is about her life at church I was afraid they would scrap him. I hope there's still going to be more merchant stuff too.
Oh, Ibee, girl, you can't leave him now! If these people keep pushing his buttons and you're not there to hold him back he's going to go apesh*t on the lot of them! The glare he gave that princess made me have goosebumps.
This man should be called "Lady Rose is not allowed to be a commoner" (╯°Д °)╯╧╧