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This started so fluffy and puppy love cute, wth with that 1-180???????
Freaking warning needs to be more specific, there's "coercive relationships depiction" and then there's "gang up on a poor person that has been nothing but kind to you and hold him down to a table while you drug and rape him". There, I fix your warning. You're welcome.
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Ok, this might be a hot take here and controversial but I feel the punishment he got didn't really fit the crime? I just started this but I'm a bit bothered by the general attitude towards him. Other than the cleaner incident, do we see other instances of him harming people? Sure, he's a dick, but all he actually did was shove the dude, after being grabbed first. I understand that he's significantly stronger than the average person so that would really hurt the cleaner guy, but MC was literally the number 1 ranked in the world, routinely risking his life in the dungeons. If we take other hunter stories as references, S-classes were often solely responsible for stopping entire dungeon breaks and now this dude who was humanity's first line of defense is gone and that's a good thing? Regardless of his attitude, unless he did some seriously f*ed up shit (aka. Flame Emperor) on the level of killing civilians or r*****ing people, it is completely stupid to kill him and condemn all the people he would have saved. I honestly don't get the reasoning.
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Seems we learn more as we go on karma spots that he could have saved, but didn't, and we see the consequences of his choices where it still plays out the way it had in the first timeline when he was a hunter. Pretty sure it's just karma stacked against him that resulted in the punishment, but we can see that he can fix it and take down the evil organization as we go.
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It's a common path when faced with multiple routes. Just because the path is well traveled that you've decided to take doesn't mean there isn't hidden karma points that can be a benefit for you, a harm in your future, or just nothing if you miss it. It's a nice play into the plot to make the story interesting, so I'm looking forward to how the sticks fall for this story.
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Mo Ran has 3 stages in this story:
Hateful mongrel
Stupid dog
Dumb Puppy.
I keep checking every few weeks how we doing but I forget the hateful mongrel state is rather long. Oh, well, I'll be back for the groveling stupid dog arc. I do enjoy that one.
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I read the novel first. Manhwa is a bit disappointing because they censure a .lot of the spicy scenes. Also, Chu Wanning's descriptions are much more intimidating in the novel so you feel the distance between him and Mo Ran much more keenly than in the manhwa and understand exactly what kind of figure Chu Wanning was in the eyes of young Mo Ran. In the manhwa, Chu Wannings prescience is much more toned down, because they show him with many different expressions and even in chibi version. The last thing, the novel is told from Mo Ran's point of view, much more closely than it happens in the manhwa, and Mo Ran is a supremely unreliable narrator, so his emotional reactions are very childish and visceral most of the time, and there's a point where I really hated him for being so f*cking stupid and cruel. The novel is raw, and even after a couple of years, I don't re read most of the first part (the one we are going through right now), because as I said, novel Mo Ran abuses Chu Wanning horribly and there are many times in which I honestly don't want them to end up together. The only reason I like this novel is because the author was very aware of the fact that Mo Ran was hateful and makes him suffer just as badly for what he did to Chu Wanning, so I enjoyed immensely watching him grovel and beg for forgiveness and pledge his entire life to his shizun, even if he never loved him back.
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I'm not good with spoilers so read at your own risk
SPOILER---
I love a good groveling I must say, and seeing him regret everything he ever did, not only to Shizun but to his uncle and aunt and to Xue Meng as well is very satisfying. Mo Ran's character journey is very much once of repentance and self-punishment, and what I liked particularly is that a lot of trashy characters who come to regret their actions or how they treated their partner, apologize a lot to said partner and try all sorts of redeeming actions, but its usually with the sole objective of winning that partner back after they f*ckd up. Mo Ran is not like that, when he comes to regret his actions and decides to change he does it from a 100% genuine place, because he realizes he let down the people who believed in him (Chu Wanning and his family) and feels like garbage for it. He spends the entire first half of the novel acting like the biggest victim, and oh woe is me, play me the smallest violin on earth, and feeling justified on every action he took in the past. And then when he realizes he was the actual bad guy all along, the actual victimizer he breaks down and its beautiful to see, because he lets go of every single excuse at once. He realizes, oh shit I created my own hell. And when he decides to fix it he goes all out, on everybody, not just with the objective of regaining his partners affection like in other romance stories. He's a better brother to Xue Meng, to the point they become inseparable. He turns into a better friend, a better nephew, a better everything. He fights to become the person Shizun always wanted him to be, just because he doesn't want to let him down again, not because he's expecting anything. Even while having 0 expectation of ever entering a relationship with Chu Wanning that went beyond Master and Student. Even with his past and all the spicy memories, he was 100% committed to being whatever Shizun wanted him to be and be 100% platonic for the rest of his life. He changed because he knew it was the right thing to do, not because it was the way to get his partner back.
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Ah sorry I didnโt read through your whole comment before commenting before since I thought you were one of the people who justify what MC did. IMO MC didnโt suffer enough, he should have been put through exactly what he did to ML and the died by being burned alive. My hate for that motherfucker runs so deep.
How old is this author? I live in fear that they would die and we'll never see the end of this story.